One Team In Keynsham Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Legend is certainly bandied about too often, and too easily, but he has taken us to our 1st title since 1955, bossing the league from the get go, only the 5th in our history, becoming the only team to win the tin-pot cup a 3rd time, and only the 2nd team to win the much-coveted lower league double. He has done enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Does that make him a club legend left foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Cotts is a legend. How many doubles did any other manager achieve? AD is rightfully already a,legend but SC has to be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 He's done enough for you keynsham,but is he a legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 He's done enough for you keynsham,but is he a legend A-, must try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I can't believe this double malarkey,yeh we did it but jeez,so we should of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I tried my best keynsham :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Agree,great double no doubt,but will he do a gj and take us from 1game to the Premier League ,here's hopingLets be honest with GJ we had plenty of scruffy one nil wins and our success was built on team spirit and momentum. This year we have walked the league for the first time in 60 years. Won many games in style and played superb football and this league is much tougher than in 2006. Cotts achievements pisses all over GJ's in my opinion. Promotion last time was earned with an ageing squad which lacked youth. This time we have a young fresh talented squad and I feel with the players ee have we are better equipped for the Championship whrre as last time we had a team of league one players that over achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I can't believe this double malarkey,yeh we did it but jeez,so we should of Comment invalidated by use of "should of." Downgraded from A-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 You said they both are Ashton,winning div 3 or taking us into div 1,legend is spouted to much as you are doing,cotts can't compare with dicks or Johnson at the moment Not belitting Dicks at all - a 'legend' in my book - but I dont like 'he took us in to Div 1 and Cotts won Div 3. The whole landscape of football, professionalism, competitiveness and most importantly technique has advance significantly since then such that its completely incomparable in my opinion. Winning 'Div 3' is much more of an achievement in 2015 than then. Promotion from the Championship for example would be far more remarkable in my eyes than Dicks' achievement' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I can't believe this double malarkey,yeh we did it but jeez,so we should of and the reason we should've (if we should've at all) is Cotts - the team he built, trained, coached and sent out playing his tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Agree 29ar,but he hasn't,yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Lets be honest with GJ we had plenty of scruffy one nil wins and our success was built on team spirit and momentum. This year we have walked the league for the first time in 60 years. Won many games in style and played superb football and this league is much tougher than in 2006. Cotts achievements pisses all over GJ's in my opinion. Promotion last time was earned with an ageing squad which lacked youth. This time we have a young fresh talented squad and I feel with the players ee have we are better equipped for the Championship whrre as last time we had a team of league one players that over achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 So we had a team of league 1 players who over achieved,and why was that,because of gj,but you says cotts pisses all over his achievements,that makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 So we had a team of league 1 players who over achieved,and why was that,because of gj,but you says cotts pisses all over his achievements,that makes no senseYour reasoning that Gj is a Legend but cotts not doesn't make any sense. What did GJ win with us? One promotion that was only secured by 1 or 2 points. Took us to a play off final but that means jack as we lost. When GJ left he left the club in a utter mess. Players on long pricey contracts. Youth wasn't used. Back room staff were all his relitives etc etc. Cotts has won us a league title and a Cup. We have dominated the league since the first game. He has brought in young talented players that have a sell on value and has built strong foundations behind the scene. Gj also had a hell of a lot more money to work with. If Cotts left 2moro I would be confident that this club would continue to progress due to the work Cotts has put in. Gj in the end did lots of damage to this club that only now can we say we have recovered from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I never said gj was a legend,I said Alan dicks was,I was just saying if people think cotts is a legend then so is gj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Well Cotts has won us 2 trophies and GJ won us none so there's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Umm,answer to what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Your reasoning that Gj is a Legend but cotts not doesn't make any sense. What did GJ win with us? One promotion that was only secured by 1 or 2 points. Took us to a play off final but that means jack as we lost. When GJ left he left the club in a utter mess. Players on long pricey contracts. Youth wasn't used. Back room staff were all his relitives etc etc. Cotts has won us a league title and a Cup. We have dominated the league since the first game. He has brought in young talented players that have a sell on value and has built strong foundations behind the scene. Gj also had a hell of a lot more money to work with. If Cotts left 2moro I would be confident that this club would continue to progress due to the work Cotts has put in. Gj in the end did lots of damage to this club that only now can we say we have recovered from. You are largely distinguishing GJ and SC because of the state of the club when GJ left. That's obviously flawed because when SC eventually leaves, notwithstanding if it was today you'd be confident we'd progress, only then can the club's state actually be judged. Of course we could go down the money and crippling contracts route again - some on here think we'll be signing Joe Garner. Also the losing play off final may have meant jack to you, but just as this season shall, that season will live long in my memory and only ever looked back on fondly. It didn't mean jack to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 For FFS of course he's a legend. This has been won of the most incredible and succesful seasons in our history. He also saved us from almost certain Sod death last season. Mind you, next season...... a few losses and it's Cotts Out. That's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Despite our success with GJ the state of rhe club was a mess, It could be said the success covered over the cracks. We threw money at success without thinking of the long term future of the club. It got a bit desperate in the end. SL has already admitted he trusted GJ too much. The club now is in really good shape and I truly believe past lessons have been learned. Still some issues but generally with the 5 pillars in place and an excellent recruitment network headed by Keith Burt long gone are the days of spending 600k+ on players like Peter Styvar. Of course we don't know how things will tuen out with Cotts but I have total trust in the club to stick to the 5 pillars which is a great foundation for success. If Cotts were to leave for whatever reasons those 5 pillars remain in place. The mess we got ourselves In to last time wont be repeated. GJ a car sales man. Cotts a genuine fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I would have loved to have seen what Cotts could have done with players like Noble, Trundle, Sno, Hartley etc. Gj never could manage a talented player where as its clear to see Cotts has improved our talented players this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ferret Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I would have loved to have seen what Cotts could have done with players like Noble, Trundle, Sno, Hartley etc. Gj never could manage a talented player where as its clear to see Cotts has improved our talented players this year. Apart from JET! He's taken a step back this season (sadly imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 If the history books say 2 titles over a 60 year period, surely both managers involved are legendary? Ps. Check how long we've been in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Let's not forget that some people have been calling for a statue of Louis Carey :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Legend is a word bandied around too much these days... If Cotterill can eventually get us promoted to the Premier League, then he will be a club legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Legend is a word bandied around too much these days... If Cotterill can eventually get us promoted to the Premier League, then he will be a club legend. I don't think so. Success is all relative. If Accrington Stanley ever get promoted to League One, for instance, that manager will be rightly worshipped. There have been people on here who have been City fans for 50 years saying this is their best season ever. That makes Cotts a legend in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 How do you define the word 'legend'? Its a bit like 'world class' its such a opinion based phrase its barely worth a discussion! Cotts has done great dont get me wrong and i dont want to piss on anyones corn flakes this morning, BUT its only the third tier (granted it was the title fair shout)and a pretty mickey mouse cup we have won.. As Bristol City especially with our squad, backing from SL and pretty recent escapades (one game away from the big time) does anyone else feel as if we are sounding a tad tin pot? I still live in hope that i will see a BCFC team either get to the top flight OR lift a major trophy (fa or league cup) and for me the gaffer that can bring that to us can be held in the legendary category.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 How do you define the word 'legend'? Its a bit like 'world class' its such a opinion based phrase its barely worth a discussion! Cotts has done great dont get me wrong and i dont want to piss on anyones corn flakes this morning, BUT its only the third tier (granted it was the title fair shout)and a pretty mickey mouse cup we have won.. As Bristol City especially with our squad, backing from SL and pretty recent escapades (one game away from the big time) does anyone else feel as if we are sounding a tad tin pot? I still live in hope that i will see a BCFC team either get to the top flight OR lift a major trophy (fa or league cup) and for me the gaffer that can bring that to us can be held in the legendary category.. I can't answer your tin pot question because it's so opinion based its barely worth a discussion. Sorry, just had to make the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I can't answer your tin pot question because it's so opinion based its barely worth a discussion. Sorry, just had to make the point. It was a rhetorical question kiddo! No need to answer those ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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