Aizoon Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: If the police get up to no good and treat you illegally /unfairly then film it. And get it into cyberspace ASAP before they nick/break your phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 With elections due soon for Bristol Mayor and A&S Police Commissioner after years and years of WMPolice/City Fan controversy the time couldn't have been better to have tried to get George F and Sue Mount Stevens to travel incognito with a Club/SCaT delegation on a supporters train/coach etc to witness first hand what may or may not occur at the hands of WMP. If genuine reason to complain regarding treatment of travelling fans is witnessed, publicised and official complaints filed by the respective offices there's little doubt people that matter would be forced to acknowledge, respond & act upon such allegations and complaints. Its a shame something like this hasn't been arranged (I presume?) as politically the timing could only benefit both incumbents in upcoming elections... can't think of a better 'lever' or persuader than the possibility of increasing favourable public perceptions and influencing several thousand potential ballot papers for people in GFs and SM's position to get involved. Too late now, maybe one for the future? .... Nothing will change in the WMP tactics unless high profile publicity highlights the over zealous (borderline illegal activities) of some within their ranks.. decent football fans deserve decent treatment, no better or worse than any other members of the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: True. Not sure this is true to be honest. Actually seen it done,PC refused,was then asked to get his commanding officer,he didn't like it one bit,but took name and address of person filmed who later received a copy in the post.Wether the law has changed since then I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modmuffin Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Film everything imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 For me personally the police's job is to police. Just because I go to a football match does not make me a hooligan or a criminal. If there is disorder or people playing up then I support the police taking action. However, sending a note / memo or whatever like that is just wrong. Do they issue this every week night to those people or go out for a drink in Birmingham city centre, or any other city centre in the west Midlands? Sure they have disorder on a weekend night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I have recently sat across a table from a Police officer in a police station actively encouraging me to wear a body camera and covertly film somebody who they wanted to arrest for crimes against me. He explained in detail how to cover the red light which showed it was recording and explained 'we do it all the timeespecially in crowds, down town and at football matches'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 They need to wake up "minority" there's 5,300 going and there will be 10% that if provoked or get the opportunity will wick right off. Id imagine like BRum earlier this season, we will have an escort all the way, be stop and searched at least twice and the coaches made clear of any alcohol or be turned back, then you've got the unwitnessed coach search where it's been rumoured that drugs have been planted in order to send the coached back to Bristol. Itl will undoubtedly kick off, proved by the scum that are WMP, coked up of their tits looking to strike out at anyone over 3 years olds, old ladies and women watch out especially, this lot are more cowardly than the Gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 34 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: They need to wake up "minority" there's 5,300 going and there will be 10% that if provoked or get the opportunity will wick right off. Id imagine like BRum earlier this season, we will have an escort all the way, be stop and searched at least twice and the coaches made clear of any alcohol or be turned back, then you've got the unwitnessed coach search where it's been rumoured that drugs have been planted in order to send the coached back to Bristol. Itl will undoubtedly kick off, proved by the scum that are WMP, coked up of their tits looking to strike out at anyone over 3 years olds, old ladies and women watch out especially, this lot are more cowardly than the Gas. Surely 530 is a minority though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: They need to wake up "minority" there's 5,300 going and there will be 10% that if provoked or get the opportunity will wick right off. Id imagine like BRum earlier this season, we will have an escort all the way, be stop and searched at least twice and the coaches made clear of any alcohol or be turned back, then you've got the unwitnessed coach search where it's been rumoured that drugs have been planted in order to send the coached back to Bristol. Itl will undoubtedly kick off, proved by the scum that are WMP, coked up of their tits looking to strike out at anyone over 3 years olds, old ladies and women watch out especially, this lot are more cowardly than the Gas. Putting my profession and employer to one side... You'll excuse me if I find the above a little rich coming from the poster I most associate with football hooliganism. Over the years (in your many guises) you've spouted an awful lot of pro hooligan/anti police ramblings. The message put out is largely because of people like you. So please don't come the victim and talk so much shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ferret Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Tomarse said: Don't let them convince you that they can make you delete any footage/imagery either, they have no powers to do so. Make sure your wi-fi is on and upload any footage to the Cloud automatically Then even if they delete the footage from your phone you still secretly have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 37 minutes ago, Red Ferret said: Make sure your wi-fi is on and upload any footage to the Cloud automatically Then even if they delete the footage from your phone you still secretly have it Well it is against the law for a member of the police force to delete any content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ferret Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 It's also against the law for them to batter innocent people around for no reason but they still do it Be prepared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 51 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Putting my profession and employer to one side... You'll excuse me if I find the above a little rich coming from the poster I most associate with football hooliganism. Over the years (in your many guises) you've spouted an awful lot of pro hooligan/anti police ramblings. The message put out is largely because of people like you. So please don't come the victim and talk so much shit. Why is the message put out then? It appears deliberately antagonistic and designed to create an 'us and them' tension between supporters and police. Do they post warning messages to shops selling vest tops that "wife beaters" will face legal action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 hours ago, daored said: For me personally the police's job is to police. Just because I go to a football match does not make me a hooligan or a criminal. If there is disorder or people playing up then I support the police taking action. However, sending a note / memo or whatever like that is just wrong. Do they issue this every week night to those people or go out for a drink in Birmingham city centre, or any other city centre in the west Midlands? Sure they have disorder on a weekend night? As I discovered on my last trip to Birmingham, you are not allowed to drink in the city centre streets, further confirming what a festering cess pit Birmingham is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Just now, OddBallJim said: As I discovered on my last trip to Birmingham, you are not allowed to drink in the city centre streets, further confirming what a festering cess pit Birmingham is. Did you not get the memo from west Midlands police when you booked hotel, train tickets. Thought it was a compulsory memo all visitors receive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I know a number of fans who were innocently turned away from the Birmingham game earlier this season and the majority of them have chosen to give this game a miss, 100% because of the actions of the West Midlands ****stabulary that day. It's great that we have 5,300 going, cuz we're missing at least 3 dozen who are regular away travellers who aren't going to this one, myself included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Surely 530 is a minority though? Indeed it is. But 530 having a go is an almighty ruck. Can't say I'm looking forward to this........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Possibly deja vu (all over again)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 7 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Late 70s?! Play offs didn't exist until 1987. Assume you meant the 1988 play offs vs Walsall? That was mayhem.... Didn't go (no idea why not), but this lady in the video wasn't happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 12 hours ago, Tomarse said: When are we going to get the first story of wrongful arrest/heavy handedness? I'm going for about 4.49pm on Sat. Wasn't it pre kickoff at Brum this season and Walsall some years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I would imagine being a copper can be a very tough job. However, my previous experiences with the West Midlands police force at football leads me to believe you lot are in for a spot of bother whether you want it or not. I read that message as 'We're right up for this one' Good luck to those travelling tomorrow (except on the pitch obviously!) And can I just add btw, I was chatting to a City mate today who tells me you are taking over 5000 tomorrow, which I admit is pretty impressive, and may even get close to what we will be taking to Barnet tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 12 hours ago, Southampton Red said: So basically saying that city fans are going to be kettled together together in a police escort as soon as we arrive in Birmingham. What a fun day out this is going to be... Possibly better than being allowed to freely enjoy Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 14 hours ago, Tomarse said: When are we going to get the first story of wrongful arrest/heavy handedness? I'm going for about 4.49pm on Sat. .....expecting a number of 'off the cuff' (& in 'em) remarks throughout the day tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 They sound like my kind of people. Fly them over to Pyongyang, i've got a job or two for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yep, think we've all had a few run ins with that mob and know what to expect! I now always film on my phone at the first sign of any heavy 'policing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I see this has already been mentioned. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 7 hours ago, finbarr_in_zurich said: Didn't go (no idea why not), but this lady in the video wasn't happy: Isn't that Divvy at the start of the video? Just to the right of the guy throwing punches in red, in a light blueish jumper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagon Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Does our little friendly BB8 droid have anything to report back yet from this reconnaissance mission on the other worldly place that is the West Midlands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Good luck to everyone travelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Don't forget those camera phones. The police have nothing to worry about if they behave themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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