The Journalist Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Shtanley said: At least 2 thirds were from set pieces. The guy has NEVER scored at Ashton gate and has zero assists from open play this year which quite honestly is embarrassing. We need to buy someone like Dack but whilst we haven't despite him being weak and often losing the ball Reid has to be the one playing. He's the only player who can occasionally see a killer pass and has got assists not from set pieces. Freeman might be better suited out wide, but certainly wouldn't be in my team in the middle. Dack or Roofe in and it's a whole different ball game. I think you make a lot of fair points, and his goalscoring record has never been what it should be for a player in his position. Actually, I can't even remember the last time we had someone down the middle who could consistently strike a good ball at goal? One thing I would say on Luke, though, is if you've got a bloke who can swing a dead ball in on a sixpence and create at least 12 goals a season (assuming you have the stats to back that up) isn't that pretty valuable to a team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 hours ago, citywest30 said: AW is me, tho I suspect he meant Wilbraham in that post. :-) I'm an AW too - and yeah, you'll miss me Tossers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 26 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I think you make a lot of fair points, and his goalscoring record has never been what it should be for a player in his position. Actually, I can't even remember the last time we had someone down the middle who could consistently strike a good ball at goal? One thing I would say on Luke, though, is if you've got a bloke who can swing a dead ball in on a sixpence and create at least 12 goals a season (assuming you have the stats to back that up) isn't that pretty valuable to a team? Yes valuable but he's not doing it this year because clearly championship teams must work more on set pieces or be generally stronger. I think we've scored 3 goals from corners. 2 from Reid 1 from Freeman. I really hope we get Dack. He'd help us out big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: He has no killer pass ability. He is an excellent dribbler and crosser and should be put back out wide for me. Do you not remember last season? Of course he has the ability. It's not like it was only good enough for League 1 either, he showed it at the start of this season and rapidly faded after losing confidence. He's shown glimpses since too. He was no worse than Bobby Reid last night, either. @Shtanley - do set-piece goals not count? Were we to win 1-0 every week from a corner, I'd be pretty happy personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Just now, Robin1988 said: Dtechnicalnot remebnber last season? Of course he has the ability. It's not like it was only good enough for League 1 either, he showed it at the start of this season and rapidly faded after losing confidence. He's shown glimpses since too. He was no worse than Bobby Reid last night, either. @Shtanley - do set-piece goals not count? Were we to win 1-0 every week from a corner, I'd be pretty happy personally. He has never shown me an ability to pass IN behind or score regulary. He IS arguably our best player technically and best dead ball player. However I dont see him and never really have, playing behind the strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: Do you not remember last season? Of course he has the ability. It's not like it was only good enough for League 1 either, he showed it at the start of this season and rapidly faded after losing confidence. He's shown glimpses since too. He was no worse than Bobby Reid last night, either. @Shtanley - do set-piece goals not count? Were we to win 1-0 every week from a corner, I'd be pretty happy personally. I remember last season incredibly well. The team played exceptionally but Luke Freeman cannot deliver in the final third. It's all good breaking in the open spaces but he can't score goals and he can't get assists from open play on a regular basis! How did he show it at the start of the season can I ask? We didn't win any games until he get suspended? Bobby Reid was worse last night but behind the striker you need someone who sees runs and freeman simply doesn't. Would be on the bench or possibly on the left wing in my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Freeman has been a shadow of his former self this season but the idea of us loaning out anyone right now in our situation is laughable, let alone someone who's played almost every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Started well last night but faded badly after about half an hour. He always used to be a wing back at Stevenage - is that his best position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 words no end product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Unfortunately Freeman opens up 20 yards of space for himself on regular occasions and doesn't have the ability to find the killer pass. For all of BR flaws, he can certainly unlock a defence. We are screaming out for Gladwin to come in and create. Would happily sell freeman for anywhere near the £1 mill mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I thought Freeman was ok until being subbed last night. What I don't understand is taking him and Wagstaff off and having 3 forwards on with a huge hole in the middle of the pitch? Some people on this thread have got the answer I believe. Move Freeman out to the left (to take some pressure off him) and stick Gladwin in the middle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 3 hours ago, ashton_fan said: I was surprised he took so long to get off the pitch when substituted considering we were losing, unless he was injured? I thought this too and it annoyed me. He'd been running around up until that point so why did he trudge off with a slow walk from the other side of the pitch? We were losing 1-0, but from the way he departed you'd think we were 1-0 up with 30 seconds left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: I thought this too and it annoyed me. He'd been running around up until that point so why did he trudge off with a slow walk from the other side of the pitch? We were losing 1-0, but from the way he departed you'd think we were 1-0 up with 30 seconds left. As I said, he thinks he's an untouchable and as one of Cotts favourites would only have been brought off through injury. Thought it showed a lack of respect and class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: As I said, he thinks he's an untouchable and as one of Cotts favourites would only have been brought off through injury. Thought it showed a lack of respect and class. I want to disagree but I can't find a reason to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 It's funny isn't it, I took 2 non-City fans along last night, 1 Dundee and 1 Man Utd. Both were of the opinion that he was by some distance our standout player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishponds_Red Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 On 20 January 2016 at 07:39, wallaceboy said: Who is aw may I ask.did u mean af. Aaron Wiblraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallaceboy Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Fishponds_Red said: Aaron Wiblraham. Was a bit early in the morning.couldn't think for the life of me who it was.ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Jenkinson Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Don't think Freeman is the problem-it's the rest of the midfield If Pembo continues to play Marlon Pack , we are going down One paced and playing at least one league above his depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Freeman is a natural winger... play him on the wing FFS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 17 minutes ago, Mark Jenkinson said: Don't think Freeman is the problem-it's the rest of the midfield If Pembo continues to play Marlon Pack , we are going down One paced and playing at least one league above his depth Pack has been our best player last few weeks he's certainly shown me he's good enough at this level. I think he'll be even better in this formation too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 36 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Pack has been our best player last few weeks he's certainly shown me he's good enough at this level. I think he'll be even better in this formation too. Not necessarily this Saturday away from home, but could you see: O'Donnell; Ayling, Flint, Baker, Bryan (instead of Williams); Smith, Pack, Gladwin; Burns, Kodjia, Freeman; or maybe swap Freeman and Gladwin over for Luke's energy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not necessarily this Saturday away from home, but could you see: O'Donnell; Ayling, Flint, Baker, Bryan (instead of Williams); Smith, Pack, Gladwin; Burns, Kodjia, Freeman; or maybe swap Freeman and Gladwin over for Luke's energy? Yes. Probably be my team tbh. Only decision is whether it's DW &JB on the left or JB&LF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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