Stortz Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) RIP Jake LaMotta. They don't make them like that any more Edit- absolutely fantastic article on the St Valentines Day massacre here: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/the-balls-of-wrath/2016/feb/08/boxing-sugar-ray-robinson-jake-la-motta-valentine-1951 'You never put me down Ray' Edited September 20, 2017 by Stortz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) On 9/18/2017 at 21:19, Tomarse said: Judge suspended by the NSAC And surprise surprise talks started on a re match. The sport is as bent as ****. it's becoming a parody of WWE. Edited September 20, 2017 by Esmond Million's Bung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: And surprise surprise talks started on a re match. The sport is as bent as ****. it's becoming a parody of WWE. That was nailed on well before the fight, unless there was brutal, career ending knockout or embarrassing, massively one sided UD. I'm as pissed off about the draw as you are, but it was always going to happen more than once. It's just too unusual for 2 such dominant top P4P fighters to be in the same weight division for there to only have been one fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Stortz said: RIP Jake LaMotta. They don't make them like that any more Edit- absolutely fantastic article on the St Valentines Day massacre here: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/the-balls-of-wrath/2016/feb/08/boxing-sugar-ray-robinson-jake-la-motta-valentine-1951 'You never put me down Ray' Bought my son Raging Bull for his birthday and watched it with him last week. Forgotten how good it was. Staggering piece of cinema. I couldn't get my head around how bad it made him look but that he was a consultant on the film and spent a year training De Niro. He sums up the conflict inherent in boxing. Bravery in the ring is rarely reflected outside of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 15 hours ago, Stortz said: That was nailed on well before the fight, unless there was brutal, career ending knockout or embarrassing, massively one sided UD. I'm as pissed off about the draw as you are, but it was always going to happen more than once. It's just too unusual for 2 such dominant top P4P fighters to be in the same weight division for there to only have been one fight. Yep and now with the free huge publicity surrounding the controversy, I suppose the route that boxing has taken in recent years the controversy is just a coincidence, that is my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Yep and now with the free huge publicity surrounding the controversy, I suppose the route that boxing has taken in recent years the controversy is just a coincidence, that is my point. I don't really understand what you mean, what route that boxing has taken? It's always been massively controversial- any sport judged subjectively often is by definition, surely? Given that the actual mob ran it for decades I would suggest it's (generally) more 'honest' now than in the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stortz said: I don't really understand what you mean, what route that boxing has taken? It's always been massively controversial- any sport judged subjectively often is by definition, surely? Given that the actual mob ran it for decades I would suggest it's (generally) more 'honest' now than in the past. The route it has taken is akin to WWE and the sensationalisation that so called sport whips up, the Macgregor fight was bad enough, this latest episode smacks to me being staged managed ala WWE, I am waiting for the day when there will be masked boxers or perhaps fake girlfriends with pumped up knockers walking around the ring trying to trip the opponent up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, The Bard said: Bought my son Raging Bull for his birthday and watched it with him last week. Forgotten how good it was. Staggering piece of cinema. I couldn't get my head around how bad it made him look but that he was a consultant on the film and spent a year training De Niro. He sums up the conflict inherent in boxing. Bravery in the ring is rarely reflected outside of it. Yeah it's a phenomonal piece of work, Scorsese's and De Niro's finest hours imo. There was an illuminating quote from LaMotta in the BBC's report of his death yesterday: "After the film debuted, he expressed puzzlement as to why he had allowed his life to be depicted, and even worked on set as a consultant. "When I saw the film I was upset. I kind of look bad in it," he told a reviewer. "Then I realised it was true. That's the way it was... It's not the way I am now, but the way I was then."" I don't think I agree with your last sentence though. I can think of many examples of very brave boxers outside the ring- Emile Griffith and Michael Watson for instance. Certainly there is a destructive element to the personalities of many of those who box too; all too often they are bankrupt and friendless by the end. Edited September 21, 2017 by Stortz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: The route it has taken is akin to WWE and the sensationalisation that so called sport whips up, the Macgregor fight was bad enough, this latest episode smacks to me being staged managed ala WWE, I am waiting for the day when there will be masked boxers or perhaps fake girlfriends with pumped up knockers walking around the ring trying to trip the opponent up. Ah ok, I get you. There's no doubt all the MayMac bollocks was nauseating, I refused to watch it. That excepted, I think it's just the world we live in rather than boxing per se though; everything is amplified through social media and promoters have realised what a powerful tool it is. I would agree that the massive increase in PPV has made the promotion more strident and the ability to construct narratives around fights is grasped eagerly- but the same thing happens every 'Super Sunday' to promote games between Bournemoth and Huddesfield as epoch shattering clashes. I don't think you could call the GGG Canelo fight stage managed either, this was two elite fighters trying to do serious damage. The controversy has unfortunately overshadowed what a gripping, compelling fight it actually was imo. There is no way they were holding back shots thinking of the extra $ next time out. The 'fake girlfriends with pumped up knockers' bit made me laugh, thanks- I don't think we're quite there yet though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stortz said: Ah ok, I get you. There's no doubt all the MayMac bollocks was nauseating, I refused to watch it. That excepted, I think it's just the world we live in rather than boxing per se though; everything is amplified through social media and promoters have realised what a powerful tool it is. I would agree that the massive increase in PPV has made the promotion more strident and the ability to construct narratives around fights is grasped eagerly- but the same thing happens every 'Super Sunday' to promote games between Bournemoth and Huddesfield as epoch shattering clashes. I don't think you could call the GGG Canelo fight stage managed either, this was two elite fighters trying to do serious damage. The controversy has unfortunately overshadowed what a gripping, compelling fight it actually was imo. There is no way they were holding back shots thinking of the extra $ next time out. The 'fake girlfriends with pumped up knockers' bit made me laugh, thanks- I don't think we're quite there yet though! The controversy IMHO is the problem it needs to be thoroughly investigated, was there a reason for the ridiculous score card?, like for instance and just off of the top of my head, certain people making a huge amount of money out of a controversial result and the imminent 2nd fight???? Especially now that all of the necessary publicity is all ready in place. What next take your kids to a weigh in and allow that kid to kick and punch daddy's opponent?, oh hang on!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: The controversy IMHO is the problem it needs to be thoroughly investigated, was there a reason for the ridiculous score card?, like for instance and just off of the top of my head, certain people making a huge amount of money out of a controversial result and the imminent 2nd fight???? Especially now that all of the necessary publicity is all ready in place. What next take your kids to a weigh in and allow that kid to kick and punch daddy's opponent?, oh hang on!!!!! The big question is how Byrd got the gig at all when she has had so many stinking cards in the past. To an extent I find the drawn card more suspicious; Byrd had been shown to be incompetent previously, so you half expected it from her, but how Don Trella gave the 7th to Canelo- a round in which he was entirely outclassed and whacked around the ring- is an even bigger mystery. Even Byrd gave that one to GGG! If Trella had, we would be talking abot a GGG SD win- but there would still be another fight in the offing. Occam's Razor dictates that it was far more likely to be incompetence by both judges rather than machavellian planning involving dozens that got us here. Nefariously setting it all up would be far too much of a financial risk, and all their efforts would have been for nothing from 1 split second punch. Billy Joe Saunders is going to Billy Joe Saunders unfortunately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Andre Ward retires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Tomarse said: Going out at the top really. Another great one gone Yep unbeaten fighter who looked a class above everyone he fought. Another great 'defensive' boxer. Loss to the game for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Campbell v Linares tomorrow night. looks a complete mismatch to me. Anyone give Campbell a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 On 22/09/2017 at 09:50, Super said: Campbell v Linares tomorrow night. looks a complete mismatch to me. Anyone give Campbell a chance? Not a hope in hell,if Campbell had any power maybe but he has none. How many prats do you think bought the fury Parker fight :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Anyone got a stream for the Hughie Fury fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, yardy said: Anyone got a stream for the Hughie Fury fight? Try searching it into Facebook, I’ve found streams there last couple of times. Don’t fancy paying 14.99 for the YouTube stream then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Ha, no i won't be paying for any Hughie stream....especially at that price. Got a free stream but its pretty average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 This is up and down like a whore's drawers http://buffstream.com/watch/boxing.php Or keep looking here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Stortz said: This is up and down like a whore's drawers http://buffstream.com/watch/boxing.php Or keep looking here Thanks, i was looking for the boxing streams on reddit and couldn't find it. The acestream link is working well atmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Visiting Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Is this WWE? Cactus Jack Edited September 23, 2017 by Owl Visiting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 http://giostreams.eu/members/livehd.html this is good now gentlemen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Visiting Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Stortz said: http://giostreams.eu/members/livehd.html this is good now gentlemen Working great this one, thanks Stortz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Owl Visiting said: Working great this one, thanks Stortz. You're more than welcome mate, it's normally you bringing them haha. The very best of luck tomorrow btw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I got one on bob on kodi,perfect hd but foreign :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: I got one on bob on kodi,perfect hd but foreign Hey jjt, hope you're well mate! I reckon Campbell has a sniff of a chance v Linares tonight tbh, think the latter has appreciably slowed down,and Luke is big at the weight too. The link I posted for Parker Furyabove is direct btw, no kodi required! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stortz said: Hey jjt, hope you're well mate! I reckon Campbell has a sniff of a chance v Linares tonight tbh, think the latter has appreciably slowed down,and Luke is big at the weight too. The link I posted for Parker Furyabove is direct btw, no kodi required! I'm good mate,don't think he has a hope in hell if I'm honest,very much doubt I will stay up to watch it tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Bloody hell this goes on a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 43 minutes ago, Stortz said: http://giostreams.eu/members/livehd.html this is good now gentlemen Is that stream still up mate? Not working here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Visiting Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, yardy said: Is that stream still up mate? Not working here It's gone down for me Using this one now http://firstrowsportes.net/boxing/joseph-parker-vs-hughie-fury-krk55120b?l=1523778091 not great but it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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