Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Obviously a red, but do worry who will replace him. We were weak in midfield against wednesday, and now we are missing our best player. Robinson will slot in nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wilbraham should have been sent off too for his elbow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 No it wasn't, he was looking at the ball and the geezer came from his left....yellow card all day long....truth is, the stumpy little ref was a total ***** all game!!!!! Absolutely agree 100% Freeman had only eyes for the ball. The defender attacked the ball from Freemans left (and slightly behind) and 'stooped' towards the ball. At worst it's a yellow. No intent whatsoever; except to win the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Never a red. A yellow at most. Agree with all comments regarding him watching the flight of the ball and wanting to trap it. No malicious intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Any got any stats for the previous games Keith Stroud has reffed for us? For some reason his name stands out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wilbraham should have been sent off too for his elbow! He took an elbow right between the shoulder blades before that. If you send of AW for his elbow, you have to do the same for their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 My first reaction was that it would be a yellow card - he had his eyes on the ball and the Brentford player seemed to be on his blind side. I was surprised to see the red. Haven't seen any replays yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 No it wasn't, he was looking at the ball and the geezer came from his left....yellow card all day long....truth is, the stumpy little ref was a total ***** all game!!!!! Where he's looking isn't relevant. It looked an obvious red to me because it was excessive force and dangerous. Intent isn't part of the criteria for serious foul play. It was a shame and ruined an entertaining game but it was a bloody stupid challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Absolutely agree 100% Freeman had only eyes for the ball. The defender attacked the ball from Freemans left (and slightly behind) and 'stooped' towards the ball. At worst it's a yellow. No intent whatsoever; except to win the ball No intent to harm the player does not excuse any action! You could make a two footed challenge with the sole intention to win the ball, but it's still dangerous play and against the rules. If you raise your foot you are taking a chance of an incident such as this occurring, accidentally or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Robinson will slot in nicely. I agree Tom. Looked very composed in an over run midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Sc said lino said not a red.....then ref comes over to ask opinion coz all our team is telling him to ask the lino..and shock horror he says red to him...either way i think wilbs was lucky a little later...that appeared to be a bit nawty .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 No intent to harm the player does not excuse any action! You could make a two footed challenge with the sole intention to win the ball, but it's still dangerous play and against the rules. If you raise your foot you are taking a chance of an incident such as this occurring, accidentally or otherwise. Maybe Chippenham but I have to disagree on this instance. The foot was high, yes, not doubting that but the player also stooped his head and attacked the ball. From my angle Freeman got there first and the incident looked worse as the defender got there second, this resulted in the defender colliding with the foot of Freeman. No excessive force whatsoever so you can't compare to a two footed challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wilbraham should have been sent off too for his elbow! The bloke had been trying to pull his shirt off all game. He should've been booked for it. Wilbs was trying to break free from this when Tarkowski discovered it isn't a great idea to try and climb on the back of a taller player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 No intent to harm the player does not excuse any action! You could make a two footed challenge with the sole intention to win the ball, but it's still dangerous play and against the rules. If you raise your foot you are taking a chance of an incident such as this occurring, accidentally or otherwise. Maybe Chippenham but I have to disagree on this instance. The foot was high, yes, not doubting that but the player also stooped his head and attacked the ball. From my angle Freeman got there first and the incident looked worse as the defender got there second, this resulted in the defender colliding with the foot of Freeman. No excessive force whatsoever so you can't compare to a two footed challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Never a red card, Harlee Dean played for it, Freeman probably shouldn't have had his foot up but it wasn't a red CB knew what was coming and threw himself in, got straight up afterwards as mentioned McCormack could have gone himself, on a booking and carried on giving anyone and everyone a kicking - as well as bringing Kodjia down as last man in the second half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The bloke had been trying to pull his shirt off all game. He should've been booked for it. That maybe be so but it was horrible and could quite easily have been a red. With such a small squad, we can't afford for people to be swinging elbows etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 He asked a question of the ref. That was stupid. Think he needs to chalk this one down to a bit of experience and get training on sticking his head in on situations like that. Personally, I can appreciate why the ref did it and I think it's one of those borderline calls, you can make a case for either outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The bloke had been trying to pull his shirt off all game. He should've been booked for it. Wilbs was trying to break free from this when Tarkowski discovered it isn't a great idea to try and climb on the back of a taller player. This, and also I like your assesment of the situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wilbraham gets a constant beating. His elbow may have strayed a bit but that's on the ref to see and wouldn't get that far if the red would protect him a bit. Not let him get elbows and climbed and grabbed on for 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Never a red card, Harlee Dean played for it, Freeman probably shouldn't have had his foot up but it wasn't a red CB knew what was coming and threw himself in, got straight up afterwards as mentioned McCormack could have gone himself, on a booking and carried on giving anyone and everyone a kicking - as well as bringing Kodjia down as last man in the second half You think it's ******* UFC? Idiot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Looked like Tarkowski caught a Wilbraham elbow. It was a little chippy but thought it was a good game of football. Well a Brentford player gave him a forearm smash in the face to even it up later, so honours even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 And Wilbraham was lucky to stay on after a blatent elbow not long after. Ref never saw that. rubbish the guy threw himself in the way of wilbs arm as he powered away from the tackle imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 You think it's ******* UFC? Idiot!! If a player ducks their head into another players boot, then they are the idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Maybe Chippenham but I have to disagree on this instance. The foot was high, yes, not doubting that but the player also stooped his head and attacked the ball. From my angle Freeman got there first and the incident looked worse as the defender got there second, this resulted in the defender colliding with the foot of Freeman. No excessive force whatsoever so you can't compare to a two footed challenge Fair enough. I actually agree with you that this isn't as bad as a two footed challenge, I was just using that to demonstrate the principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wilbraham also got punched at the corner he scored from. Right in the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 That maybe be so but it was horrible and could quite easily have been a red. With such a small squad, we can't afford for people to be swinging elbows etc. I think if the squirt of a ref had given a card for the all-in wrestling the situation could have been avoided. I chose to believe that the contact on that occasion was accidental. If the ref had thought it was deliberate he would, as you say, have walked. With Luke F, I don't think there were many complaints. Accidental, but dangerous play. Quite what the faffing about, talking to the lino, over-ruling the lino and taking 6 minutes to make his mind up was about, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 At least we have JET to fill in for Freeman's band...oh wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 At least we have JET to fill in for Freeman's band...oh wait! JET never worked in midfield IMO. Last season, we would've played Elliott further forward than usual in this situation. Now..... gulp... it's anyone's guess what'll happen. Not looking forward to Leeds or Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 You think it's ******* UFC? Idiot!! I'll give this a like for the humour (not sure about the idiot bit though) - not quite UFC, the difference between this and the Valencia incident is that Freeman could see where his leg was going, from how I remember it. From behind the goal I thought Dean made quite an effort to get his head in there, a risk yes but if it was Ayling/Williams there are those that would say they took one for the team. Won't labour the point - I get that I am very much on one side of this debate, you are on the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Where he's looking isn't relevant. It looked an obvious red to me because it was excessive force and dangerous. Intent isn't part of the criteria for serious foul play. It was a shame and ruined an entertaining game but it was a bloody stupid challenge.[/quote Still a yellow card, and the tiny ref had to go and consult his linesman who was even further away from the incident than he was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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