KevP Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 We had a good bit of banter with some before the game. Others though were clearly enjoying winding people up, knowing they will get away with it every time cos "look at us. We're WMP"........Those are the scumbags who give the whole force the bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterStyvarsRightFoot Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Do you not feel that by using the travel arrangements you did and then being wuite vocal your bringing undue attention on yourself? Not overly No, because the train up we were on every last one of us were quiet and in the pub it wasn't 'singing ' as such , rather pointing and laughing at each other between 3 of us ... In a crowded pub full of city , what we were doing was Most likely quiet as a mouse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 13, 2015 Author Admin Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 My original point was that there were men women and children that had been turned away, if they were banned supporters or had been involved in some kind of disorder I would say fair enough but knowing the people I met they are certainly not in either category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 all in all like a previous poster said that was a rehearsal for villa blues next week we were just unlucky but what a bunch of synts as usualand I was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The FSF Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hello, I'm Amanda from the Football Supporters' Federation and part of my role is to advise fans who've got cause to complain about policing and stewarding. If anybody would like to get in touch, in completely confidence, about their experiences yesterday, my email is amanda.jacks@fsf.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisepranker Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 I almost felt embarsssed for the spotty stons island teenagers as they jumped off the mini bus expecting their elders to back them up. Think the elders were either too busy wetting themselves or trying to pretend they had nothing to do with these morans. The look on these teenagers faces when they realised they were surrounded by brum and no one would back them up made the entry fee worthwhile. It reminded me of that scene from the football factory film where their coach drives off and they chase after it to escape the rival fans. or maybe the bus was parked up as others on the bus were trying to get away from the ground still...and maybe the elders didnt realise why the boys got off the bus until it was too late and as soon as realised shouted at them to get back on bus..and then maybe the police caught up with the bus and one of the elders has only just got back from brum after missing trains last night and having to get hotel after staying with one of the lads while they were processed. apparently the much older 2 lads on bus stop were beckoning and goading (people wearing shirts arnt always angels). still dont make it right though....maybe spotty teen wont b getting any pocket money for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 or maybe the bus was parked up as others on the bus were trying to get away from the ground still...and maybe the elders didnt realise why the boys got off the bus until it was too late and as soon as realised shouted at them to get back on bus..and then maybe the police caught up with the bus and one of the elders has only just got back from brum after missing trains last night and having to get hotel after staying with one of the lads while they were processed. apparently the much older 2 lads on bus stop were beckoning and goading (people wearing shirts arnt always angels). still dont make it right though....maybe spotty teen wont b getting any pocket money for a long time.I saw the whole incident. White mini bus stuck in traffic. Two brum fans on a bus stop in shirts and scarfs giving some friendly banter like we would do following a 4-2 win at AG. These spotty lads jumped off the bus and landed some punches in an unprovoked attack. Your right the elders didcall them back onto the bus but just in time as this incident started to catch the eye of the locals. If the police want a statement from me im more than happy to provide this. I dont view it as them or us I view it as what is right or wrong and that sort of behaviour has no place in football. I had chikdren with me who were upset by this and there was lots of other familes walking up this road also. I hope these boys learn the hard way and then have many trouble free happy years of supporting City ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 After the match loads of City and Brum fans were crossing a dual carriageway, I suggested to two coppers who would stood around chatting doing **** all that they should keep an eye on it as someone could easily get hit by a car. Their response was "Well done mate, give yourself a gold star.", nice and professional... What a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Reasons not to go to the Midlands. 1. It's the Midlands.2. The West Midlands Police Farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Only moan I have is as I was walking away from the stadium towards morrisons a bunch of pathetic city fans jumped out of a mini bus and attacked some brum fans who were wearing shirts. My only moan is that there were no police around as these people should not be anywhere near football stadiums. Many children witnessed this incident.That's two moans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 After today's Specticle ....I think it's safe to say they're the worst force In the country... had had one of my friends sent back as he got off the train; had myself threatened by an officer and a duty manager in the pub saying if I kept singing between my friends and I then I'll be off the premises and not allowed to the game....FCOL myself and two others were singing build me up buttercup ( personal joke)then last but not least they plucked the escort out at random and nicked people who's done naff all wrong !! Sometimes it might be a good idea to not draw attention to yourself by singing in a pub on a away day, sort of asking for trouble, always best to keep your head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Sometimes it might be a good idea to not draw attention to yourself by singing in a pub on a away day, sort of asking for trouble, always best to keep your head down.which in its own right is complete nonsense, it shouldn't be like that ps. I'm not disagreeing with you, sadly your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBristolCityBhoy Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 There was trouble between Rovers fans and the police up there a few years ago when they played at Brum in the cup. There was a youtube clip at the time.I don't know if the over zealous policing had anything to do with that as we're both Bristol teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 There was trouble between Rovers fans and the police up there a few years ago when they played at Brum in the cup. There was a youtube clip at the time.I don't know if the over zealous policing had anything to do with that as we're both Bristol teams. I can't remember seeing any real trouble there that night, although the policing was typically heavy handed, and like you we were blocked at the exit after the game, which got a few tempers raised. Mind you, all of my worst experiences of policing at football matches have been at either Walsall, Wolverhamton or Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 I can't remember seeing any real trouble there that night, although the policing was typically heavy handed, and like you we were blocked at the exit after the game, which got a few tempers raised. Mind you, all of my worst experiences of policing at football matches have been at either Walsall, Wolverhamton or Birmingham.We wasnt blocked as such. Just had to filter through them. Had no problems getting through at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 I can't remember seeing any real trouble there that night, although the policing was typically heavy handed, and like you we were blocked at the exit after the game, which got a few tempers raised. Mind you, all of my worst experiences of policing at football matches have been at either Walsall, Wolverhamton or Birmingham.I wonder if you asked a police horse where it's worst experience at a football match was, where that would be?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Singing in a pub is not a crime. I totally get the 'not drawing attention to yourself' argument, but that doesn't make it right. WMP are easily the most obnoxious bunch of jobsworths in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 It's the same every time we go up there - Birmingham, West Brom, Wolves, Walsall WMP seem intent in creating issues for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everreddy Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Surely it's possible to have a good day out, support our team, and yet still behave in an orderly way without annoying other train travellers and members of the public going about their business? It's because of the irritating, selfish and yobbish behaviour of an, admittedly small but uncontrolled, minority of fans that upsets others and provokes an often unreasonable reaction from the police, that I've stopped travelling by train to away matches. Sad to say, but true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Surely it's possible to have a good day out, support our team, and yet still behave in an orderly way without annoying other train travellers and members of the public going about their business? It's because of the irritating, selfish and yobbish behaviour of an, admittedly small but uncontrolled, minority of fans that upsets others and provokes an often unreasonable reaction from the police, that I've stopped travelling by train to away matches. Sad to say, but true!Probably the same people who take flares into stadiums.One lad was removed from the away end at half-time by half a dozen stewards. I pressume he was identified by CCTV footage and apprehended when he least expected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yea I saw two flares be set off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yea I saw two flares be set off.Just a few rows back from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay42 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Feel sorry for the ordinary fans that got refused, that is wrong. However, what I saw and heard yesterday from quite a few city fans was embarrassing.The mini bus incident. Why do it? Would you do at any other time? No. So why after a football match? It's pathetic. You could get yourself arrested for assault and get a criminal record, all over some banter at a footy match.I was sat near front at brum game and whilst I appreciate language is bad at matches these three supporters sat next to a family with 3 young kids, c*** w******* p***** etc etc. come on, tone it down when you're sat next to 7 yr olds. Thirdly, why go mental when an opposition player scores and celebrates in front of us? I witnessed a few teenagers, wannabe gansta's, using their hands making a slitting throat gesture to opposition fans. And using the w******r sign. Really? Why? lastly, I got moaned at by a supporter who turned to me and said 'call yourself a ******** supporter'? All I did is say that their headed goal was a good header. No no wonder why we have a bad name. Why cant all fans just go and watch and be sensible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisepranker Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 not flares! what is the world coming to....and singing in a pub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 not flares! what is the world coming to....and singing in a pub! Is lighting a flare inside a football stadium worth getting a banning order for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisepranker Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 no way is a flare worth getting a ban for. nor is fighting or anything really. its just that alot of people are sensible ..good for them. lots of people arn't and thats ok for them...just sometimes on this forum alot of people forget what its like to be young and can come across as very damning. even saying there is no place for those kind of people at the club...when i would say there is room for everyone...its all getting abit middle class.i would say its not very clever to take a toddler to an away game like yesterday...rightly or wrongly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 no way is a flare worth getting a ban for. nor is fighting or anything really. its just that alot of people are sensible ..good for them. lots of people arn't and thats ok for them...just sometimes on this forum alot of people forget what its like to be young and can come across as very damning. even saying there is no place for those kind of people at the club...when i would say there is room for everyone...its all getting abit middle class.i would say its not very clever to take a toddler to an away game like yesterday...rightly or wronglyThe lad who (I'm guessing) lit one of the flares yesterday got nickedHe can't really have any excuse......not even his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 I would say its not clever to take a toddler to an away game like yesterday...rightly or wronglywhat an outrageous comment. A football game is open to all ages from 0-100. I applaud any child that attends as they are the next generation and its much better they are watching is than watching prem football on the TV. i was near some children today and some of the language around them was disgusting (not their parents) dont get me wrong my language can be fruitful but mind what I say when children are close by. Just wish others coukd do the same and make these chikdren more welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 The lad who (I'm guessing) lit one of the flares yesterday got nickedHe can't really have any excuse......not even his age.Unless hes 12 then no. A 18 year old for instance knows right from wrong and chose to do wrong just for a fee seconds of fun. Question I have for him is was it really worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisepranker Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 i agree....what i am saying is if they want to set off flares and that i am not going to start judging them...they make their choice, fine by me..they get their conequence ...fine by me. them hopefully they learn from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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