havanatopia Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Middlesbrough; hard to believe it has a population of 175,000 with over 376,000 in the Teeside area taking in Redcar. Even more hard to believe that in 1820 there were fewer than 40 souls in the place. Then came the tracks, then came the trains carrying their dirty ole' coal, then came the churches and then came the port. And then came the people and by 1840 it was 5,000 and then came the blast furnaces and it never looked back..streets, gas lamps and trams, it was a dandy place for the industrial working class with the dance halls and walks of a weekend on Roseberry Topping. What a wonderful name for a hill, sounds like dessert is about to be served. But then the coal shut down and Middlesborough became a shadow of its former self, a Salford of the North East and a post industrial Teeside was not a particularly nice place to be. Those years have passed and there exists today a slightly better and regenerated Teeside. Interesting to note though that the population has actually fallen by 20,000 in the last 20 years. It's a common tale of urban decay: unemployment is still high and often long-term; much of the workforce is employed in vulnerable sectors; educational achievement and life expectancy are low; and more than two thirds of council wards are classed as deprived. However its not all bad; what Middlesbrough really has going for it is not a snazzy town centre, but an industrial heritage that has produced a technology and skills base that continues to attract investment. And like most of Britain its a fine ole' landscape outside these industrial heartlands. Roseberry Topping being one that features strongly in the identity of the Teeside people and has been a place of pilgrimage for centuries. At just over a thousand feet high you have panoramic views of the Vale of Cleveland to distant towns of the Tees Valley. Its grand from up there.. George Tweddle wrote that he had sat on the Topping with many a Bard... and where the loved landscape here unfurled to view, where the picture is ever new, the watchet ocean, we may roam far and wide before we see a finer sight than here from Rosebury. he wrote that in 1870. The view from there today toward the ocean would of course take in the Riverside Stadium. One of the first to be built following the Taylor Report. Long gone is Ayresome Park in the middle of town where I visited many years ago; a decrepit ground if ever there was one but loved by all those Teesiders I will wager. One lower position than City is the highest Boro have ever finished; 3rd in 1915. Only 2 seasons have been spent outside the top two divisions mind, quite a record. In 1986 they almost folded and from whence Steve Gibson and his consortium came along and the rest, is history. Relegated in 1997 for failing to fulfill a fixture against Blackburn they bounced back the following season and spent 11 years in the top flight before succumbing again to relegation in 2009 where they remain of course. Although they did win the League Cup in 2004 their only major trophy. After a poor run of 2 wins in 12 Tony Mowbray left the club ushering in a new 'Spanish' era with Aitor Karanka de la Hoz being appointed in 2013. Previously assistant to Jose M at Real he comes with some relative pedigree and not a little expectation. Last season was a near miss for Boro so lets see if his close season signings will take them a step closer this term. Today they must get past City! I think our resolve will have been greatly assisted by our come back on Tuesday night against a rather petulant Leeds side. Yet the niggling failure to bolster our squad perhaps will play on the minds of all. I still feel we have enough in the locker to avoid defeat today and we may even come away with a surprise win. 1-1 or 0-1 to City. I am allowed two choices! UTC Edited August 22, 2015 by havanatopia 14 Quote Link to comment
citywest30 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 A good morning read. Keep em coming. And I'm with you, or at least one of your options 1-1. Tho that's my heart speaking so if you're saying 2 is ok then I'll go for what my head says too - 3-1 to them. Hopefully heart prevails. Quote Link to comment
Shtanley Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Anyone know if Slovenian radio is covering it? I'm here and not too hopeful of being able to catch the action... Quote Link to comment
BigTone Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Middlesbrough; hard to believe it has a population of 175,000 with over 376,000 in the Teeside area taking in Redcar. Even more hard to believe that in 1820 there were fewer than 40 souls in the place. Then came the tracks, then came the trains carrying their dirty ole' coal, then came the churches and then came the port. And then came the people and by 1840 it was 5,000 and then came the blast furnaces and it never looked back..streets, gas lamps and trams, it was a dandy place for the industrial working class with the dance halls and walks of a weekend on Roseberry Topping. What a wonderful name for a hill, sounds like dessert is about to be served. But then the coal shut down and Middlesborough became a shadow of its former self, a Salford of the North East and a post industrial Teeside was not a particularly nice place to be. Those years have passed and there exists today a slightly better and regenerated Teeside. Interesting to note though that the population has actually fallen by 20,000 in the last 20 years. It's a common tale of urban decay: unemployment is still high and often long-term; much of the workforce is employed in vulnerable sectors; educational achievement and life expectancy are low; and more than two thirds of council wards are classed as deprived. However its not all bad; what Middlesbrough really has going for it is not a snazzy town centre, but an industrial heritage that has produced a technology and skills base that continues to attract investment. And like most of Britain its a fine ole' landscape outside these industrial heartlands. Roseberry Topping being one that features strongly in the identity of the Teeside people and has been a place of pilgrimage for centuries. At just over a thousand feet high you have panoramic views of the Vale of Cleveland to distant towns of the Tees Valley. Its grand from up there.. George Tweddle wrote that he had sat on the Topping with many a Bard... and where the loved landscape here unfurled to view, where the picture is ever new, the watchet ocean, we may roam far and wide before we see a finer sight than here from Rosebury. he wrote that in 1870. The view from there today toward the ocean would of course take in the Riverside Stadium. One of the first to be built following the Taylor Report. Long gone is Ayresome Park in the middle of town where I visited many years ago; a decrepit ground if ever there was one but loved by all those Teesiders I will wager. One lower position than City is the highest Boro have ever finished; 3rd in 1915. Only 2 seasons have been spent outside the top two divisions mind, quite a record. In 1986 they almost folded and from whence Steve Gibson and his consortium came along and the rest, is history. Relegated in 1997 for failing to fulfill a fixture against Blackburn they bounced back the following season and spent 11 years in the top flight before succumbing again to relegation in 2009 where they remain of course. Although they did win the League Cup in 2004 their only major trophy. After a poor run of 2 wins in 12 Tony Mowbray left the club ushering in a new 'Spanish' era with Aitor Karanka de la Hoz being appointed in 2013. Previously assistant to Jose M at Real he comes with some relative pedigree and not a little expectation. Last season was a near miss for Boro so lets see if his close season signings will take them a step closer this term. Today they must get past City! I think our resolve will have been greatly assisted by our come back on Tuesday night against a rather petulant Leeds side. Yet the niggling failure to bolster our squad perhaps will play on the minds of all. I still feel we have enough in the locker to avoid defeat today and we may even come away with a surprise win. 1-1 or 0-1 to City. I am allowed two choices! UTCCondensed Version:MIDDLESBROUGHCold shithole in NE 6 Quote Link to comment
Fordy62 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I have a problem. I'm at a wedding at 12 and after there ceremony there's a 90 minute free drinks window. I'm not sure what sort of state I'll be in come 3pm... But we'll see. Middlesbrough are the big boys of this league and honestly I'd be happy for us to come out of it having given a good account of ourselves. There aren't many teams who will take points off Boro at home this season. Safe journey to all those travelling up, please give AA the reception he deserves. I think we'll lose. 3-1. Quote Link to comment
mikep Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 As usual, an extremely interesting read from Havanatopia. Really appreciate the work put in on these. Think I will go for a 1-1 draw on a glorious sunny day. 1 Quote Link to comment
Cotham Brow Red Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Havanatopia I really do love your thread openings. Fair play to you bit of research done there. Love the fact you mention Roseberry Topping been up that Bugger a few times. Anyway....er were probably gonna lose...but gritty draw 1-1 and my Saturday evening cider will go down sweet. A win and I might even have a kebab Edited August 22, 2015 by Cotham Brow Red 1 Quote Link to comment
RedYoshi Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hoping we win. Predicted we'll draw. Expecting a loss. Now watch it get called off, just to spite me. 1 Quote Link to comment
Fordy62 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Have they still got that little Brazilian lad playing in midfield for them? Quote Link to comment
chipdawg Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 My wife's family are from Teeside, unfortunately I'm going on holiday today, otherwise I'd have insisted we visit them this weekend for the first time ever :-( luckily they're more into rugby so the grief will be minimal at the next family gathering if we lose As has been pointed out, Middlesborough is an utter toilet, but the surrounding towns and countryside are actually quite nice. WE SHOULD BURN IT ALL THE GROUND AS WE PILLAGE 3 POINTS FROM THE 'SMOGGIES'! We seem to have got better with each game this far, but this seems to be a step up again. If we play our best, i.e. sort out the defence, I think we can cause them problems. Realistically I think it'll be 3-1 or 2-0 to the 'Boro Please keep me updated, I'll be in Kent en route a France at kick off. Bon voyage, tout bien vacance and all that Quote Link to comment
tandy Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Havanatopia, What a great read.... Keep up the sterling effort 2 Quote Link to comment
RED4LIFE Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Great work havanatopia as per usual. Would've loved to have gone to this today as I do a lot of work for a company based in Stockton and they are all big Boro fans. Alas, I have been roped into going on a day out with my Mrs' work. On the plus side, it's a cider tasting tour of Westons brewery and the two owners are big City fans so hoping to listen to the match somewhere. Think it will be 2-0 to Boro but hoping we can surprise people and get a good result. 1 Quote Link to comment
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Travelled up yesterday, it is safe to say the locals are super confident about today. Hopefully a little too confident!! Quote Link to comment
Chappers Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 On my way, just had a breakfast. Still trying to work out how a place can have run out of fried bread, but still have freshly cooked toast. Quote Link to comment
rockinrobin Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 We will be there today as my Daughter Amie (8 years old) will be our away mascot for the club in her new away junior kit. We live in Darlington unfortunately, so would like to put one over all the Smoggies who I work with. Have a safe journey to all fellow reds who are travelling and hope we give a good account of ourselves. Going for a 2-1 win for the lads up the City Quote Link to comment
Devereux Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 anyone know if there will be a streaming of the game somewhere? Quote Link to comment
internetjef Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Do you remember when they had the likes of juninho and ravanelli playing for them? crazy days Quote Link to comment
downendcity Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Condensed Version: MIDDLESBROUGH Cold shithole in NE Good job, well done. Quote Link to comment
Selred Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Speaking to the locals in the pub last night. They are impressed we've sold over 300 tickets (although personally im not surprised). They are all very confident of a win but reckon we can get a mid table finish. My housemate is a Boro fan so today all friendships are on pause. Today is solely about bragging rights for the next 5 months. Looking forward to the game, just hope we can keep Albert, Kike and Stuani quiet. Fortunately it seems like Jonathan Woodgate may start though, I live in hope. Quote Link to comment
downendcity Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Middlesbrough; hard to believe it has a population of 175,000 with over 376,000 in the Teeside area taking in Redcar. Even more hard to believe that in 1820 there were fewer than 40 souls in the place. Then came the tracks, then came the trains carrying their dirty ole' coal, then came the churches and then came the port. And then came the people and by 1840 it was 5,000 and then came the blast furnaces and it never looked back..streets, gas lamps and trams, it was a dandy place for the industrial working class with the dance halls and walks of a weekend on Roseberry Topping. What a wonderful name for a hill, sounds like dessert is about to be served. But then the coal shut down and Middlesborough became a shadow of its former self, a Salford of the North East and a post industrial Teeside was not a particularly nice place to be. Those years have passed and there exists today a slightly better and regenerated Teeside. Interesting to note though that the population has actually fallen by 20,000 in the last 20 years. It's a common tale of urban decay: unemployment is still high and often long-term; much of the workforce is employed in vulnerable sectors; educational achievement and life expectancy are low; and more than two thirds of council wards are classed as deprived. However its not all bad; what Middlesbrough really has going for it is not a snazzy town centre, but an industrial heritage that has produced a technology and skills base that continues to attract investment. And like most of Britain its a fine ole' landscape outside these industrial heartlands. Roseberry Topping being one that features strongly in the identity of the Teeside people and has been a place of pilgrimage for centuries. At just over a thousand feet high you have panoramic views of the Vale of Cleveland to distant towns of the Tees Valley. Its grand from up there.. George Tweddle wrote that he had sat on the Topping with many a Bard... and where the loved landscape here unfurled to view, where the picture is ever new, the watchet ocean, we may roam far and wide before we see a finer sight than here from Rosebury. he wrote that in 1870. The view from there today toward the ocean would of course take in the Riverside Stadium. One of the first to be built following the Taylor Report. Long gone is Ayresome Park in the middle of town where I visited many years ago; a decrepit ground if ever there was one but loved by all those Teesiders I will wager. One lower position than City is the highest Boro have ever finished; 3rd in 1915. Only 2 seasons have been spent outside the top two divisions mind, quite a record. In 1986 they almost folded and from whence Steve Gibson and his consortium came along and the rest, is history. Relegated in 1997 for failing to fulfill a fixture against Blackburn they bounced back the following season and spent 11 years in the top flight before succumbing again to relegation in 2009 where they remain of course. Although they did win the League Cup in 2004 their only major trophy. After a poor run of 2 wins in 12 Tony Mowbray left the club ushering in a new 'Spanish' era with Aitor Karanka de la Hoz being appointed in 2013. Previously assistant to Jose M at Real he comes with some relative pedigree and not a little expectation. Last season was a near miss for Boro so lets see if his close season signings will take them a step closer this term. Today they must get past City! I think our resolve will have been greatly assisted by our come back on Tuesday night against a rather petulant Leeds side. Yet the niggling failure to bolster our squad perhaps will play on the minds of all. I still feel we have enough in the locker to avoid defeat today and we may even come away with a surprise win. 1-1 or 0-1 to City. I am allowed two choices! UTC Good as always Havana, although you might want to get some tips from Tone about editing 1 Quote Link to comment
Fordy62 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Speaking to the locals in the pub last night. They are impressed we've sold over 300 tickets (although personally im not surprised). They are all very confident of a win but reckon we can get a mid table finish. My housemate is a Boro fan so today all friendships are on pause. Today is solely about bragging rights for the next 5 months. Looking forward to the game, just hope we can keep Albert, Kike and Stuani quiet. Fortunately it seems like Jonathan Woodgate may start though, I live in hope. Woodgate is still around? Quote Link to comment
JBFC II Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Anyone know if Slovenian radio is covering it? I'm here and not too hopeful of being able to catch the action... Do you have a tablet or a smartphone or something? Because you can download the radio player app and you can listen to BBC Bristol anywhere in the world Quote Link to comment
JBFC II Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Have they still got that little Brazilian lad playing in midfield for them? Juninho Quote Link to comment
cidered abroad Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Do you have a tablet or a smartphone or something? Because you can download the radio player app and you can listen to BBC Bristol anywhere in the world But I think the BBC block football commentaries via internet for contractual reasons. Quote Link to comment
Robbie_Turner Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Good read Havana. Unfortunately I can only see a long backs to the wall afternoon for us. Sorry to say but 4-0 1 Quote Link to comment
TNBT Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Great read as per usual Havanatopia keep it up. Not to forget BigTone keep them coming. I'm reckoning a 2-1 to them hoping we can get a 0-1 win keeping a much needed clean sheet with a commanding defensive display for our confidence. Hope all have a safe journey and come back smiling or at least not miserable. COYR's! 1 Quote Link to comment
YorkshireSection Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 It best be potd as there's a few of us going up without tickets! Not as if there will be any more than 400 of us is it. Quote Link to comment
Wanderingred Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Got a feeling we'll sneak a jammy 1-0 backs to the wall win today. Quote Link to comment
BigTone Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Got a feeling we'll sneak a jammy 1-0 backs to the wall win today.I have that feeling in my water as well 1 Quote Link to comment
Selred Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 It best be potd as there's a few of us going up without tickets! Not as if there will be any more than 400 of us is it. It is potd don't worry! Quote Link to comment
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