Bs4Red Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Interesting conversation last night between my dad and his mate. Now I'm not old enough to discuss but I'm sure some of you can.My dad was chatting about City legends and him and his mate agreed up until they were talking about Dariusz Dziekanowski. My dad says hands down a city legend, one of the best players he's ever seen and a luxury for city to have had someone like him.His mate said hed never made enough appearances to be a legend. Any thoughts on this and any opinions on players you class as City legends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There's John Atyeo... ... then there's the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Heard of a legend. There was a dark defensive Lord called Osman. No goals will be scored here proclaimed the dark defensive Lord. A mysterious chap called Dziekanowski disagreed with the dark Lord and tried magic tricks with the ball. "I'm not having that here, off you go" said the dark defensive Lord called Osman. When the peasants learned off this they took to booing the the dark defensive Lord called Osman. and he was sent to a stinking rotten terrible place across the river .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Appearances of course have something to do with it but I'm sure if you ask most Carlisle fans if they think Jimmy Glass is a legend I'm sure 100% will say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Appearances of course have something to do with it but I'm sure if you ask most Carlisle fans if they think Jimmy Glass is a legend I'm sure 100% will say yes.I suppose there are legends and there are legendary moments and Glass would fall into the second category. Martyn Hirst wont be on any list of City Legends but I was there for his Eastville moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think the word Legend gets bounded about too frequently...there are 'Legends' and then there are 'Fans favourites'.John Atyeo was a Legend for Bristol City.... as an example, Gerry Gow a fans favourite.A legend... ''a symbolic representation of folk belief and collective experiences, and serving as a reaffirmation of commonly held values of the group to whose tradition it belongs."a collection of stories about an admirable person. I think John Atyeo is probably the only Legend we have had at Bristol City....as he holds value and respect to everyone that follows City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 To paraphrase Mike Skinner on the first Streets album, Jacki was "Cult Classic, not Best Ever". He ain't an Atyeo or even a Scotty Murray in terms of contribution to the club, but he has a place in the history of Bristol City FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think a Legend must be a person who has imposed themselves on the culture of the club and connected with the fans . Someone to whom the club represented the most important part of their career.It's very subjective , in my time, Legend. Gerry Gow Tom RitchieGeoff Merrick Scott MurrayTerry CooperPaul CheeseleyLouis Carey Alan DicksFor example no one talks of the following as " Bristol City Legend ..."'Bob TaylorNorman HunterJohn Galley... even though they merit a mention. list non exhaustive , apologies to any legends i may have forgotten. I thank you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think the word Legend gets bounded about too frequently...there are 'Legends' and then there are 'Fans favourites'.John Atyeo was a Legend for Bristol City.... as an example, Gerry Gow a fans favourite.A legend... ''a symbolic representation of folk belief and collective experiences, and serving as a reaffirmation of commonly held values of the group to whose tradition it belongs."a collection of stories about an admirable person. I think John Atyeo is probably the only Legend we have had at Bristol City....as he holds value and respect to everyone that follows City. Probably before most peoples time but I reckon Billy Wedlock can be classed as a City Legend as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Along with the four letter word probably the most over used and over rated word in use. Spudski amd Aizoon got it about right and of course the Oxford English Dictionary:-legend noun : a very old story or set of stories from ancient times, or the stories, not always true, that people tell about a famous event or person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I suppose there are legends and there are legendary moments and Glass would fall into the second category. Martyn Hirst wont be on any list of City Legends but I was there for his Eastville moment I'd put Christian Roberts in the legendary moments category twice for his exploits re Mansfield and Hartlepool.Real legends have obviously got a shelf life - no one has mentioned Billy Wedlock yet, who surely must be City's best ever player, with no disrespect to Big John. Difficult to nominate anyone from the last 30 years, IMO. Plenty of great moments though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Probably before most peoples time but I reckon Billy Wedlock can be classed as a City Legend as wellAnd if you ask the evil post they will add Fred Wedlock to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I am sure everyone has a differing view on this, but for me, I think there needs to be some element of longevity in a player's career to carry over from cult hero to club legend.Jacki is certainly in the former category, in recent years, players like Tinnion (playing career only), Murray and Carey spring to mind for the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Cult classic, not best seller*well played sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Whooooossshhhh Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Buster Footman.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Cult classic, not best seller*if that was correcting my post, please look up the definition of the word 'paraphrase'. If it wasn't, I already did that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I suppose there are legends and there are legendary moments and Glass would fall into the second category. Martyn Hirst wont be on any list of City Legends but I was there for his Eastville moment So was I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Colin Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul_Trader Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think they should be called Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 We have the Wedlock and Atyeo stands....I can't think of one other player that has played for us, that would deserve a stand or statue named or built in their honour.A player has to epitomise and represent everything that is good and honourable about a club, and done with distinction and merit....not just honoured by those followers of a club, but respected by others as well. It's not just about appearances either. Without wishing to put a slight on the man, I'd never include Carey as a Legend or Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As club legends go we also have the Dolman Stand, and, though some may disagree, I can see no reason why we shouldn't at some time have a Lansdown stand.He has done a tremendous amount for the club. Even though a lot of it hasn't brought the success he would have hoped for, he never seems to lose his enthusiasm to take the club forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think a legend is someone connected to the club who will never be forgotten for what they did for Bristol City.It could be a whole career, a one off event or a series of events.To me it's Atyeo, Riley, Cooper, Newman, Tinnion (amongst others) with people like Beryl Fudge also on the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 And if you ask the evil post they will add Fred Wedlock to the list And very probably Jon Ateyo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Steve lansdown legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think a Legend must be a person who has imposed themselves on the culture of the club and connected with the fans . Someone to whom the club represented the most important part of their career.It's very subjective , in my time, Legend. BigToneBigToneBigToneBigToneBigToneBigToneBigToneBigToneFor example no one talks of the following as " Bristol City Legend ..."'Bob TaylorNorman HunterJohn Galley... even though they merit a mention. list non exhaustive , apologies to any legends i may have forgotten. I thank you all.Agreed and no need to apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 To be a legend, the person must do something legendary. This could be sustained performance over a period of time - e g John Atyeo; or a one off action - e g Brian Tinion scoring at Anfield. Of course, some players are legendary for all the wrong reasons - e g Nicky Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I suppose there are legends and there are legendary moments and Glass would fall into the second category. Martyn Hirst wont be on any list of City Legends but I was there for his Eastville moment One of my favourite away days ever,the Muller rd end went absolutely mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There are legendary teams, such as the 75-76 team or the 64-65 team,and legendary players such as Wedlock and Atyeo.I wonder if will people look back at last years team in the future and see them as legends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlockExile Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Not a legend but one of our legendary Moments - Carl Shutt 4 v Fulham ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 One of my favourite away days ever,the Muller rd end went absolutely mental.Cracking away, even if I recall nothing about it, other than the police escort walking back up Stapleton Road to the car. Was a kid at the time, so can't even put it down to being drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Cracking away, even if I recall nothing about it, other than the police escort walking back up Stapleton Road to the car. Was a kid at the time, so can't even put it down to being drunk.Didn't go in for the police escort type of thing,we sort of escorted ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Not a legend but one of our legendary Moments - Carl Shutt 4 v Fulham ??Carl Shutt is remembered with affection in Leeds, Bradford and Bristol. Not because he was a superstar - he wasn't, but because he gave 100% for his club 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 As club legends go we also have the Dolman Stand, and, though some may disagree, I can see no reason why we shouldn't at some time have a Lansdown stand.He has done a tremendous amount for the club. Even though a lot of it hasn't brought the success he would have hoped for, he never seems to lose his enthusiasm to take the club forward.Any lifts or stairs should be named after SL...in memory of his tenure...up and down ;-)All Gents....should be named after AD....in memory of 'Dicks out' ;-)All said with tongue firmly in cheek ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Kilkennyjody morrisdavid jamesnicky shoreynicky huntpeter styvarsay no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Didn't go in for the police escort type of thing,we sort of escorted ourselves.Other than helpfully getting escorted from Millwall all the way to Paddington (when I was staying in a hotel just off the Strand and thus had no interest in being put on a train to Bristol) I don't think I ever got lumbered with a police escort.That said, Bolton away 1990 (IIRC) is one where it might have been handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Other than helpfully getting escorted from Millwall all the way to Paddington (when I was staying in a hotel just off the Strand and thus had no interest in being put on a train to Bristol) I don't think I ever got lumbered with a police escort.That said, Bolton away 1990 (IIRC) is one where it might have been handy.But they're never there then, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Kilkennyjody morrisdavid jamesnicky shoreynicky huntpeter styvarsay no moreGus Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 A legend is a player or any member of the managerial coaching staff who gives 100% to their club, supporters and themselves during their time with Bristol City.The lengthier the stay will obviously bring greater acclaim and if there is team success at the same time, then that will also be beneficial to how supporters view them. Ability will also influence those who want to add "legend" to them, but this should not be the sole criteria. Those with lesser skills who do their job to the best of their ability are also deserving of the ultimate acclaimAs I have seen so many during my time that could be termed as legendary, I will be here all night if I listed all so just a couple or so.Big John obviously. Terry Bush, never a star but so dependable. Scotty Murray who never let us or the Club down. Mike Gibson even if he did let in one or two Jack Connor own goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Other than helpfully getting escorted from Millwall all the way to Paddington (when I was staying in a hotel just off the Strand and thus had no interest in being put on a train to Bristol) I don't think I ever got lumbered with a police escort.That said, Bolton away 1990 (IIRC) is one where it might have been handy.Oh I don't know,I remember it as a good away day,finished off with some rather nice chips from a chippy opposite the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There are legendary teams, such as the 75-76 team or the 64-65 team,and legendary players such as Wedlock and Atyeo.I wonder if will people look back at last years team in the future and see them as legends.The 1964-65 team? Third division runners up.....A fine achievement obviously but legendary status afforded to them for coming second in the third tier? Debatable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 What's legendary about the 1964-65 season is the run-in; W 11 D 1 L 1, with a 5-1 away win in the penultimate game to give us a chance at the Goal Average we needed. We finally made it with John Atyeo's goal in the last five minutes of the season, to put us in a promotion place for the first time. I still have the programme for the home game against top-placed Rovers saying "Now we've lost our chance of promotion, time to build for next season". Atyeo came back from injury, we stuffed the Gas, and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 What's legendary about the 1964-65 season is the run-in; W 11 D 1 L 1, with a 5-1 away win in the penultimate game to give us a chance at the Goal Average we needed. We finally made it with John Atyeo's goal in the last five minutes of the season, to put us in a promotion place for the first time. I still have the programme for the home game against top-placed Rovers saying "Now we've lost our chance of promotion, time to build for next season". Atyeo came back from injury, we stuffed the Gas, and the rest is history.Fair play, I stand corrected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Fair play, I stand corrected...Oh, and it was 1-1 at half time at Shrewsbury, and Atyeo scored four in the second half. I didn't believe it on the radio (no Internet or Teletext than) and phoned the Supporters Club. When I finally got through, a very drunken voice told me "Five-one - we're going up!". I remember it as if it was yesterday - actually, rather better because, at my age, yesterday's a bit of a blur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Oh, and it was 1-1 at half time at Shrewsbury, and Atyeo scored four in the second half. I didn't believe it on the radio (no Internet or Teletext than) and phoned the Supporters Club. When I finally got through, a very drunken voice told me "Five-one - we're going up!". I remember it as if it was yesterday - actually, rather better because, at my age, yesterday's a bit of a blur Superb! Four in the second half! Atyeo is surely the one who no one can argue deserves to be a Bristol City legend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I would go further. I would say that the John Atyeo of the mid-fifties was probably the best player ever to play at the third level of English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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One Team In Keynsham Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Junior Bent And he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Since I have been a city fan I have watched one legend in the flesh and I saw him running through Flax Bourton this morning. Louis Carey. Scott come close and I'll never forget the bloke, but legend...not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think a legend is someone connected to the club who will never be forgotten for what they did for Bristol City.It could be a whole career, a one off event or a series of events.To me it's Atyeo, Riley, Cooper, Newman, Tinnion (amongst others) with people like Beryl Fudge also on the list... Beryl Fudge - great shout - a diamond during dark years at the Club and trips to Rochdale, Carlisle and ChesterBless her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 What's legendary about the 1964-65 season is the run-in; W 11 D 1 L 1, with a 5-1 away win in the penultimate game to give us a chance at the Goal Average we needed. We finally made it with John Atyeo's goal in the last five minutes of the season, to put us in a promotion place for the first time. I still have the programme for the home game against top-placed Rovers saying "Now we've lost our chance of promotion, time to build for next season". Atyeo came back from injury, we stuffed the Gas, and the rest is history.sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Sounds about rightI think a Legend must be a person who has imposed themselves on the culture of the club and connected with the fans . Someone to whom the club represented the most important part of their career.It's very subjective , in my time, Legend. Gerry Gow Tom RitchieGeoff Merrick Scott MurrayTerry CooperPaul CheeseleyLouis Carey Alan DicksFor example no one talks of the following as " Bristol City Legend ..."'Bob TaylorNorman HunterJohn Galley... even though they merit a mention. list non exhaustive , apologies to any legends i may have forgotten. I thank you all.Disagree with bottom 3 great players for the club not legends Paul Cheeseley might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Sounds about rightDisagree with bottom 3 great players for the club not legends Paul Cheeseley might have been. Like i say subjective . No one person is bigger than a club but Bill Shankly at Liverpool , Cloughie at Forest , Bobby Robson at Ipswich and Don Revie at Leeds for example are all legends because they pulled these clubs from relative obscurity to international récognition.Alan Dicks did this on a more modest scale but for City it was a révolution.We returned to the top level after 65 years with a team of mostly home developed players , a feat still not equalled. If we had n't got caught out big time with the freedom of contract law Dick's reputation would , IMHO, have accorded him Legendary status.It all ended rather sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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