Red-Robbo Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Robbo, just look at the polls, his popularity has always been pretty low and now he is bordering on toxic for the Labour party, Labour voters don't like him, it would appear his party are becoming exasperated, perhaps we should blame Wycombe FC and their financial irregularities?, they haven't been blamed so far. He is just not popular. it happens. As for your 2nd sentence Major and Brown were pretty weird as well and Thatcher apparently was a woman. Sadly John Smith didn't get his chance, Blair was the right man at the right time in the right place (but a ****) but apart from those two, since Harold Wilson Labour have made some dodgy choices IMO. I am aware of the polls, but I was questioning why people think he would be such a disaster? I haven't had a clear answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I am aware of the polls, but I was questioning why people think he would be such a disaster? I haven't had a clear answer. We may never know RR, but although entitled I don't vote and his detractors on here won't make a difference, so cannot be blamed, it looks like the electorate in general don't like him and perhaps the unions have shot the Labour party in the Michael Foot again, as I said earlier David + Ed IMHO would probably have been unbeatable, along the lines of the Kennedy's in the U S of A back in the 60's, but Labour decided on Ed + Harriet and may pay the price, lessons to be learned?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 We may never know RR, but although entitled I don't vote and his detractors on here won't make a difference, so cannot be blamed, it looks like the electorate in general don't like him and perhaps the unions have shot the Labour party in the Michael Foot again, as I said earlier David + Ed IMHO would probably have been unbeatable, along the lines of the Kennedy's in the U S of A back in the 60's, but Labour decided on Ed + Harriet and may pay the price, lessons to be learned?. I don't think so ES. David Miliband - although he was the media's darling - just struck me as a sort of Blair-lite. More composed than his brother for sure, but where was the fire? I, personally, don't want a leader like Blair or Cameron who sucks up to Murdoch. Whoever was selected I'm sure would be subject of a vicious and personal campaign in these months. You hope people might see through the spin eventually. In the same month we had headlines about the Rochester tweet, we have had Theresa May admit that their party's "no ifs, no buts" vow to get migration below 100,000 was being abandoned as they were still stuck at 240,000 a year, Osborne had to admit his austerity programme hadn't touched the deficit, but in fact Britain''s borrowing had trebled partly because tax take has fallen under this government, and N Farage had to hastily say his proposals to privatise the NHS were "not UKIP policy and never would be". So that's clear then. Something he thought 3 years ago was a good idea isn't party policy because ... he said so. Because he IS the party and can just make announcements on the hoof. The penny might drop on the populance eventually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 http://news.sky.com/story/1379694/labour-ahead-in-polls-despite-flag-row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 http://m.burytimes.co.uk/news/11622721.Former_Bury_UKIP_chairman_jailed_for_child_porn_offences/ Ukip eh,don't they advocate hanging for this sort of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 http://news.sky.com/story/1379694/labour-ahead-in-polls-despite-flag-row So looks like Labour will need the SNP then, sweaties and Labour forcing through more anti English laws, Thornberry might have her vision of England realised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 So looks like Labour will need the SNP then, sweaties and Labour forcing through more anti English laws, Thornberry might have her vision of England realised. What is that, pray tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 So looks like Labour will need the SNP then, sweaties and Labour forcing through more anti English laws, Thornberry might have her vision of England realised. Won't effect you though Esmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Won't effect you though Esmond it might, sometime in the very near future Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 it might, sometime in the very near future Bill. You getting deported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 You getting deported Bollox that was a secret, my defence is Hollande 'touched me there, there and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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