reddogkev Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Just how good is he? With their injury list and lack of resources / small pedigree/ tiny attendances, how on earth are Bournemouth beating Chelsea and Man utd in consecutive games? Now, I'm not usually one for grooming, but time to polish him up for the England job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 He is brilliant but might be waiting a while before the England job if he has any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Great results for Bmouth But As Man Utd and Chelsea sides go They are very average to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 9 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Just how good is he? With their injury list and lack of resources / small pedigree/ tiny attendances, how on earth are Bournemouth beating Chelsea and Man utd in consecutive games? Now, I'm not usually one for grooming, but time to polish him up for the England job! I thought you were going to suggest polishing him up as Steve C's replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Remember Aidy Boothroyd getting similar plaudits when Watford got into Prem. Look what has happened to him. Eddie Howe does look a fine young manager though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I saw today Hodgeson will get an extension til 2018. That gives like the likes of Howe, Neville etc 3 years to build a career to come into the running for the role. If Hodgeson did leave next year the only option surely would of been Pardew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Eddie Howe has done a miracle job for Bournemouth however these two results arent outstanding imo, its easy to get your team fired up for these games and they are two pretty average teams nowadays. For Bournemouth I cant help thinking beating sides like Villa and Sunderland are more important for them to help them beatthe drop and if they avoid it then again he has worked a miracle for that club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Remember Aidy Boothroyd getting similar plaudits when Watford got into Prem. Look what has happened to him. Eddie Howe does look a fine young manager though. Although with Aidy it was only a couple of seasons, Howe has managed to get Bournemouth from near the bottom of what is now League 2 up to the Premier League and at the present time looks like he has a chance of keeping them there - something Boothroyd wasn't able to do at Watford. Howe also has experience of a spell away from Bournemouth, and whilst he hardly set the world alight at Burnley he didn't fail either. If the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool etc weren't so obsessed with getting foreign managers with Champions League experience you would have to say Howe would end up at one of those sort of clubs before England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Is the Premiership weaker at the top or stronger at the bottom? I believe both, so Howe is fortunate this year in one sense. I'd go as far to say that most of the top half of the Championship can compete with most of the bottom half teams in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 This year's Prem is very weak and Bournemouth have spent a small fortune wisely. And he's a decent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Great manager because he doesn't have to deal with a load of over inflated egos each week. Managing Bournemouth is completely different to managing an England team AND the English media who blindly over hype their chances in ever competition. I suspect if he was ever unfortunate to get the poison chalice of the England job i think he'd be found out quite quickly. Personally he should stay well clear and enjoy the well deserved credit for the job he's doing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Looks a decent manager, didn't seem to go so well when there was a bit more pressure on him at Burnley though and that would be my only reservation at the monent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 2 minutes ago, Rob k said: Looks a decent manager, didn't seem to go so well when there was a bit more pressure on him at Burnley though and that would be my only reservation at the monent. He was only about 15 years old then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 46 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Just how good is he? With their injury list and lack of resources / small pedigree/ tiny attendances, how on earth are Bournemouth beating Chelsea and Man utd in consecutive games? Now, I'm not usually one for grooming, but time to polish him up for the England job! Gary Neville being 'polished for that one..FA have definitely earmarked him as future England manager.Howe certainly has something about him but would never be considered whilst at such a 'small club....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 8 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: He was only about 15 years old then! He was young but imo has managed under no weight of expectation. They can have a go at Chelsea and Man united because it doesn't matter if they lose 5-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 16 minutes ago, Rob k said: Looks a decent manager, didn't seem to go so well when there was a bit more pressure on him at Burnley though and that would be my only reservation at the monent. I think he always regretted the decision to leave Bournemouth and go there TBH. He never seemed happy and went back as soon as he could (I can`t remember if he walked or was sacked though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Would like to see the FA invite him to European Championships to watch and get the feeling / experience of an International Camp - if nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 6 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: I think he always regretted the decision to leave Bournemouth and go there TBH. He never seemed happy and went back as soon as he could (I can`t remember if he walked or was sacked though) He left to return to Bournemouth for personal reasons - I might be wrong but may have been that his Mum was very poorly or similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Ah right. Might have explained why it didn`t look as if his heart was entirely in it at Burnley then, stuck at the other end of the country while your mum`s not well isn`t easy. I know, it happened to me and I could go home whenever I needed to, not have to travel with my team to Ipswich or somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 If I was English I'd sooner have anyone than the startled owl in charge. Early days for Howe and Bournemouth but I was so impressed with their composure yesterday. Protected the ball very well at 2-1 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1 hour ago, Stoke_Gifford_Red said: If the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool etc weren't so obsessed with getting foreign managers with Champions League experience you would have to say Howe would end up at one of those sort of clubs before England. I think this is a bit harsh on some of the big clubs. Man Utd employed Moyes who had no champions league experience, Liverpool employed Rogers, Man City had Hughes. Chelsea yes you're right though, but overall I would say you have a decent chance of getting a big club interested in your services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 22 minutes ago, Selred said: I think this is a bit harsh on some of the big clubs. Man Utd employed Moyes who had no champions league experience, Liverpool employed Rogers, Man City had Hughes. Chelsea yes you're right though, but overall I would say you have a decent chance of getting a big club interested in your services.intereste 22 minutes ago, Selred said: I think this is a bit harsh on some of the big clubs. Man Utd employed Moyes who had no champions league experience, Liverpool employed Rogers, Man City had Hughes. Chelsea yes you're right though, but overall I would say you have a decent chance of getting a big club interested in your services. I think all of those are different to Howe though. Moyes had spent over a decade at Everton who are a bigger club than Bournemouth and whilst there had some European experience. From what I understand he was also handpicked by Ferguson to be his successor, but didn't provide the results the Glazer's demanded. Rodgers led Swansea to a mid-table finish before joining Liverpool, who at the time were (relatively) struggling - after some recent success and with the ground expansion I can't see the American owners doing the same again. Hughes was at Man City prior to the investment from Abu Dhabi so is a poor example. I would say I would think Howe would need to go to a traditionally mid-table side (Everton, Newcastle etc) as a stepping stone, however, we will need to see what happens as Howe seems very happy at Bournemouth at present. Plus, with the massive TV money available to all Premier League teams nowadays, gate receipts provide a smaller proportion of club income and therefore if Bournemouth can stay up they could push on ala Leicester or Swansea (previous seasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 He is Bournemouth through and through as you say and they do have history in keeping their `legends` close by (Fletcher etc.). The fans love him and sometimes it`s best to stay where you know you`ll always be well thought of - just like any job really. As always, it will come down to the owners. I can`t see him walking again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Must admit I do like that Bournemouth corner kick routine, they scored from yesterday. Wouldn't mind us trying that occasionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 3 hours ago, Robert the bruce said: Gary Neville being 'polished for that one..FA have definitely earmarked him as future England manager.Howe certainly has something about him but would never be considered whilst at such a 'small club....... Alf Ramsey had a bit of success at that small club Ipswich and the FA snapped him up to be England Manager. Some years later the FA went to Ipswich again for Bobby Robson. In between times, Bill Nicholson (Spurs) and Bertie Mee (Arsenal) both won the double with their clubs and AFAIK were never offered the England job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 He never set the world alight at Burnley though. Sometimes I think a manager and a club just click. Ferguson just clicked at United, Wenger at Arsenal and Howe at Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Can't jump the gun too quickly on this one. After all Gary monk was being touted as a future England manager and for whatever reason he just couldn't make it work this season. If anyone should be looked at for the next England manager, despite his nationality, it must be Claudio Tinkerman. He has gone beyond anyones expectations could've imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Unless it was someone like Guardiola I can`t see England going foreign again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeeebles Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Lose the next 8 games and he will be a**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 5 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: He is brilliant but might be waiting a while before the England job if he has any sense. Forget the England job, he's biding his time until Cotts goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 37 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: Can't jump the gun too quickly on this one. After all Gary monk was being touted as a future England manager and for whatever reason he just couldn't make it work this season. If anyone should be looked at for the next England manager, despite his nationality, it must be Claudio Tinkerman. He has gone beyond anyones expectations could've imagined. If you were to look at all the clubs in England and rank them in order of biggest to smallest, neither Swansea or Bournemouth would be in the top 20 in my opinion so I think for that season Monk was doing a very good job and Howe is doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Remember Aidy Boothroyd getting similar plaudits when Watford got into Prem. Look what has happened to him. Eddie Howe does look a fine young manager though. Don't remember Aidy taking Watford from the fourth division... And they were only out of the bottom 3 for 3 games all season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Reminds me of the furore around Gary Monk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1 hour ago, 22A said: Alf Ramsey had a bit of success at that small club Ipswich and the FA snapped him up to be England Manager. Some years later the FA went to Ipswich again for Bobby Robson. In between times, Bill Nicholson (Spurs) and Bertie Mee (Arsenal) both won the double with their clubs and AFAIK were never offered the England job. Clough too. Back to back European cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 27 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: Don't remember Aidy taking Watford from the fourth division... And they were only out of the bottom 3 for 3 games all season! Yeah, was just trying to make the comparison that they mentioned Boothroyd as FEM for that brief spell Watford went up. Think Howe has much more in his locker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Howe will in all likely hood get found out next season and either get the sack or take them down. So many small clubs get up and have a great season then get over hyped...Phil brown, Paul lambert, holloway, monk, Rogers etc. Fairplay Bournemouth have had really big backing and used it wisely and Howe can take a lot of credit. But who's to say having the biggest wage bill in the championship last season (I'm sure I read that) would not of lead to promotion with out him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 17 minutes ago, sodburyred said: Howe will in all likely hood get found out next season and either get the sack or take them down. So many small clubs get up and have a great season then get over hyped...Phil brown, Paul lambert, holloway, monk, Rogers etc. Fairplay Bournemouth have had really big backing and used it wisely and Howe can take a lot of credit. But who's to say having the biggest wage bill in the championship last season (I'm sure I read that) would not of lead to promotion with out him. City fans get upset when other teams say we have big backing and then we do it to others. Their nett transfer spends over the last few years: 2012 - £400k 2013 - £3m 2014 - £0m 2015 - £23m The £23m is not a lot compared to others in the league. And their wage bill in the Championship was not in the top six. Howe has done an incredible job playing amazing football and doesn't deserve to be compared to Boothroyd in any way at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 5 hours ago, daored said: Must admit I do like that Bournemouth corner kick routine, they scored from yesterday. Wouldn't mind us trying that occasionally It was just emulating Jamie McAllister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I really don't know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cider city red 81 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 15 hours ago, reddogkev said: Just how good is he? With their injury list and lack of resources / small pedigree/ tiny attendances, how on earth are Bournemouth beating Chelsea and Man utd in consecutive games? Now, I'm not usually one for grooming, but time to polish him up for the England job! He won't come here, unless we get to premier league, and if we have done that without him then there will be no need to have him here. Just because Bournemouth are a smaller club than us doesn't mean he will want to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 6 minutes ago, cider city red 81 said: He won't come here, unless we get to premier league, and if we have done that without him then there will be no need to have him here. Just because Bournemouth are a smaller club than us doesn't mean he will want to come Who said anything about getting him here?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 How anyone can say that the results against Chelsea and Manchester Utd weren't AMAZING results are mad. You do realise that the back four that played in those games are the same back four that played in league one, right? Everyone bangs on about Arsenals and Manchester United's injury lists, but look at Bournemouth's!!! You don't hear Eddie Howe crying about it, however. Yes Bournemouth have got some money now, but actually know more than what we've got and look what a mess we've made of it. In my opinion, Eddie Howe is going to be one of the best homegrown managers this Country has ever produced. Huge statement I know, but I seriously think that. We'll have to wait and see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 On the subject of Bournemouth total respect to Harry Arter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 2 hours ago, Super said: On the subject of Bournemouth total respect to Harry Arter. Absolutely. I really don't know how I would have felt and what I would have done in similar circumstances. My initial thoughts are that I would probably not have wished to leave the comfort of my home and family, especially my wife, but it may have been a good idea psychologically to have thrown everything in to such a high profile match, it was home to Man UTD after all in front of a packed stadium, in order to take my mind of such a tragedy, if only temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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