redarmy1974 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I think once the compensation amount has been hit,there's nothing much city can do ! Sounds like these lads are not being advised to well ! Parents /agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygram for mongo Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Very disheartening isn't it? Hard to see much point unless we can at least keep the best players long enough to shine in our first team, at which stage they'd go with everyone's best wishes if the club gets a good fee for them. Presuming they're local lads you'd think they'd at least want to make their mark at Ashton Gate, but deciding to stay with City if they get an offer from a Prem. club seems to be very much the exception. Not even just PL clubs either if Davies is going to Fulham. They are both Welsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 You can thank the greedy prem and eppp that's designed to shit on the smaller clubs hence why a number of academy's have folded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm told there has been a problem with Aron Davies & Marley Bishops international clearance.That's why they haven't been involved in any fixtures. P.S. No fault of theirs either?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I think once the compensation amount has been hit,there's nothing much city can do ! Sounds like these lads are not being advised to well ! Parents /agents Fulham and Tottenham are both cat 1 clubs. Actual contact time with a football i.e. training would be double the hours they are getting at Bristol under Cat 2 rules. Players know this and ALL would like to play for a cat 1 team and push themselves to improve and play against the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Southampton, etc. So I don't know about being badly advised is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 So it is about money then if they haven't been offered good contracts . These boys should show some loyalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Believe me not there's. Just to correct you, they've agreed nothing!!So where your getting your info from I don't know. I'm told Bristol City have made no attempt to tie Aron or Marley down on decent contracts and they now feel they must look else where (haven't played a competitive match in 6 months) . Bristol City have had numerous offers for Aron and he waited for Bristol to act they never. That's fine if there not interested in keeping him but its not all down to the player. Also due to the way the academy currently operates George Dowling U16 has told the club he will not sign a scholarship and take his chances at Southampton in summer. Seems to be a lot of players who want out?? Sorry if I sounded a bit pissy but I have been around academy football a long time and I know these 2 lads are very fond of BCFC. All they want to do is play for the club but due to lets say 'reasons beyond there control' they haven't been able to. Missing out on a FA Youth Cup fixture that both players would have made a big difference in. It's not all about money as they sensible lads who just want to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Just fair deals like other players. There not the only ones who are thinking this. Where just talking about them because of interest from other clubs. They then get labelled disloyal. The Fulham offer for Aron the rumour is was part of Matt Smith deal and was excepted by the club before Aron even knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 How come you know so much about them ? Do you work for the club Sounds a case of soon as something better comes along there off !! Same as them lads last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 :laugh:. I don't work for club but I do know a lot that goes on admitted due many contacts.. Both lads would have signed deals but no effort has been made to do that. Loyalty comes from both sides!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 You talk about both lads not being offered deals ! What have they done to be offered good deals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Even by ur own admission they haven't kicked a ball in 6mths and you expect them to get good contracts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Just remember razor city pay there wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Cat 1 clubs have made offers. If Bristol don't want to keep them why shouldn't they go then. There's no lad at the academy who wouldn't want to play at the highest level ,Cat 1 is a step up, You.ve got to except that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Even by ur own admission they haven't kicked a ball in 6mths and you expect them to get good contracts . You are right in what your saying but they haven't played because there not good enough. Both players would be with U21's.Clearence should have been obtained by the club before they got to scholarship age. It wasn't. This is not down to the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Surely they should just knuckle down and work hard and earn a good contract !! This is what the lads who signed pro contracts beginning of the season done !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 This is exactly what there doing and getting noticed by other clubs??? good conversation redarmy1974 but lets just agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm sure we will replace them easy enough !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 There's always somebody else!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Cotterill was singing Marley Bishop's praise a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Must have missed that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Marley is a very good player and highly thought of.I was referring to the point that just because a player what's to improve and test himself at the highest level doesn't make him disloyal. I don't even know if these players have spoken about contracts to Bristol or any other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 so do they really have to move to improve as footballers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 No. They have become good players at Bristol City but everybody wants to play at highest possible level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarmy1974 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I don't understand why you are so hell bent on justifying this by saying all they want to do is improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 :laugh:.I am going on a bit. they can improve at City ,Fulham ,Tottenham , etc. It all comes down to the players committment. If City want to keep them they will ,if not and they feel the offer is to good to turn down, off they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 If the players couldn't play as they didn't get international clearance, why would a move to another club suddenly solve that? Am I therefore understanding they haven't played for 6months and City have let that happen, why would they do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor05153 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 A move to another club wouldn't,t solve it. They would still require clearance. Fifa haven't okayed the clearance for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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