Kid in the Riot Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Your trying to be clever, we all know Pemberton is looking after the team until a new manager is named. Dear oh dear. 'Interim' 'Caretaker' - Manager, not the new manager. Yep, that's what managers do and that is exactly what Pemberton (and Wade) is doing now. No cleverness, it's incredibly simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Players are signing for Bristol City FC not a manager. I understand a manager is a big part of the deal but these days how many players play under only one manager during their 3, 4 or 5 year contracts!? It's up to Ashton, Burt and whoever else to sell the club and the vision for the future...including a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, citywest30 said: Or an alternative spin on it could be that if we'd have signed 3 or 4 in the summer then the squad might have been annoyed that Cotts hadn't faith in them to do it. At least now the they know they've had the chance amd weren't quite good enough so will understand reinforcements coming in. I know what you're saying,but they would only of been replacing those that were leaving and 2/3 new players wouldn't have rocked the boat too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Handbags away, dearies. This could easily get to 30 pages as it is, without having to read through even more BS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Trying to be clever again, he's not 'the manager'. We all know this including yourself. The manager will be named sometime soon (hopefully). We all know this including yourself. He is 'the manager' (with Wade) until we find a new one. He is performing the role and duties of 'the manager'. The new manager could be named soon or not. That is all we know at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 He's not the manager he's a very naughty boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Handbags away, dearies. This could easily get to 30 pages as it is, without having to read through even more BS! Without anyone actually signing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mr Ed said: He's not the manager he's a very naughty boy! Yeah but is he still seeing that Welsh ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: last one.....he's the interim manager, not the manager - http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/steve-cotterill-relieved-of-his-duties-2902393.aspx Odd to quote a source that doesn't back up a single thing you've said? Before you go if you could outline the differences in the duties and role that Pemberton/Wade are carrying out versus the one that SC was then that'd be most helpful. Seems to me they're doing the same job but hey ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLR Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Super said: Without anyone actually signing! OTIB protocol, don't knock it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Your trying to be clever, we all know Pemberton is looking after the team until a new manager is named. Dear oh dear. 'Interim' 'Caretaker' - Manager, not the new manager. Pemberton's obviously not the manager and there's only a miniscule chance he will be in future. Let's bloody well hope that's the case anyway. Prospective players and their agents will know this full well, and very likely assume City will be getting in a far more proven one for the lengths of their contracts.They might even have been assured of such, if not given a name. Loan signings won't care much if they've little intention of ever signing permanently. All the players now being signed will have been on the list already assembled by Burt, Cotts. and others. It's not like Pemberton's suddenly magicked them up out of thin air due to superior knowledge, persuasiveness, or any other incredible qualities. The difference now, and why we're apparently seeing players more willing to sign is these are much less sought after players, with less options, less wages, it's later in the window, it's often a short term loan, and we've already worked our way through the list of players we really wanted. Plus, probably, options B and C when option A didn't come off. Much less sought after players, much less in wages, far easier to sign, permanent manager or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Pemberton's obviously not the manager and there's only a miniscule chance he will be in future. Let's bloody well hope that's the case anyway. Prospective players and their agents will know this full well, and very likely assume City will be getting in a far more proven one for the lengths of their contracts.They might even have been assured of such, if not given a name. Loan signings won't care much if they've little intention of ever signing permanently. All the players now being signed will have been on the list already assembled by Burt, Cotts. and others. It's not like Pemberton's suddenly magicked them up out of thin air due to superior knowledge, persuasiveness, or any other incredible qualities. The difference now, and why we're apparently seeing players more willing to sign is these are much less sought after players, with less options, less wages, it's later in the window, it's often a short term loan, and we've already worked our way through the list of players we really wanted. Plus, probably, options B and C when option A didn't come off. Much less sought after players, much less in wages, far easier to sign, permanent manager or not. The tables are starting to turn ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Back to the actual original post. Very interesting if this is true though of late submitting bids for players hasn't been a problem for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: The tables are starting to turn ... Thank goodness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 35 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Pemberton's obviously not the manager and there's only a miniscule chance he will be in future. Let's bloody well hope that's the case anyway. Prospective players and their agents will know this full well, and very likely assume City will be getting in a far more proven one for the lengths of their contracts.They might even have been assured of such, if not given a name. Loan signings won't care much if they've little intention of ever signing permanently. All the players now being signed will have been on the list already assembled by Burt, Cotts. and others. It's not like Pemberton's suddenly magicked them up out of thin air due to superior knowledge, persuasiveness, or any other incredible qualities. The difference now, and why we're apparently seeing players more willing to sign is these are much less sought after players, with less options, less wages, it's later in the window, it's often a short term loan, and we've already worked our way through the list of players we really wanted. Plus, probably, options B and C when option A didn't come off. Much less sought after players, much less in wages, far easier to sign, permanent manager or not. I actually think the club have probably told so,e if not all ofmthe prospective signings who the new manager could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegC Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 32 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: The tables are starting to turn ... So we're in the playoffs with a decent shout of automatic then. Phew. There was me thinking we were in the shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: I actually think the club have probably told so,e if not all ofmthe prospective signings who the new manager could be. I bloody hope not, YS - otib have not yet approved said manager Ashton out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 There are multiple reasons why a player might sign for a club with no manager. The main one being ££££! Players of championship level have as good a chance as anyone of playing in France this summer with the home nations (except the Scots of course ) and Ireland being there, expect every player who isn't playing regularly to move somewhere they believe they will. ......They are more likely to walk into a team at the bottom than a team at the top. Also did I mention ££££££. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: He is 'the manager' (with Wade) until we find a new one. He is performing the role and duties of 'the manager'. The new manager could be named soon or not. That is all we know at this stage. Yeah but we all know this, including yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Pemberton sounds less defensive less petulant less pessimistic less truculent and more balanced than SC had in recent months Good luck to him I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Super said: I agree. We need to get some creativity and some goals into the midfield. That's what gladwins here for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Oh I can argue with that alright. At least you've actually accepted he is our current manager, well done for that. Second point, I refer you to two loan signings made this week and other impending permanent transfers. We can reassess at the end of Jan if you like but it appears we are going to have signed more players in 2 weeks than we did with a permanent manager in charge for the whole of last summer and the previous January transfer window for good measure. People were saying last week we wouldn't be able to make signings and I'm afraid that is nonsense. We seem to be making it look quite easy all of a sudden... Any need for the patronising tone? We've made two loan signings. Cotterill made plenty of loan signings himself; Baker, Moore, Bennett, Robinson, Hamer. You talk as if Pemberton has rebuilt the side. Quite why you are refusing to acknowledge that Pemberton is our caretaker manager, as opposed to our permanent manager, I don't understand. Just saying "he's the manager" doesn't recognise the undeniable fact that he is not appointed to the position permanently, which could very well have an influence on whether a player wants to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy69 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 we have 'bids' rejected for colchester united midfielder 'Alex Gilbey' he was there captain when we played against them last season, he's 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Any need for the patronising tone? We've made two loan signings. Cotterill made plenty of loan signings himself; Baker, Moore, Bennett, Robinson, Hamer. You talk as if Pemberton has rebuilt the side. Quite why you are refusing to acknowledge that Pemberton is our caretaker manager, as opposed to our permanent manager, I don't understand. Just saying "he's the manager" doesn't recognise the undeniable fact that he is not appointed to the position permanently, which could very well have an influence on whether a player wants to come here. Wasn't supposed to be patronising. I am not refusing to acknowledge Pemberton is our caretaker manager - that is exactly what I'm saying he is. Hence he is still a MANAGER, is he not? The task and role he is undertaking is as manager. I'm just bemused that I keep reading we don't have one, permanent or not, when we do - that's all. Probably being pedantic but it ain't difficult to simply say "I think we will struggle to sign any players because we don't have a permanent manager in post". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, bristolboy69 said: we have 'bids' rejected for colchester united midfielder 'Alex Gilbey' he was there captain when we played against them last season, he's 21. Would be good shout, MKD also bidding apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: Pemberton sounds less defensive less petulant less pessimistic less truculent and more balanced than SC had in recent months Good luck to him I say Now I get it, Ivor and SC cut from the same cloth. PS:- I say good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Kevin Keen the colchester boss thinks Gilbey will be playing premier league footballin 2-3 years. If he comes to us he will;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Pepper Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 hours ago, swindon fan said: It's Kasim This got swept under the carpet during all the dick waving. Just an opinion or have you heard something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishponds_Red Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 We're not appointing a manger, the club has made that very clear. Ashton will still organise signings once the new 'head coach' is appointed as he has started to do so already. It makes no difference to transfers whether we have a head coach appointed atm or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishponds_Red Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Thatch35 said: Indeed, I guess they must be telling them which manager will be in place too? Seems funny for anyone to sign for a club at the bottom with no manager. But hey, good luck to guys at City doing the transfer business, hope it's successful. We're not getting a new manger. The COO who the head coach will report to is already in place. Doesn't seem funny in the slightest to me. Very simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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