Welcome To The Jungle Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 No atmosphere, plastic fans, plastic stadium and little passion. British football is dying on its arse and today showed it. Our fans were good but no neutral would have said it was a derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I feel the fixture at our place would have more of a derby feel. That place is ridiculously sterile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Such a shame. Watched the highlight video from the Murray game earlier and was a totally different planet to tonight's game. Ninnian Park was intimidating and old school, CCS is dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 The restrictions dont help though do they. Had that been a 3 oclock saturday afternoon game with fans being able to travel on there own steam it would have been a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Didn't catch the attendance but it looked half empty so obviously that's not going to help. But yeah the atmosphere in general at football these days is nothing like it was even 5-10 years ago IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 All the sneery types who like to make the little digs at the groups trying to make an atmosphere should take note, that could be our future very easily, and it could be say it's where we were untill fans groups like the YSC formed many moons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Loyal Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 No bricks/coins and bottles of piss, modern football is utter crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think BCFC just wanted to win- I really don't give a shite that anyone may feel that it wasn't a proper derby because it was a proper football match and our team looked great and the stats back that up.Sorry if there wasn't enough fighting on or off the pitch and our fans certainly sounded good enough. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Loyal Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Nothing to get over roller, as has been said modern football is shite, simple as move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 So no trouble or violence tonight? Football really has evolved. Be interesting to see what it would be like now to play a competitive game against Rovers at their ground.Wouldn't it be great if the FA cup could make that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 All the sneery types who like to make the little digs at the groups trying to make an atmosphere should take note, that could be our future very easily, and it could be say it's where we were untill fans groups like the YSC formed many moons ago.Agree that fans do need to do something about it, but equally there's nothing more frustrating than one or two fans shouting at people around them for not standing up or singing.Need to build on atmosphere a bit at a time, it won't happen over night but I don't think we'll go the way of Cardiff, Reading or Fulham with our atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Our chants about it being a library said it all, another soulless bowl. I just hope the revamped Ashton gate doesn't turn as sterile as that ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think BCFC just wanted to win- I really don't give a shite that anyone may feel that it wasn't a proper derby because it was a proper football match and our team looked great and the stats back that up.Sorry if there wasn't enough fighting on or off the pitch and our fans certainly sounded good enough. Get over it.That is a completely separate issue. Yes our team played well, yes our fans there sounded great - good on each and every one of you...but the point is modern football is so different from even 10 years ago. That this was the atmosphere of a severnside derby was shameful and that's no slur on our fans necessarily, over zealous policing certainly. That was so sanitised it was a very poor imitation of what it could and should have been. Cardiff, honestly... if that's the price of chasing the Prem unsuccessfully well then give me the JPT. If I ever became that emotionally detached I'd justify saving the money on a football ticket with no hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 No bricks/coins and bottles of piss, modern football is utter crapDon't forget the catering size plastic bottle of ketchup going over the fence, what an explosion that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's not really the derby game we like to think it is though is it. If Cardiff had played Swansea on a Monday night on Sky, the game would have been a sellout regardless of the ticket arrangements. Likewise if we'd played Rovers under the same circumstances, the game would have sold out. We tell ourselves it's a derby because they're the closest thing we have to a credible local rival, but the evidence proves that, broadly speaking, it doesn't excite either clubs fanbase enough to put bums on seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Doesn't help that LEGOLAND is a complete soulless bowl which is clearly too big for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 It's not really the derby game we like to think it is though is it. If Cardiff had played Swansea on a Monday night on Sky, the game would have been a sellout regardless of the ticket arrangements. Likewise if we'd played Rovers under the same circumstances, the game would have sold out. We tell ourselves it's a derby because they're the closest thing we have to a credible local rival, but the evidence proves that, broadly speaking, it doesn't excite either clubs fanbase enough to put bums on seats.I disagree. I have far more vitriol for Cardiff than Bristol Rovers and I'm sure a fair number within the 0-30 year old bracket does too. I consider it a derby and it was the first fixture I looked for out of genuine anticipation. The arrangements contrived to ensure I wouldn't go. Not saying I'm not open to change however. That was a pitiful 'Derby' whatever side of the coin you are on and if it's that passionless at the CC stadium then I shalln't feel the same anticipation in future fixtures and I can't say I feel I missed much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 It is quite noticeable that the glory hunter premiership fans were absent. I couldn't believe how empty it was looking from the TV. Well done to all the city lads who were making some noise. Quite glad I boycotted the game the bubble trip shouldn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I disagree. I have far more vitriol for Cardiff than Bristol Rovers and I'm sure a fair number within the 0-30 year old bracket does too. I consider it a derby and it was the first fixture I looked for out of genuine anticipation. The arrangements contrived to ensure I wouldn't go. Not saying I'm not open to change however. That was a pitiful 'Derby' whatever side of the coin you are on and if it's that passionless at the CC stadium then I shalln't feel the same anticipation in future fixtures and I can't say I feel I missed much I was talking in very broad terms about the fanbases of both clubs as a whole. The empty seats tonight prove my point - you can't deny that the fans evidently don't consider this a derby to compare with Swansea or Rovers.However, personally speaking I do actually agree with you and I am more bothered about Cardiff than Rovers - but that's probably because I'm married into a Cardiff family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I was talking in very broad terms about the fanbases of both clubs as a whole. The empty seats tonight prove my point - you can't deny that the fans evidently don't consider this a derby to compare with Swansea or Rovers.However, personally speaking I do actually agree with you and I am more bothered about Cardiff than Rovers - but that's probably because I'm married into a Cardiff family!To be honest I see the attendances as more indicative of the bubble stifling any really away support - and I say reasonably being someone who stayed away solely because of this. I also see it as indicative of their wider problems at home by alienating the 'thick and thin' support to breaking, which they have, and relying on the Prem boost which inevitably dwindled. Their recent attendances show this effect. Take two things out of the equation: Tan and the bubble it'd be a great, passion-filled turnout I've no doubt. Cardiff v Swansea might get more of a turnout in spite of these factors, but I think that fixture appeals more to the 'Prem boost day trippers' than a game with us does. I'd dare say that it'd be an even more family affair in 3/4's of the ground given who would snap up those extra 10k of seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Yep Sky apparently said City and Cardiff are 25 miles apart....what?! Bristol and Cardiff is more like 44 miles apart, may be a small point but that made me laugh!That atmosphere tonight was just a million miles away from the old days at Ninian Park, it ain't a patch on the 'derby' from way back when...But a great result tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 To be honest I see the attendances as more indicative of the bubble stifling any really away support - and I say reasonably being someone who stayed away solely because of this. I also see it as indicative of their wider problems at home by alienating the 'thick and thin' support to breaking, which they have, and relying on the Prem boost which inevitably dwindled. Their recent attendances show this effect. Take two things out of the equation: Tan and the bubble it'd be a great, passion-filled turnout I've no doubt. Cardiff v Swansea might get more of a turnout in spite of these factors, but I think that fixture appeals more to the 'Prem boost day trippers' than a game with us does. I'd dare say that it'd be an even more family affair in 3/4's of the ground given who would snap up those extra 10k of seats. Fair enough 29, you make some very good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 It died when they moved from Ninian it seems. The atmosphere at their place is awful, even when they were top of the league and we were rock bottom in 12/13, barely a sound came from the home end. Ninian was a hostile and exciting fixture. Legoland is as sterile an atmosphere as you can get. Games at AG are usually still a decent occasion but not close to the old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 The restrictions dont help though do they. Had that been a 3 oclock saturday afternoon game with fans being able to travel on there own steam it would have been a different story.This. Complete overreaction, with a full stadium you'd have twice the atmosphere. Doesn't help that Cardiff play turgid football and hate their manager. Stadium's got very little to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm sure a fair number within the 0-30 year old bracket does too Yeah you're right, loads of 0 year olds that hate Cardiff, feisty bunch too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I wouldn't expect a derby game to mean much to players anyway. Derby's are something fans and the media make a thing of. To a player, most of them aren't from the areas involved so it makes no difference and secondly, ask a player "Does this game being against Cardiff make you want to win more?" and I'd be pissed if their answer was yes. They should want to win EVERY game just as much as the next one, if they want to beat Cardiff more than they want to beat Preston then why don't they want to beat Preston as much?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kala Taro Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Borussia Monchengladbach and KRC Genk are 56 miles apart, would this make it a derby if they played each other?Completely ridiculous to state that two clubs from different countries can possibly be a 'derby'.Only the Welsh see it as a 'derby' cos they got **** all else going on in their lives.Cardiff's only derby is against other Welsh clubs and our only derby is against the sleazy horse punchers... if that ever happens outside of a cup.As Steve Cotterill said, "The only derby I'm aware of is CITY vs r*****". Spot on imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 ldn't expect a derby, game to mean much to players anyway. Derby's are something fans and the media make a thing of. To a player, most of them aren't from the areas involved so it makes no difference and secondly, ask a player "Does this game being against Cardiff make you want to win more?" and I'd be pissed if their answer was yes. They should want to win EVERY game just as much as the next one, if they want to beat Cardiff more than they want to beat Preston then why don't they want to beat Preston as much?!what if, leading up to the match, the players pick up on and embrace how much it means to a lot of fans. proper derby or not, I don't think anyone can deny this particular fixture harvests just that little bit more than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 This. Complete overreaction, with a full stadium you'd have twice the atmosphere. Doesn't help that Cardiff play turgid football and hate their manager. Stadium's got very little to do with it.Agreed. The stadium itself is perfectly capable of producing an atmosphere as proven when Wales played Belgium there. The issue with modern stadia is the modern football fan that goes with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Doesn't help that LEGOLAND is a complete soulless bowl which is clearly too big for them.33000 seat stadium with 15k supporter in. Were going to have to be really careful that this isn't what AG becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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