ciderup Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Just had a browse on the Millers forum to see if they are confident about Saturday and one of their supporters had posted this. While it's not entirely accurate (SL doesn't bank roll the 'Cherries' for one thing), some of the figures, particularly turnover and wage bills have shocked me. Have a look.. Birmingham City Company name: Birmingham City plc Owned by: Birmingham International Holdings, a Hong Kong-listed group now in receivership Turnover: £20.1m (£24.2m) Pre-tax loss: £5.5m (-£4.1m) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £11.7m Wages and salaries: £18m Bank: HSBC Auditor: Edwards Chartered Accountants Y/E: 30 June 2014 Despite manager Gary Rowett stabling the Blues' on field performance, the club's off field future is much less certain. Owner Birmingham International Holdings is in receivership with Carson Yeung, its largest shareholder, facing money laundering charges in Hong Kong. A company called Trillion Trophy Asia Ltd is in talks with receivers from EY to buy the club. Blackburn Rovers Company name: Blackburn Rovers Football and Athletic Owned by: Venky's London Ltd, owned by V H Group, an Indian company with interests in poultry, processed food, animal vaccines and pharmaceuticals Turnover: £30.4m (£26.9m) Pre-tax loss: £42.1m (-£36.5m) Net debt: £79.8m Wages and salaries: £34.5m Bank: State Bank of India Auditor: KPMG Y/E: 30 June 2014Turnover rose by £3.5m as attendances remained steady at 14,900, but the losses meant a transfer embargo was imposed for breaching Financial Fair Play regulations. Since the 2015 year-end, Rovers have sold Rudy Gestede to Aston Villa and the departure of top striker Jordan Rhodes to help balance the books remains a possibility. Bolton Wanderers Company name: Bolton Wanderers Football & Athletic Company Owned by: Isle of Man businessman Eddie Davies, a self-made millionaire, and Fildraw Private Trust, a company registered in Bermuda Turnover: £30.6m (£28.5m) Pre-tax loss: £9.1m (-£50.7m) Net debt: £182.1m Wages and salaries: £27.6m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Deloitte Y/E: 30 June 2014 Chairman Phil Gartside described Eddie Davies' support as "humbling" but it's no secret the businessman is now looking for an exit as Wanderers' dream of a return to the Premier League dwindles. Investment in Neil Lennon's playing squad has been sparse this summer. Brentford Company name: Brentford FC Ltd Owned by: Matthew Benham, a betting industry tycoon and owner of Danish side FC Midtjylland Turnover: £3.3m (£3.9m) Pre-tax loss: £8.7m (-£4.5m) Net debt: £19.2m Wages and salaries: £8.9m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Levy + Partners Y/E: 30 June 2014 After reaching the playoffs last season, the Bees will be hoping to go one better this time around and make the step up to the Premier League under new manager Marinus Dijkhuizen. A season of Championship football and its associated TV money will have increased 2015's turnover significantly. Brighton & Hove Albion Company name: Brighton & Hove Albion Holdings Owned by: Tony Bloom, a sports bettor and property investor Turnover: £24m (£23.4m) Pre-tax loss: £10.6m (-£15.3m) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £62.5m Wages and salaries: £18m Auditor: Mazars Y/E: 30 June 2014 Brighton remain reliant on investment from Tony Bloom – all loans are owed to him and are interest-free. He continues to cover the club's ongoing losses and is committed to funding future losses as the Seagulls seek promotion under Chris Hughton. Bristol City Company name: Bristol City Holdings Owned by: Pula Sport, owned by billionaire and Hargreaves Lansdown co-founder Steve Lansdown Turnover: £6.1m (9.9m) Pre-tax loss: £9.5m (-£13m) Net debt: £25.6m Wages and salaries: £9.9m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Deloitte Y/E: 31 May 2014 The newly promoted club have a £20m interest-free loan from Lansdown, who continues to bankroll the Cherries. In April he revealed he hopes to take the club to the Premier League at the first time of asking and recent multimillion-pound bids for the likes of Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle suggest he is willing to put his money where his mouth is. Burnley Company name: Burnley Football & Athletic Company Owned by: Chairman Mike Garlick holds a 31.2 per cent stake, while directors including John Banaszkiewicz and Brendan Flood also have shares Turnover: £15.5m (£15.3m) Pre-tax loss: £7.9m (-£7.6m) Net debt: £4.6m Wages and salaries: £18.8m Bank: Lloyds Auditor: Cassons Business Advisers Y/E: 30 June 2014 Despite suffering relegation from the Premier League, the club's balance sheet will have been significantly strengthened by their season mixing it with football's elite. Parachute payments this year will mean Sean Dyche's side are better placed to challenge for promotion than most. Cardiff City Company name: Cardiff City Football Club Owned by: Vincent Tan, the Malaysian businessman Turnover: £79.9m (£14.6m) Pre-tax loss: £11.7m (-£31m) Net debt: £81.1m Wages and salaries: £46.7m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Cvr Global Y/E: 31 May 2014 The Bluebirds stemmed losses during the season under review, which covered their 2013/14 Premier League campaign, but the cash owed to chairman Vincent Tan continued to rise. The club's current liabilities – including sums owed to "overseas shareholders and associated undertakings" – totalled an eye watering £174m. Charlton Athletic Company name: Charlton Athletic Football Company Owned by: Staprix NV, a company registered in Belgium, which is 95 per cent owned by Roland Duchâtelet Turnover: £12.7m (£11.9m) Pre-tax loss: £5.7m (-£6m) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £44.1m Wages and salaries: £10.4m Auditor: Nyman Libson Paul Y/E: 30 June 2014 A total of £31m worth of debt was owed to parent company Baton 2010 Ltd, while former chairman Richard Murray and other ex-directors were owed £7m. The sale of Joe Gomez to Liverpool will no doubt help to balance the books in 2015/16. Derby County Company name: The Derby County Football Club Owned by: GSE Group and chairman Mel Morris, who has made billions through King Digital Entertainment Turnover: £20.2m (£15.4m) Pre-tax loss: £7.1m (-£7.1m) Net debt: £14.6m Wages and salaries: £14.5m Bank: The Co-operative Bank Auditor: Smith Cooper Y/E: 30 June 2014 Derby chief executive Sam Rush insists the club is now debt free aside from the £15m mortgage on the iPro Stadium. With the financial clout of Candy Crush tycoon Mel Morris, the Rams should be in contention for a return to the Premier League come next May. Fulham Company name: Fulham Football Club Owned by: Shahid Khan, a US-based billionaire who also owns Jacksonville Jaguars in the NFL, via Cougar Holdco London Ltd and Bermuda investment company Big Cat Holdings Turnover: £91.3m (£73m) Pre-tax loss: £33m (-£2.7m) Net debt: £24m Wages and salaries: £60.4m Bank: Santander Auditor: KPMG Y/E: 30 June 2014 It's little over two years since Shahid Khan bought Fulham from Mohamed Al Fayed – then a Premier League club. Although there was an exodus of players last summer, the Cottagers splashed out about £18m on players over the past 12 months, although recouped about £11m through the sale of Patrick Roberts. Khan has vowed to support the club financially despite a cut in parachute payments this season. Huddersfield Town Company name: The Huddersfield Town Association Football Club Owned by: Dean Hoyle, founder of discount greeting cards chain Card Factory Turnover: £10.8m (£11.3m) Pre-tax loss: £6.8m (-£4m) Net debt: £37.4m Wages and salaries: £11.8m Bank: Lloyds Bank Auditor: Revell Ward Y/E: 31 May 2014 Dean Hoyle, who founded Card Factory with his wife Janet in 1997, continues to bankroll the Terriers and at the year-end converted £3.5m of his existing loans to share capital. The multimillionaire has now loaned the club more than £37m since joining in April 2008. Huddersfield's losses for their most recent financial year are expected to be in the region of £6m. Hull City Company name: Hull City Tigers Owned by: Allamhouse Ltd, the business behind the interests of Assem Allam Turnover: £88.5m (£11.1m) Pre-tax profit: £9.4m (-£25.6m) Net debt: £64.8m Wages and salaries: £38.6m Bank: Lloyds Bank Auditor: Jacksons Y/E: 30 June 2014 Promotion to the Premier League instantly inflated the club's turnover and allowed them to cut net debt by £8m and turn a profit. The 2015 year-end figures are expected to make for similar reading, although Steve Bruce's side are currently facing up to life outside of the top division. Parachute payments will help, as will the multimillion-pound sales of Tom Ince, James Chester and Robert Brady. Ipswich Town Company name: Ipswich Town Football Club Company Owned by: Marcus Evans through the Isle of Man-registered Marcus Evans Worldwide Holdings (IOM) Turnover: £13.6m (£15m) Pre-tax loss: £7.2m (-£9.8m) Net debt: £82.4m Wages and salaries: £13.9m Bank: Barclays Bank Auditor: KPMG Y/E: 30 June 2014 Ipswich are not in debt to any financial institution with all loans owed to Marcus Evans, the conference and events entrepreneur who has a reported wealth of £765m. In the 2014/15 financial year, Evans transferred ownership of the club from a Bermuda-registered business to one in the Isle of Man. Leeds United Company name: Leeds United Football Club Owned by: Massimo Cellino's Eleonora Sport (75 per cent); Gulf Finance House (21.43 per cent); Leeds City Holdings [75 per cent owned by Eleonora and 25 per cent by GFH] (3.57 per cent) Turnover: £25.3m (£28.6m) Pre-tax loss: £20.3m (-£9.4m) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £20.9m owed to GFH Capital; Eleonora Sport is owed £8.4m; Cellino is owed £1.3m; and Eleonora Immobiliaire is owed £2.5m Wages and salaries: £20.1m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Gibson Booth Y/E: 30 June 2014 Leeds' accounts make for complicated and pretty grim reading. The club lost a staggering £20.3m as falling gate receipts and TV revenue contributed to a drop in turnover. Cellino, who this year served a Football League ban after failing its 'owners' and directors' test', has since claimed Leeds were close to break-even in 2014-15 with their wage bill down to £10.5m. If Leeds get promoted before 2017-18, they will have to pay £4.75m to the liquidator of Leeds United Association Football Club Ltd. Middlesbrough Company name: Middlesbrough Football & Athletic Company (1986) Owned by: Gibson O'Neill Company, which is itself wholly owned by Steve Gibson and Mike O'Neill Turnover: £12.8m (£14.2m) Pre-tax loss: £20.4m (-£18.5m) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £76m Wages and salaries: £14.4m Bank: Barclays Auditor: PwC Y/E: 30 June 2014 Lifelong Boro' fan Steve Gibson, a multimillionaire through his Bulkhaul logistics business, continues to bankroll the club which are dependent on his support. Clearly intent on promotion, he has continued to back Aitor Karanka's side in the transfer market and will expect them to be challenging come May. The loans totalling £76m are all owed to Gibson. Milton Keynes Dons Company name: Milton Keynes Dons Owned by: InterMK Group Ltd, which is wholly owned by Pete Winkelman. Turnover: £4.4m (£5.3m) Pre-tax loss: £1.7m (-£2.5m) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £10.3m Wages and salaries: £3.5m Bank: Santander Auditor: Deloitte Y/E: 30 June 2014 MK Dons remain reliant on Pete Winkleman, the businessman who was involved in relocating Wimbledon FC to Milton Keynes in 2001. Karl Robinson's side are currently adjusting well to life in the Championship and can expect a turnover jump in their current financial year. Nottingham Forest Company name: NFFC Group Holdings Owned by: Fawaz Mubarak Abdulaziz Al-Hasawi and Abdulaziz Mubarak Al-Hasawi Turnover: £16.5m (£15.4m) Pre-tax loss: £23.9m (-£8m) Net debt: £46.1m Wages and salaries: £24m Auditor: Baldwins Y/E: 31 May 2014 The Al-Hasawi family provided additional loans of £24.8m during the year to help support the near £24m loss. The Football League imposed a transfer embargo last December which has restricted manager Dougie Freedman from reshaping his squad this summer in the way he would've perhaps liked. Preston North End Company name: Preston North End Ltd Owned by: Wordon Group, a company incorporated in the Isle of Man and controlled by the family interests of Trevor Hemmings Turnover: £6.1m (£5.8m) Pre-tax profit: £16.4m (-£1m) Net cash: £590,000 Wages and salaries: £5.7m Auditor: KPMG Y/E: 30 June 2014 Trevor Hemmings, who became the joint most-successful Grand National owner when his horse Many Clouds sealed victory in April, has slashed North End's debt by more than £50m since delisting them from AIM in 2010 after 15 years as a public company. During the 2013-14 financial year, £18.7m of debt was waived and £15m was issued for the release of shares, representing a reduction in debt of £34.2m. Queens Park Rangers Company name: Queens Park Rangers Football & Athletic Club Owned by: Tune QPR, registered in Malaysia and owned by Tony Fernandes, Kamarudin Bin Meranun and Ruben Emir Gnanalingam (66 per cent); and Sea Dream, the family holding of Lakshmi Mittal (33 per cent) Turnover: £38.7m (£60.6m) Pre-tax loss: £9.8m (-£65.4m) Net debt: £179.6m Wages and salaries: £66.4m Bank: Royal Bank of Scotland Auditor: Chantrey Vellacott DFK Y/E: 31 May 2014 Air Asia tycoon Tony Fernandes and steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal wrote off loans worth £60m during the year, but QPR's accounts nevertheless make for grim reading. After years of overspending, the club's relegation from the Premier League last season means they face a battle to cut costs and Fernandes has signalled that the days of heavy investment on new players is over. Reading Company name: Reading Football Club Ltd Owned by: GPT Football Investment and GPT UK Investment, owned by Narin Niruttinanon (50 per cent); RFC UK Investment owned by Sasima Srivikorn (25 per cent); Universal UK Investment, owned by Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth (25 per cent) Turnover: £38.1m (£59.3m) Pre-tax loss: £7.3m (-£2.3m) Net debt: £47.1m Wages and salaries: £30.1m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Myers Clark Y/E: 30 June 2014 Narin Niruttinanon and his Thai consortium took control at Madejski Stadium in September 2014 and has since admitted it was difficult to "actually understand the magnitude" of how much needed to be committed to the club. However, he said the financial situation is now "getting better". Reading's parachute payment this season is about £8m. Rotherham United Company name: Rotherham United Football Club (RUFC) Ltd Owned by: ASD Lighting Holdings, owned by Tony and Joan Stewart (88 per cent); Brian Becket, Ronald Hull and Lelsie Wilson (3.92 per cent each) Turnover: £11m (£7.1m) Pre-tax profit: £167,212 (-£477,023) Net debt: Not stated Total loans: £172,000 owed to ASD Wages and salaries: £4.8m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Montpelier Y/E: 31 December 2014 Tony Stewart took over at The Millers seven years ago from administrations and has helped to steer them to a secure financial footing. After four years playing home games in Sheffield, their 12,000-seater New York Stadium is this season hosting its second consecutive year of Championship football. Stewart has pumped more than £30m in over the last seven years. Sheffield Wednesday Company name: Sheffield Wednesday Football Club Owned by: Dejphon Chansiri, whose family controls the Thai Union Frozen Group, the world's largest producer of tuna Turnover: £13.9m (£14.9m) Pre-tax loss: £5.6m (-£3.7m) Net debt: £12.7m Wages and salaries: £11.1m Auditor: BHP Chartered Accountants Y/E: 31 May 2014 Dejphon Chansiri took over the Owls from Milan Mandaric in January in a £30m deal and is targeting promotion within the next two years. He has said the club are now debt free and has backed Carlos Carvalhal in the transfer market this summer, bringing in the likes of Marco Matias and Lucas João. Wolverhampton Wanderers Company name: W.W. (1990) Ltd Owned by: Redrow founder Steve Morgan through Bridgemere UK plc Turnover: £32.6m (£32.1m) Pre-tax profit: £8.5m (-£33.1m) Net funds: £7m Wages and salaries: £17.9m Bank: Barclays Auditor: Deloitte Y/E: 31 May 2014 After two successive relegations, Wolves secured promotion from League One at the first time of asking and enjoyed a successful 2014-15 season back in the Championship. In the 2013-14 financial year, the club incurred an actual pre-tax loss of £1.7m but due the release of a £10.2m provision a final pre-tax profit of £8.5m was declared. Steve Morgan continues to bankroll the club as they seek a Premier League return under Kenny Jackett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 QPR and Cardiff's figures are insane. Both deserve administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Brentford at 260% of turnover and Forest at 150% took my eye. Some of the figures are just plain unsustainable without the parachute ££. A few clubs could be in deep trouble if they aren't careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Our income seems to cover everything apart from the players wages, so if we could get them to play for nothing we'd break even! I guess our turnover will rise quite a bit this year now we're back in the Championship, but it's difficult to see how the club could ever make a profit outside the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 4 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Our income seems to cover everything apart from the players wages, so if we could get them to play for nothing we'd break even! I guess our turnover will rise quite a bit this year now we're back in the Championship, but it's difficult to see how the club could ever make a profit outside the Prem. I would imagine the corporate stuff will push the turnover up. Just look at the clubs that have some of those facilities, their turnover is way above ours. Look at Reading, no parachute payment, similar crowds but a turnover of £38M!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 1 minute ago, ciderup said: I would imagine the corporate stuff will push the turnover up. Just look at the clubs that have some of those facilities, their turnover is way above ours. The ones with the really large turnovers are the ones getting parachute payments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 3 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: The ones with the really large turnovers are the ones getting parachute payments I appreciate that AF but not all of them. Even Rotherham have a substantially higher turnover than us on smaller crowds and I don't think Reading get PP anymore do they? What on earth are Cardiff going to do next year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 1 minute ago, ciderup said: I appreciate that AF but not all of them. Even Rotherham have a substantially higher turnover than us on smaller crowds and I don't think Reading get PP anymore do they? What on earth are Cardiff going to do next year?? Rotherham have a larger turnover because they were in the Championship last season while we were in L1, Reading were relegated in 2013 so still on parachute money last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 As BS have said, they want these new facilities used on over 300 days a year. That must have a big effect on our turnover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 6 minutes ago, ciderup said: As BS have said, they want these new facilities used on over 300 days a year. That must have a big effect on our turnover? On the turnover of whom? Not a moan or bashing the structure but I think our accounts more likely will look rather familiar for a while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 4 minutes ago, 29AR said: On the turnover of whom? Not a moan or bashing the structure but I think our accounts more likely will look rather familiar for a while yet. True. BS doesn't necessarily mean BCFC, I forgot that. I put this up as a general discussion topic TBH, not just about us as some of the figures are plain shocking! Bolton's are amazingly bad yet they still have a wage bill of £27.5M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 No wonder SL can't pay big wages if he's bankrolling The Cherries as well as us . The mystery Is explainded . Also our turnover shows how important the redevelopment of Ashton Gate is to the ambitions of the club . Will be interesting to see how much it augments . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Our turnover will increase this year but so will our wage bill now we're in the Championship, I can't see any way we can balance the books. Even if you assume the gates go up by 5000 when the new stadium is complete by my reckoning this would only bring in another £4m or so, nowhere near the deficit of nearly £10m we had last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 23, 2015 Admin Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 13 hours ago, ciderup said: In April he revealed he hopes to take the club to the Premier League at the first time of asking Must have missed that quote ! Would be intrigued to see how the blue few North of the river look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Shows the effect of parachute payments. Also, unbelievable that Forest really are so crap despite spending so much. Makes the end of GJs days look positively frugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 48 minutes ago, phantom said: Must have missed that quote ! Would be intrigued to see how the blue few North of the river look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 3 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Our turnover will increase this year but so will our wage bill now we're in the Championship, I can't see any way we can balance the books. Even if you assume the gates go up by 5000 when the new stadium is complete by my reckoning this would only bring in another £4m or so, nowhere near the deficit of nearly £10m we had last season. Is this a photo of Iain Dowie's better looking brothers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 14 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Is this a photo of Iain Dowie's better looking brothers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 18 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Let's be fair , the one on the left is ... no let it go . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 2 hours ago, phantom said: Must have missed that quote ! Would be intrigued to see how the blue few North of the river look Where on earth did that quote come from?? Sorry, see it now! I missed it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonL Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would have thought matchday revenue would have jumped up a lot since the new facilities have been put in. I never used to buy in ground but do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 3 hours ago, phantom said: Must have missed that quote ! I was asking in 2008. Didn't ******* get it mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 2 Things (1) Wolves look in good shape (2) When did we become "The Cherries"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 4 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: (2) When did we become "The Cherries"? A mistake made by a fan of Rotherham United, or the Latics as I believe they are called... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why is our revenue so low? I can understand that it is partially a result of the non-match day activities which we will have going forward. But even when the facilities are in place, I can't see us making £6m from conferences, weddings etc. Is it partly a result of TV money and parachute payments available to Championship clubs? It's amazing that Rotherham have almost double the revenue we do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think the bulk of the figures were taken from the guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 7 minutes ago, Coppello said: Why is our revenue so low? I can understand that it is partially a result of the non-match day activities which we will have going forward. But even when the facilities are in place, I can't see us making £6m from conferences, weddings etc. Is it partly a result of TV money and parachute payments available to Championship clubs? It's amazing that Rotherham have almost double the revenue we do! That caught my eye as well, doesn't seem credible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 4 hours ago, The Gasbuster said: They live just up the road from me,they are twins,brother and sister,and also husband and wife.It's the first time I've seen them without their gas shirts on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 2 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: That caught my eye as well, doesn't seem credible to me. I'm not pretending these are accurate figures Es, I just copied them as they caught my interest. No reason to doubt them but also no reason to believe in their accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why do clubs have parachute payments. Can't they just draw up contracts with relegation clauses in so they are ready for the championship if relegated. Is that to simple an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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