Chairman Mao Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 well, after the lack of subs a side effect of this will be we have some seriously tired players out there. Probably need wholesale changes for Burnley? Fielding Little - Moore/Ayling - Flint - Baker - Williams Smith Ried - Pack Cox - Kodjia/Agard depends on who is feeling it I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Why discuss? It will be same lineup as always and no subs will be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: Why discuss? It will be same lineup as always and no subs will be made Don't forget the formation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derk94 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Bobby has to play. Yes he lacks a lot from his game, but he is the only player capable of playing our strikers through on goal. Freeman has been utter pants and we aren't getting much luck from crosses into the box either. Cotterill needs to stop being so stubborn with team selection if he wants to keep his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Freeman has played well the last 2 games! Why drop him just as he's coming into form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 hours ago, BarnzFM said: Freeman has played well the last 2 games! Why drop him just as he's coming into form? And Joe too. Just getting back to something like his best. I suppose it will come down to an offensive/defensive decision in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I'd like to see Cox start. If he does, he will score..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 SC said on radio drizzle after game no reason to change team after that performance. Going to be Burnleys easiest home game of the season. We will probably hold out for 30 minutes then they will go on to win 3/4-0/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Well we changed it all around at Derby and look how that went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 6 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Well we changed it all around at Derby and look how that went only reason he changed the team that game is SC written that game off before it started, shame he didn't tell the 400 plus fans who travelled on a Tuesday night that he had given up. Disgraceful. But its games like yesterday that get u relegated not defeats away at derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 9 hours ago, ciderbeans said: Why discuss? It will be same lineup as always and no subs will be made Pretty sure we haven't named an unchanged team in the last four.. Anyway with all the rain in the North surely it will be off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 7 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Pretty sure we haven't named an unchanged team in the last four.. Anyway with all the rain in the North surely it will be off? Personally think that could be the best for us TBH. Going to a top side after the debacle of yesterday is not what I`d want. Also, the rearranged game would be after the January window. Wait and see though, it`ll be the only game that`s on in the whole north west. Turf Moor`s fairly high above sea level (397 ft/118m according to wiki). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Obvious now that freeman is undroppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 7 minutes ago, Super said: Obvious now that freeman is undroppable. It may be that he was, but surely that comes down to letting a player who always puts in 100% play himself back into his best form. Either way he doesn't deserve to be dropped on yesterday's performance. The double skinning of that Charlton player by the touchline brought the loudest roars of approval from the crowd for individual skill since Jet left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Shame Freeman can't bring 'loud roars of approval' with goals really. 39 games at Ashton Gate, 0 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, Spoons said: only reason he changed the team that game is SC written that game off before it started, shame he didn't tell the 400 plus fans who travelled on a Tuesday night that he had given up. Disgraceful. But its games like yesterday that get u relegated not defeats away at derby. Maybe but Derby were in a similar spot to Burnley now when we played them, so why would he treat this one differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, The Horse With No Name said: Maybe but Derby were in a similar spot to Burnley now when we played them, so why would he treat this one differently? because he said on the radio after game no changes. I don't know what or why SC thinks like he does. Massive two away games coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Take a day off and let's see what Pemberton can do (actually, is he still here ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeeebles Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 33 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Take a day off and let's see what Pemberton can do (actually, is he still here ) And if he loses you'll be calling for his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Don't let us be negative give Pembo at least a chance after the appalling Derby match where SC seemed to have lost the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If folks don't like the idea of Pemberton then take Bullbag's suggestion above and play the Academy. I would just add and play Wade as player/manager And if this all seems far fetched then The Board must do the blinding obvious and sack SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 3 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: It may be that he was, but surely that comes down to letting a player who always puts in 100% play himself back into his best form. Either way he doesn't deserve to be dropped on yesterday's performance. The double skinning of that Charlton player by the touchline brought the loudest roars of approval from the crowd for individual skill since Jet left. He also played well against QPR, and I don't doubt the effort he applies, but it is becoming clear he is simply not going to be as effective at this level as he was in league one; it's a simple case of he not having the pace and/or physical presence to play the role he is occupying for us. He also doesn't create nor threaten the goal anywhere near enough, and we are not in a position to be waiting on him finding either form, another yard of pace or the physical capabilities to impose himself on the opposition. Bobby Reid must be cursing his luck after some impressive and effective cameos in Freeman's absence seem to have done nothing to give him a chance to show what he might be able to do in that role, and even then we need someone with more experience to help us out now. And for what it is worth; Freeman having impressive footwork in his locker is good, but it counts for less than nothing if it doesn't result in something meaningful in terms of goal threat. He's an excellent player, but currently I think we need true competition for him, as he's not doing what is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Assuming no injuries, and having not seen yesterday's performance I'd go with: Fielding Ayling, Flint, Baker Little, Bennett, Pack, Smith, Bryan Burns, Kodjia Cox can't play the game after, and Wilbs played 90 v Charlton, so let Wes start and stretch them. Burnley aren't an overly pacy team. Freeman given a rest, Bennett's energy in the middle 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 7 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: It may be that he was, but surely that comes down to letting a player who always puts in 100% play himself back into his best form. Either way he doesn't deserve to be dropped on yesterday's performance. The double skinning of that Charlton player by the touchline brought the loudest roars of approval from the crowd for individual skill since Jet left. Agree - Freeman has been much better in the last couple of games and deserves to keep his place against Burnley. This doesn't stop Reid from being brought on if need be - although whether Cotts would do this is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thought this might interest some; decided to take a look at the starting line ups and subs/sub times of our four victories this season - interesting that in each case we used all three subs, with the first always with at least ten minutes to play, and in all cases with us defending leads. Not really many patterns to it, but have added in our % of possession too, as we've ended a lot of games we've drawn or lost with the majority of this, yet never had more than half in the games we've won. Not a large sample to use, but what with the discussions over where to go from here, thought it might fuel things. Huddersfield 2-1 away win (31%); Fielding, Bennett, Ayling, Flint, Moore, Bryan, Smith, Freeman (Little 89), Pack, Wilbraham (Agard 75), Kodjia (Cox 78) Wolves 1-0 home win (50%); Fielding, Bennett (Little 78), Ayling, Flint, Baker, Williams, Smith, Freeman (Moore 90), Pack, Agard (Wilbraham 81), Kodjia Nottingham Forest 2-0 home win (47%); Fielding, Bennett (Little 90), Ayling, Flint, Baker, Williams (Bryan 76), Smith, Freeman (Reid 82), Pack, Wilbraham, Kodjia Middlesbrough 1-0 away win (31%); Hamer, Little (Fredericks 70), Ayling, Flint, Williams, Bryan, Pack, Smith, Reid (Wagstaff 78), Wilbraham, Kodjia (Burns 62) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 33 minutes ago, samo II said: Thought this might interest some; decided to take a look at the starting line ups and subs/sub times of our four victories this season - interesting that in each case we used all three subs, with the first always with at least ten minutes to play, and in all cases with us defending leads. Not really many patterns to it, but have added in our % of possession too, as we've ended a lot of games we've drawn or lost with the majority of this, yet never had more than half in the games we've won. Not a large sample to use, but what with the discussions over where to go from here, thought it might fuel things. Huddersfield 2-1 away win (31%); Fielding, Bennett, Ayling, Flint, Moore, Bryan, Smith, Freeman (Little 89), Pack, Wilbraham (Agard 75), Kodjia (Cox 78) Wolves 1-0 home win (50%); Fielding, Bennett (Little 78), Ayling, Flint, Baker, Williams, Smith, Freeman (Moore 90), Pack, Agard (Wilbraham 81), Kodjia Nottingham Forest 2-0 home win (47%); Fielding, Bennett (Little 90), Ayling, Flint, Baker, Williams (Bryan 76), Smith, Freeman (Reid 82), Pack, Wilbraham, Kodjia Middlesbrough 1-0 away win (31%); Hamer, Little (Fredericks 70), Ayling, Flint, Williams, Bryan, Pack, Smith, Reid (Wagstaff 78), Wilbraham, Kodjia (Burns 62) Yes I've been wondering about having too much possession and losing. It sounds odd but so many teams in the championship seem to win, or get away draws with less of the possession. It seems playing a waiting game, keeping things tight and then hitting on the break is very effective. I've nothing to back it up but I'm sure we even had as much possession if not more than Fulham when they went 4-0 up. We seemed to be playing well, they'd get the ball, attack, score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 We get the ball, attack, miss......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Does it really matter who plays? It's like moving the deckchairs around on The Titanic Remember who was mainly at fault for that disaster - the man in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 19 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Does it really matter who plays? It's like moving the deckchairs around on The Titanic Remember who was mainly at fault for that disaster - the man in charge @Ivorguy - any other insight to our problems other than Cotts? Perhaps he is the ONLY problem. Is that your view, that Cotts is solely to blame? Personally I think our problems are more widespread than just our Manager. Despite this I still think we'll stay up. Cotts has his faults, but he also has strengths too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: @Ivorguy - any other insight to our problems other than Cotts? Perhaps he is the ONLY problem. Is that your view, that Cotts is solely to blame? Personally I think our problems are more widespread than just our Manager. Despite this I still think we'll stay up. Cotts has his faults, but he also has strengths too. I think you'll find the titanic disaster wasn't helped by either the Captain or Bruce Ismay who was on the board of White Star Line, quite an apt analogy I think. Egos and faults throughout the entire organisation culminating in a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Of course one survived..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 22 hours ago, Spoons said: only reason he changed the team that game is SC written that game off before it started, shame he didn't tell the 400 plus fans who travelled on a Tuesday night that he had given up. Disgraceful. But its games like yesterday that get u relegated not defeats away at derby. Spot on, with both points. It's the failure to pick up wins / points against Charlton, MK Dons at home, Preston, rotherham away that will have the biggest bearing on our season. Having said that confidence at burnley must be low, on a poor run and a big defeat Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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