TBW Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Those tops look like the cheap shit that people were selling on the way up to Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't really understand the fuss. It clearly shows that it is referencing Bristol as a city with the 'bridge' logo. "We are part of Bristol and we are Bristol City." That is what is says to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I genuinely think the top people at Bristol Sport know this and have no intention of trying to dilute the Bristol City brand. It makes no business sense or otherwise to attempt to alter City's identity. But Bristol City players should be wearing Bristol City training gear / merchandise not just "Bristol". I think this is another error of judgement on their part, unfortuanetly. I hope this is raised with Bristol Sport through the neccessary channels... Having met the top person at Bristol Sport others could easily disagree. There have been other errors of judgement which were easily avoidable. Bristol City is undergoing massive change and of course its identity is going to change, and of course Bristol Sport will be and are altering that identity. Reasoning for not placing Bristol City on the Dolman seats appears to be because it is now a shared stadium. Yes Bristol City now shares what was its home, and is a partner, but a way of better implementing that inevitable change would be for Bristol Sport to better include core support of the FC. Bristol Sport not being Adidas should offer flexibilty, and the opportunity for fan involvement = Improvement instead of easy wins being turned into something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Those tops look like the cheap shit that people were selling on the way up to Wembley. Spot on mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 So long as I finally get a top that says RISTO - I'll forgive them anything. Anyway the training tops that say just Bristol are due to the fact that the players are now all so slim and fit that there's no room for the City bit. Apart from Luke Freeman's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't mind the long sleeve one that Flinty is wearing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartcliffe red Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Having met the top person at Bristol Sport others could easily disagree. There have been other errors of judgement which were easily avoidable. Bristol City is undergoing massive change and of course its identity is going to change, and of course Bristol Sport will be and are altering that identity. Reasoning for not placing Bristol City on the Dolman seats appears to be because it is now a shared stadium. Yes Bristol City now shares what was its home, and is a partner, but a way of better implementing that inevitable change would be for Bristol Sport to better include core support of the FC. Bristol Sport not being Adidas should offer flexibilty, and the opportunity for fan involvement = Improvement instead of easy wins being turned into something differentthis^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Looks like something you'd get at a tacky market stall, but then it's a warm up top so ***** given are precisely zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 "Orders placed will not be dispatched until the arrival of the DVD's in 2 weeks time (Expected arrival date 13th July)" So why put 'despatched ' on my account when it clearly hasn't been? ....thanks for the info by the way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Personally I can't wait for the season starts so we can all worry about what's actually important which is winning matches. Dodgy training kits, Bristol Sport franchise, different shade of seats etc etc is non important. I couldn't give a toss if training tops just say Bristol on, I'm proud to come from Bristol so see absolutely no problem with that being in training tops for both City and the rugby, they are not, and never will, change the club name or drop the City from it, the paranoia of some fans literally blows my mind every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Personally I can't wait for the season starts so we can all worry about what's actually important which is winning matches. Dodgy training kits, Bristol Sport franchise, different shade of seats etc etc is non important. I couldn't give a toss if training tops just say Bristol on, I'm proud to come from Bristol so see absolutely no problem with that being in training tops for both City and the rugby, they are not, and never will, change the club name or drop the City from it, the paranoia of some fans literally blows my mind every time! just winning matches is not all important because if it was many of us would be on the train to London each week instead. dont measure everything by your standards because we are not all the same and its a good job we are not because some of us stick with it through thick and thin because of the not important stuff like the clubs identity, that is the glue that binds some of us together. when you hear the people now running city that it is a brand that and a brand this with barely a mention of it being a club at all many would question what it is they think is the club. Message to BS stop promoting yourselves and concentrate more on Bristol City the club with fans instead of brands and you will get more fans onside than you are. We are not Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 just winning matches is not all important because if it was many of us would be on the train to London each week instead. dont measure everything by your standards because we are not all the same and its a good job we are not because some of us stick with it through thick and thin because of the not important stuff like the clubs identity, that is the glue that binds some of us together. when you hear the people now running city that it is a brand that and a brand this with barely a mention of it being a club at all many would question what it is they think is the club. Message to BS stop promoting yourselves and concentrate more on Bristol City the club with fans instead of brands and you will get more fans onside than you are. We are not Cardiff. You think the clubs lost identity because City wasn't on a training top? It's a complete nonsense! You are paranoid and have nothing better to worry about, personally I believe there is more to life than worrying about trivial made up nonsense, that's my standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 You think the clubs lost identity because City wasn't on a training top? It's a complete nonsense! You are paranoid and have nothing better to worry about, personally I believe there is more to life than worrying about trivial made up nonsense, that's my standard it was not made up. at a meeting the head of bs was told after the umpteenth time of stating brand v club to stop calling Bristol city a brand as to some of us it is more than that. to yourself its just about results. Again if I was a results fan there is better on sky or on a train to london. that is a standard as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Why would you watch sky or get a train to London,Man Utd and Chelsea are brands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Why would you watch sky or get a train to London,Man Utd and Chelsea are brands Bloke says its all about results and everything else is nonsense. chelsea is where the best results are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Having met the top person at Bristol Sport others could easily disagree. There have been other errors of judgement which were easily avoidable. Bristol City is undergoing massive change and of course its identity is going to change, and of course Bristol Sport will be and are altering that identity. Reasoning for not placing Bristol City on the Dolman seats appears to be because it is now a shared stadium. Yes Bristol City now shares what was its home, and is a partner, but a way of better implementing that inevitable change would be for Bristol Sport to better include core support of the FC. Bristol Sport not being Adidas should offer flexibilty, and the opportunity for fan involvement = Improvement instead of easy wins being turned into something different Surely it's simply not practical to put the 'CITY' back in the lower Dolman with all those new vomitories and disabled areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'm a Bristol Sport fan and as a franchise can only see it benefiting all sporting teams that fall under the umbrella. I do however think it is vitally important to keep each teams identity and sticking us all in the same training gear for one example may be money saving but is tacky and lazy in my opinion. It has always irked me when pundits and reporters refer to us as 'Bristol', at the end of the day that IS NOT the name of our great club and just shows disrespect, you would NEVER hear florist being referred to as 'Nottingham' for example. I imagine Interflora would be blooming livid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Surely it's simply not practical to put the 'CITY' back in the lower Dolman with all those new vomitories and disabled areas? A supporter made an enquiry, and that reasoning was not provided. Images provided by BCFC - BS of the Dolman previously include no lettering on the seats. It would be interesting to hear from Bristol Sport if this becomes permanent why it has occurred. This could be linked to the topic in question here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 A supporter made an enquiry, and that reasoning was not provided. Images provided by BCFC - BS of the Dolman previously include no lettering on the seats. It would be interesting to hear from Bristol Sport if this becomes permanent why it has occurred. This could be linked to the topic in question here. I don't know about that but you only have to look at the pictures of the Lower Dolman. Putting back the word 'CITY' with so many of the old seating areas removed simply can't be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't know about that but you only have to look at the pictures of the Lower Dolman. Putting back the word 'CITY' & with so many seating areas removed simply can't be done. Which was not the reasoning provided by Bristol Sport. Images BCFC - BS provided did not feature the word Bristol in the upper tier, and if they had at any point since 2013 why questions would have followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't mind the long sleeve one that Flinty is wearing though. Nobody got that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 The training tops also contain our badge, which does show our clubs name in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I sit quite opposite people actually. I despise the Bristol Sport franchise but quite like the tee shirts and would wear one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 I despise the Bristol Sport franchise but quite like the tee shirts and would wear one. Does that define you as a despicable person then or just a hypocrite? just kidding !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Which was not the reasoning provided by Bristol Sport. Images BCFC - BS provided did not feature the word Bristol in the upper tier, and if they had at any point since 2013 why questions would have followed. OK, my guess is the medium term plan is to replace the Upper Dolman seats with those similar to the SS and Lower Dolman, i.e bigger, more comfortable ones, slightly less per row etc. They may have decided to delay it for this season due to wanting to have as many seats as possible for next season, and of course there's already a temporary capacity reduction due to the top few rows going to the media. I should think there must be a good chance the plan is to replace the seats in the U.Dolman at some stage, maybe even for the 16/17 season, and there will then be no letters anywhere in that stand. Even if they don't/can't replace the seats due to width of steps etc., I'd hope they realise the necessity to replace the white 'BRISTOL' ones, AG is not a Rugby ground after all. To me leaving 'BRISTOL' there on it's own would be totally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Fair analysis there Nogs.. what about the Atyeo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Does that define you as a despicable person then or just a hypocrite? just kidding !! Either / or I guess but honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 just winning matches is not all important because if it was many of us would be on the train to London each week instead. dont measure everything by your standards because we are not all the same and its a good job we are not because some of us stick with it through thick and thin because of the not important stuff like the clubs identity, that is the glue that binds some of us together. when you hear the people now running city that it is a brand that and a brand this with barely a mention of it being a club at all many would question what it is they think is the club. Message to BS stop promoting yourselves and concentrate more on Bristol City the club with fans instead of brands and you will get more fans onside than you are. We are not Cardiff. Here Here. You think the clubs lost identity because City wasn't on a training top? It's a complete nonsense! You are paranoid and have nothing better to worry about, personally I believe there is more to life than worrying about trivial made up nonsense, that's my standard Bristol City have been identified now by Bristol Sport as a brand, which in a way shows the club has lost some of its identity. For the record, I am not a BS supporter.... I am a Bristol City supporter. I have not bought any shirts for a while now and I dont intend to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Fair analysis there Nogs.. what about the Atyeo? My own view is I hope the Atyeo will remain unchanged but be populated entirely by City fans as one of 2 home 'ends' the season after next. The only new lettering I'd like to see is 'EAST END' in the South Stand. It'll be officially known as the SS it seems - the club seem determined on this - for ticketing etc. but due regard should be given to the history of that end and it's place in the hearts of the fans. I'm not saying they should put 'AGGRO' or 'BOVVER BOYS' underneath though. Perhaps just 'EAST END ASHTON GATE'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 OK, my guess is the medium term plan is to replace the Upper Dolman seats with those similar to the SS and Lower Dolman, i.e bigger, more comfortable ones, slightly less per row etc. They may have decided to delay it for this season due to wanting to have as many seats as possible for next season, and of course there's already a temporary capacity reduction due to the top few rows going to the media. I should think there must be a good chance the plan is to replace the seats in the U.Dolman at some stage, maybe even for the 16/17 season, and there will then be no letters anywhere in that stand. Even if they don't/can't replace the seats due to width of steps etc., I'd hope they realise the necessity to replace the white 'BRISTOL' ones, AG is not a Rugby ground after all. To me leaving 'BRISTOL' there on it's own would be totally unacceptable. Bristol Sport have stated there are no plans to change the upper seating in the Dolman stand with comfier etc. Those who have met Bristol Sport and attended consultations could have a differing view to yours e.g. Ashton Gate is now a shared facility and is also a rugby ground. The rugby club have been described as equal partners sitting alongside BCFC in a framework of sporting bodies. The above could provide reasoning for Bristol being on the seats. That is "could" , not an is. Hopefully not, they will be changed quickly .. It will look poor and clumsy. Clear statements on branding strategy/ marketing, imagery, bigger pictures etc clear this up and allow no conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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