Selred Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 We are unlikely to appeal according to Cotts. Don't agree with this. Time for Robinson or Reid to show what they can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 If you look on the replay I think people's opinions will change, it looks worse on the replay and you can see the defender hasn't ducked. Freemans foot is just massively high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Still a yellow card, and the tiny ref had to go and consult his linesman who was even further away from the incident than he was! The ref was an idiot and I don't know how he arrived at this decision but when you jump off the ground and raise your boot so high it connects with someone's face it's a red card for serious foul play and there's no debating that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The word reckless comes in here nowadays - and sadly that equals red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 3 game ban. Dang. I thought it was only one unless it was violent conduct. Massive blow going into three tough games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 JET never worked in midfield IMO. Last season, we would've played Elliott further forward than usual in this situation. Now..... gulp... it's anyone's guess what'll happen. Not looking forward to Leeds or Boro. At least we have JET to fill in for Freeman's band...oh wait! I disagree RR, JET can work well in midfield IF Freeman isn't in the side. This would've been a perfect chance for a player like JET to come in, like for like. It is imperative in the long term that we secure quality competition for this role in the squad. As for who we play in the CAM role, Bobby Reid won't be strong enough and Wes Burns doesn't have the natural attributes for it in my opinion. I'd like to see Elliot tempted out of retirement, even if just for the duration of LF's suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yellow for me. All these people saying that it was reckless. How can it be reckless if you don't even know the guy is coming in from the side. I have watched enough football to know that if the Brentford players and bench for that matter thought it was a real shocker there would have been a mass brawl on the pitch. Mr Stroud should be street wise enough by now to recognise but unfortunately for the game of football he is getting worse as the seasons go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The ref was an idiot and I don't know how he arrived at this decision but when you jump off the ground and raise your boot so high it connects with someone's face it's a red card for serious foul play and there's no debating that really. Still a yellow though innit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Clear red card. Thought so from seat. Robinson will come in as decent replacment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Whether it was a red or a yellow it was a daft challenge that gave the ref (and his lino) a decision to make. Cost us 3 points imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yellow for me. All these people saying that it was reckless. How can it be reckless if you don't even know the guy is coming in from the side. I have watched enough football to know that if the Brentford players and bench for that matter thought it was a real shocker there would have been a mass brawl on the pitch. Mr Stroud should be street wise enough by now to recognise but unfortunately for the game of football he is getting worse as the seasons go on. Having watched again on sky I'm pretty sure you could see freeman glancing across before his challenge, so he pretty much knew the Brentford player was coming. No excuses I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yellow for me. All these people saying that it was reckless. How can it be reckless if you don't even know the guy is coming in from the side. Think you need to look up the word reckless Gillies - a few years back it was deliberate or accidental / not now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't think there'd have been too many surprised (me included) if the ref had pulled out a red as soon as it happened. Deliberate or not, it was definitely reckless, and definitely too high to be kicking the ball. It was the long delay (during which I was sure I saw a yellow), the crowding of the ref etc and then a red after what seemed like an age. I agree with those disappointed by Freeman - both At Wednesday last week and today - totally anonymous for me (and I too thought it was Ayling's run for the goal). But, equally true, we have no-one to replace him on the bench. Same problem last week when Joe Bryan went off, and we had to rearrange the formation and play players out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 He has a glance at the defender and jumps head height. The defender doesn't duck or anything. Freeman knows he's messed up from his reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 3 match ban; so that is Leeds, Boro and Burnley. Really, REALLY hope we've a plan on what to do in this situation, as last season pretty much everything flowed through the lad. Time for Robinson to step up (or anyone else, tbh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 A shame because it would have been good for him and Kodjia to get some gametime. I wouldn't be surprised to see a CM come in - loan or perm - or Reid (is he fit?) and Cotts go 4-3-3 for Leeds and go for the win. 3 points would take the edge off two very tough games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Absolutely agree 100% Freeman had only eyes for the ball. The defender attacked the ball from Freemans left (and slightly behind) and 'stooped' towards the ball. At worst it's a yellow. No intent whatsoever; except to win the ball Yes he was only looking at the ball, but so was the Brentford defender who was just going for a regulation header. Unfortunately you can't challenge a 6ft defender ( going for a header) with a karate kick style straight leg!! We all know Freeman didn't mean to do it, but it was 100% reckless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Bit worrying, but we just have to deal with it. My opinion is that Freeman turned out to be a key player last season, but he did have a slow start. He frequently was subbed around 60 minutes, maybe as he was adjusting to a new position, but he maybe a slow starter ? He didn't look like the player we all admire today, far from it. Now we are without him for 3 matches, 3 matches less match fit. We need Luke Freeman back and getting out midfield ticking over. But as I said we will just have to deal with it. In the meantime I hope we can find some form to boost confidence. Not easy to attract if players are looking at our current form only, and we don't want to have to make up too much ground before long. Overall performances have been good I believe but worryingly teams are scoring so easily against us and confidence can be a fickle thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 It wouldn't ever be overturned as a risk like that would never be 'endorsed' nor would you go against the ref for having made that call. I think by letter if the law without intent it should actually be a yellow, though I could be wrong. I don't mind ref's having discretion though if it's totally reckless, which this was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Crap,isn't it. Inadvertent dangerous play - a red card and 3 game ban. Cheating/diving - a paltry yellow card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 And Wilbraham was lucky to stay on after a blatent elbow not long after. Ref never saw that.Right in front of the linesman, who I reckoned bottled giving his second sending off decision of the match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 The referee clearly got his yellow card out of his pocket, so it was obviously not a clear red card to him. As I said elsewhere, I think that as the player stayed down so long, he though it was serious injury, and went to see speak to his linesman as an excuse to change his mind. SC said the linesman told him it was a yellow card offence. I think an appeal is worth a shot as the referee obviously changed his mind once, and he would have to explain why he got his yellow card out. Why was Jerome not sent off last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt87 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 From atyeo looked like James Tarkowski got a elbow in face from wilbraham and Harlee Dean got a double knee in the face by freeman. Neither looked deliberate. Watching league 1 now to see how bad it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmers Green Red Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Well that looked much worse than it did at the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Freemans was defo a red card having seen it again, unintentional but wreckless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Just seen it as I missed it at game. Clear red not even up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 If the player hadn't looked like he was about to be stretchered off to hospital. He was going to give a yellow. Then as he lay there looking bad he changed it to a red. Then the player recovered and played on...........really the ref should have called Freeman back at that point [emoji3] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Crikey, that looks even worse seeing it back on TV! He clearly has a look and knows the Brentford player is there and why he has jumped in like its absolutely ridiculous! Not saying he deliberately went into hurt him but god knows what was going through his head. Sorry Luke, love you as much as the next person but you have cost us big time today with that moment of madness. Also that clip from Cotts has made him look a right idiot. Apparently the Brentford player didn't need to go to head the ball. What absolute nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't remember seeing a team so effected by a red card. Often when it happens against us you barely notice. We went from playing like Barcelona to playing like Brislington. This must mean Freeman is incredibly important to us or SC had no plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 We are awful at playing 10 men but poor with 10 too - so frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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