numbeast Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 And in paragraphs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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numbeast Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Oooooooooops Sorry I thought this was football chat. Didn't know it was the English teacher forum. Silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Oooooooooops Sorry I thought this was football chat. Didn't know it was the English teacher forum. Silly me. It just makes it a bit easier to read, I'm much more inclined to read something broken up than a block of text! I think you make a good point though, hopefully it's beginning to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 We need both proven Championship players and continental (and non-league) bargains. Kodjia will hopefully be a success in time but he's quite clearly not up to speed with his team mates or the league yet. That's perfectly understandable and it doesn't mean he won't be a success. However, at the moment we're pretty reliant on him because Agard isn't fit and Wilbraham is old. Getting someone in now who can immediately score goals in the Championship could be the difference between success and failure this season. When we're more settled at this level then I agree we should be looking for more good value signings from abroad and from non-league. Even with the best scouting in the world they're going to be a gamble, though, and we need to be in a position where we can afford to make a gamble without risking the team's place in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Oooooooooops Sorry I thought this was football chat. Didn't know it was the English teacher forum. Silly me. You don't want people to read your post? A lot of people won't read a chunk of text like that. Just making it more readable. No need to be a dick about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Doesn't our continental scouting team consist of a nutty Swede? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 There are some tools on this forum. Deary me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I've said similar before, not about the grammar police. Alex McLeish spoke very interestingly on talksport some time ago. He mentioned what good young players he'd come across during his time in Belgium. People should be queuing up to pick his brains, the other thing I think we miss out on is team links. The long running debate about Willem II, is a case in point. We have other supporters going to and from teams like Royal Antwerp and Dortmond. If friendly links could be forged then their scouting set up's could be used to our advantage, and vice versa. It would negate the need for an actual scouting set up. This may be a complete non starter in real terms, but could work in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 The Club needs to invest heavily in a world scouting network ( not necessarily financially ) and also better scouting in this country. Listen to people who know about lower league football. Be open minded. Also keep developing the Academy...it imho, is the only way forward. With even more investment in the Prem, that money will filtrate down into the Championship....creating an even bigger inbalance to the true value of players. Players of the same ability as those in the Championship, play in other leagues, and are a small percentage of the cost of those in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 You don't want people to read your post? A lot of people won't read a chunk of text like that. Just making it more readable. No need to be a dick about it I'm sorry you think I'm acting that way, it wasn't intentional. But when the first reply is "and in paragraphs" without explanation or indeed any reference to the content of the post it does lead to ambiguity. Then you took the trouble to re-format the post I was not sure if that had been done sarcastically or to highlight my mistake on clarity. Had it been pointed out that it was difficult for some people to read then I would have understood the reasoning and attempted to rectify the post. I hope this has cleared the matter up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm sorry you think I'm acting that way, it wasn't intentional. But when the first reply is "and in paragraphs" without explanation or indeed any reference to the content of the post it does lead to ambiguity. Then you took the trouble to re-format the post I was not sure if that had been done sarcastically or to highlight my mistake on clarity. Had it been pointed out that it was difficult for some people to read then I would have understood the reasoning and attempted to rectify the post. I hope this has cleared the matter up. In paragraphs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm sorry you think I'm acting that way, it wasn't intentional. But when the first reply is "and in paragraphs" without explanation or indeed any reference to the content of the post it does lead to ambiguity. Then you took the trouble to re-format the post I was not sure if that had been done sarcastically or to highlight my mistake on clarity. Had it been pointed out that it was difficult for some people to read then I would have understood the reasoning and attempted to rectify the post. I hope this has cleared the matter up. Don't take it personally. If there is any ambiguity on this forum I take it lightheartedly and assume the best or else I'd end up thinking everyone was a complete douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 13, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Don't take it personally. If there is any ambiguity on this forum I take it lightheartedly and assume the best or else I'd end up thinking everyone was a complete douche. My experience is that generally you all are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 You need a first class diplomat with links to Mi6 if you want to be scouting overseas, and a lot of money to grease the cogs as it were. To get 'in' with clubs across the continent and beyond is practically impossible, all the best clubs that have the best player have a tonne of scouts and agents and fathers and businesses who all want paying first, just to get a shot at talking to them, that's why agents are a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 For instance, If you turn up to a youth game in Italy, Palermo say, and start trying to tap up the talent well you better be able to run very fast, have SAS training, have a lot of money to pay off the mafia, or just take your beating like a man. And try that in South or central America, you could wind up dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Can't we just use championship manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eric04 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Cotts alluded to setting up a European scouting system last week - towards the end of this feature. http://bbc.in/1Tbkf6C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Interesting to note, that Stoke (a team we could emulate) just singed Swiss fella (can't spell his name) for club record 12m Can he yodel as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Continental?.......Prefer a full English myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I've thought this for a long time. I think quality players in the Danish league and other leagues in Scandinavia and maybe Eastern European countries, would be good enough for the chamionship. Depending on which type of player is bought. I think generally the smaller, technical player struggles to adapt most. But someone with pace and power would surely more likely adapt to the style in this country. That's why I think kodjia will do well. And then there is the African market. Of course all this costs money, but I believe would save the club money in the long run. Buying gayle would be a great signing, but unless we invest millions on a few more signings, then gayle on his own would be the wrong option. We need a depth of good players rather than one quality player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Scouting as we know it traditionally, has changed in many ways. Many Clubs buy into companies that provide player analysis and details. Now emerging as a key component to a teams player scouting, objective performance data can provide valuable insights to a players ability to compliment traditional scouting. By understanding every facet of a players technical qualities these companies aim to ultimately lower the risk in player acquisition. They allow Clubs to explore and compare player database . Many players in many leagues are covered and can be compared with your own clubs players or other targets . It's possible to define which statistics are important to you per playing position and create customised player profile. Users can then easily unearth which players in various leagues fit with the objective technical qualities you are looking for. Therefore it is possible to create a detailed profile of every player before sending a scout to carry out the final subjective assessment. Basically, you employ analysts to understand this data....the manager and football director gives the info to the analyst as to the type of player they want for the team. The analyst looks at all the data....gives his findings back, and then they send a Scout out to watch. This is how many Clubs work....Southampton do this right down to the age of 4. It's that detailed. It doesn't have to cost a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 At the last meeting of European Scouts in June, Bristol City wasnt mentioned once so personally I think it could be a bad idea. However if the club wanted a resident scout in the South of France or Spain I could dig out my woggle and move down there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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