Gazred Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm happy to wait for the right person. Just hoping rather than someone that's been there and done that, it's a younger manager whose about to go there and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 If the Board are doing the appointment properly, unlike last time for example, then I am not surprised at the current timescale. Hopefully they will interview more than one person and have more than one interview. I would suggest two sets of interviews at the minimum plus some sort of paper/video exercise, maybe even three interviews. The first with Ashton and JL, the second with The Board, and finally with SL. But knowing City you all may be right and it doesn't take this length of time to make one phone call or have a couple of drinks in some bar off a motorway ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider city red 81 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 19 hours ago, bs3 said: Have we interviewed anyone for the job of manager ? It does seem that Pemberton will stay in situ (according to the Bristol Post) until the end of the season, if this turns out to be the case why couldn't this have been sorted out two weeks ago and why did Mark Ashton say we would be shocked at the names who have applied for the job. This have all been handled very badly. Apparently yes in Canterbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Hypothetical - no inside information. But what if via his agent somebody like Mick McCarthy/Paul Lambert had expressed an interest in the job but for fairly obvious reasons neither would be willing to leave the job now. McCarthy (who in all honesty has been stagnating with Ipswich for a while now and is hamstrung by finances) may for example have said that IF Ipswich don't win promotion this season he may fancy a new challenge. That would be a hypothetical scenario where the board may feel they potentially have some very good options in the summer - much better ones than they currently have. That kind of scenario would fit with @djb6162 's post above that there may be some surprising names interested in the job but are in work and perhaps currently 'unavailable'. I'd be monumentally disappointed with McCarthy mainly because he's so excessively Northern. Or Irish. I think this is all about Roberto Martinez. If he goes then LVG will resign and start out at Goodison. That leaves Mourinho free to take up the ManUre fight. I'm fairly confident Mourinho wants to manage us but could be charmed away by ManUre. It would be surprising at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 15 minutes ago, cider city red 81 said: Apparently yes in Canterbury So you're suggesting Justin Edinburgh - or am I just putting two and two together to make a large number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: On the contrary. Simply sarcasm - young, progressive and just what we are looking for, but way out of our reach at present. Justin Edinburgh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 8 hours ago, pongo88 said: There is a problem with City waiting till the end of the season to appoint a new manager scenario. What if Pemberton is a success in the coming months and City comfortably avoid relegation? It would then be difficult to sack him. If Pembo stays in charge and we comfortably avoid relegation then why should he be sacked/released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, arrytheb said: If Pembo stays in charge and we comfortably avoid relegation then why should he be sacked/released? Keith Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 minute ago, OddBallJim said: Keith Millen. Has no relevance what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 If it's Pemberton until the end of the season then I really don't understand why they sacked Cotterill. That would seem at least as big a gamble as it would have been to stick with him. Surely the intention was to recruit an experienced man in the Pearson / Warnock mould to steer us away from trouble. If it's not Pemberton then what are we waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Disagree, SC had no plan B re tactics SC failed in summer to strengthen a squad he believed was good enough even tho it wasn't as good as last season's SC had become truculent Pembo has brought a breath of fresh air and sensible ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 8 hours ago, pongo88 said: There is a problem with City waiting till the end of the season to appoint a new manager scenario. What if Pemberton is a success in the coming months and City comfortably avoid relegation? It would then be difficult to sack him. I don't see any problem with this scenario at all. This is one thing that sorts the men from the boys in the dog eat dog world of professional football. John Pemberton will understand. If we are still a Championship club next summer is John Pemberton the best man we can hire to manage the first team? Yes: there is no one more experienced or capable of managing in this league. Give him the job then. Or No: 4 months experience of being the boss is no match for ........ these 3 candidates who have succeeded in this league or higher before. Thanks John, but we are going to appoint someone with a recent promotion from this league (for example) on his cv. Just because it seems a bit off or not what we have done before not keeping JP on after 4 months success, or a bit awkward saying "thanks, but ..." doesn't mean it is not the right thing to do for the club. It's time to do the right thing for the club, rather than what deels like the decent thing to do, which means being hard-headed and ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, arrytheb said: Has no relevance what so ever. To fail to recognise how internal recruitment has failed us in the long-term in the past would be very naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: To fail to recognise how internal recruitment has failed us in the long-term in the past would be very naive. To fail to recognise that some of the top managers in the world have been internal recruitment would be very naive- see Benfica in 2000 although they ultimately lost said manager after 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Disagree, SC had no plan B re tactics SC failed in summer to strengthen a squad he believed was good enough even tho it wasn't as good as last season's SC had become truculent Pembo has brought a breath of fresh air and sensible ideas Be that as it may - and I don't disagree with you - I still don't think it is any less of a gamble to go with an inexperienced man who was very much a part of the regime that failed as you describe. And I don't believe Cotterill was sacked with the intention of appointing Pemberton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: To fail to recognise how internal recruitment has failed us in the long-term in the past would be very naive. I'm not saying Pembo would be the long term answer and I'm not even sure I'd want him to be however, say we win 75% of our remaining games this season (I know I know) then surely it'll be mad not to consider him just because of Millen. Barca took the plunge with Pep and he turned out alright. I guess I'm just fed up with the obsession of having to name a big named manager when I'd rather the club at least considered all options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Saying that, I think ChippenhamRed has made some valid points above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: Disagree, SC had no plan B re tactics SC failed in summer to strengthen a squad he believed was good enough even tho it wasn't as good as last season's SC had become truculent Pembo has brought a breath of fresh air and sensible ideas Pembo has just listened to the fans and implemented it, Saturday's game will define him as a manager - win and I can see him staying as our manager, lose and that's the end of his short spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 40 minutes ago, City169 said: To fail to recognise that some of the top managers in the world have been internal recruitment would be very naive- see Benfica in 2000 although they ultimately lost said manager after 9 games. 1) Are you suggesting that John Pemberton is a "top manager"? 2) Why would you deem my post irrelevant, despite the fact it refers to a similar situation this club has been through before, and instead consider a completely different club with a completely different situation and resources to be relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: 1) Are you suggesting that John Pemberton is a "top manager"? 2) Why would you deem my post irrelevant, despite the fact it refers to a similar situation this club has been through before, and instead consider a completely different club with a completely different situation and resources to be relevant? I'm not suggesting Pemerton is or could be a top manager, I'm making the point that any clubs assistant manager/coach could potentially be a top manager/head coach, and you won't ever know one way or the other without giving them a try. The biggest reason people are citing for not giving Pemberton a chance is that he hasn't got the experience of managing a championship club, but that can be said about anyone trying to become a manager at any level, and how else does someone get experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: On the contrary. Simply sarcasm - young, progressive and just what we are looking for, but way out of our reach at present. Phew! Glad I misread that! I'd have been gutted if people were dismissing young English managers who've had great success, but as you said, that alone means we can't attract guys like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: We obviously wouldn't let Pemberton go, unless we had a replacement lined up. SC will take his bestie Steve Allen with him though, so I'd imagine we'll be looking for a new physio in the not to distant future. Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, City169 said: I'm not suggesting Pemerton is or could be a top manager, I'm making the point that any clubs assistant manager/coach could potentially be a top manager/head coach, and you won't ever know one way or the other without giving them a try. The biggest reason people are citing for not giving Pemberton a chance is that he hasn't got the experience of managing a championship club, but that can be said about anyone trying to become a manager at any level, and how else does someone get experience? I'd rather we have a bloke that made his inevitable mistakes somewhere else, mistakes he's now learned from. That's what I mean by experience. Ideally, you want someone who has been both successful and has failed, as there is much to learn from both. I think Cotts benefitted from a lot of his previous experience and we got the best of him, up until last summer of course. If the club are serious about the PL thing, then it's difficult to see how Pemberton can be the best man for the job. Unless he performs miracles between now and May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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