Smokey Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 32 minutes ago, Burt_ said: I must be seeing a different player. As far as I can see he consistently bottles every 50-50 challenge, rarely tackles, offers very little offensively - taking the pace and impetus out of attack after attack and doesn't add much defensively. What has he ever done (one stunning shot aside) that has looked even remotely classy? IMO he is a Div 1 squad player at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeeebles Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, Burt_ said: I must be seeing a different player. As far as I can see he consistently bottles every 50-50 challenge, rarely tackles, offers very little offensively - taking the pace and impetus out of attack after attack and doesn't add much defensively. What has he ever done (one stunning shot aside) that has looked even remotely classy? IMO he is a Div 1 squad player at best. Today He did everything you stated he didn't do. if you couldn't see that today then you clearly have an agenda against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatersfloater Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 33 minutes ago, Burt_ said: I must be seeing a different player. As far as I can see he consistently bottles every 50-50 challenge, rarely tackles, offers very little offensively - taking the pace and impetus out of attack after attack and doesn't add much defensively. What has he ever done (one stunning shot aside) that has looked even remotely classy? IMO he is a Div 1 squad player at best. It's all about opinions and thankyou for yours But............... Thats complete and utter bollocks, In my opinion I think he was class today, remember he's still very young and will only get better You Reds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, wheatus59 said: I think you need to watch a different sport then , Pack was outstanding today , and however he plays he never stops trying , always wants the ball , wins most headers and never lets his head drop , id pick him every week without fail . His positioning without the ball is terrifying tho,but he has shown this season he is half decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Certainly a contender for MOTM, The forward positioning certainly suited Marlon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 24 minutes ago, Donkeeebles said: Today He did everything you stated he didn't do. if you couldn't see that today then you clearly have an agenda against him Or..... ....he was 'watching' on the radio. 'Maybe we have secretly signed Dack, and that was him out there today. That was a very good box to box midfield display today. Had either the first minute shot, or the one late on that he half-dragged wide gone in....then it would have really put the icing on the cake. Keep it up Marlon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, smokey live said: Thought Pack has played well for awhile now and that surging run down the left hand side today. Well done Marlon, keep it going I thought he was going to run in to the stand! Great display by Marlon today, he looked like he'd been let off his leash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said: I thought he was going to run in to the stand! Great display by Marlon today, he looked like he'd been let off his leash! Marlon doing a forest gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, smokey live said: Marlon doing a forest gump that's what the lady sat next to me was saying - Run Forest run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanjita Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Burt_ said: What exactly did he do today aside from one run and looking full of energy? I just cannot see what he contributes. It isn't goals, isn't assists, isn't crunching tackles, he doesn't dictate play, isn't particularly creative. I just can't see what he brings to the party at all. You, my friend are having a giraffe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Pack played well today and is on a decent run of form. His attitude is good - he never goes missing during games and always looks for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I agree he was very good today, but you can't ignore the other games this season. For me not good enough at this level. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Aldhelms Red Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I think hes been quality all season and is getting better and better with each game. I think the people who slag him off, don't see what he does off the ball, let alone on it. I would love to see the stats of how many times he touches the ball in the game, for the amount of times he is on the ball , he is bound to give it away now and then.Today, in the first 10 minutes, he made 10 passes, then his next pass was wayward. the bloke behind me slagged him right off for a bad pass, " What about the 10 passes before?" I said. "Didn't see them, hes shit anyway" was the reply!" I despair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It’sSmiittthhh Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Im far from Pack's biggest fan! But i think he's been a totally different player since Cotts has gone. Played really well against Middlesborough and played well again today! Kudos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I've never had a problem with what he brings to the team, but allowing him to roam forward really suits him. It's almost as though he has been wasted holding back. I guess Ayling does tend to carry the ball forward from the back and someone has to stay back and mop up. Pack does a lot of that work that goes unnoticed. Lovely bloke off the field as I've said before, great character in the dressing room I would think. Hope he's here for a long time, I wouldn't like to play against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 4 hours ago, Burt_ said: What exactly did he do today aside from one run and looking full of energy? I just cannot see what he contributes. It isn't goals, isn't assists, isn't crunching tackles, he doesn't dictate play, isn't particularly creative. I just can't see what he brings to the party at all. You just gotta love this. Just off the top of my head, a fantastic cross early in the game from the right corner which a striker should've been on the end of, an inch perfect pass to burns through on goal who either got fouled or fell over his own feet, a cracking shot early on and a near miss at the end and an all-round commanding performance. Could easily have ended with 2 goals or 2 assists today. But that's ok, he misplaced a couple of passes so he's clearly shit. I also love all the comments on here recently. Many start with "I'm not a fan of Pack, but..." Must be doing something right to get many many positive comments from those who aren't 'fans' of his. For me, our most consistent performer ALL season. And to the person who wondered about his touches/stats. In all but 2 games this season Pack has had more touches and passes than the rest of the team. And on a couple of occasions he's had nearly DOUBLE the touches than the next City player. Hugely under appreciated by a significant number of our fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt_ Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 The man always gives 100% and is full of running, I just do not think he's a particularly good player. Off the top of my head I've listed a few City midfielders from the past few years. How many of these players would you genuinely take Pack over? Steve McCLaren, Paul Mardon, Gary Shelton, David Rennie, Rob Edwards, Tommy Doherty, Martin Kuhl, Gary Owers, Marvin Elliot, Cole Skuse, Alex Russell. Does that put his apparent class into perspective? By the way, it is so desperately sad that you can't express an opinion contrary to that of the outraged, super fan, OTIB Mafioso, without - rather than any debate - being told that you couldn't possibly be a real supporter, and obviously don't actually go to games, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Another really good performance. £100k buy from L2 - great business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Another really good performance. £100k buy from L2 - great business! As much as SOD is criticised on here he made some very good signings. JET, Williams, Flint, Pack all for relatively cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 He was fantastic today. Won the ball, passed the ball and moved with it. He nearly cut hitting those awful diags out apart from 2! Beginning to look every part a championship player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 8 hours ago, St Aldhelms Red said: I think hes been quality all season and is getting better and better with each game. I think the people who slag him off, don't see what he does off the ball, let alone on it. I would love to see the stats of how many times he touches the ball in the game, for the amount of times he is on the ball Might be able to deduce something from these. The second link has info on passing. http://www.statbunker.com/players/getPlayerStats?player_id=31857 http://www.futhead.com/16/players/7877/marlon-pack/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 9 hours ago, RedM said: I've never had a problem with what he brings to the team, but allowing him to roam forward really suits him. It's almost as though he has been wasted holding back. I guess Ayling does tend to carry the ball forward from the back and someone has to stay back and mop up. Pack does a lot of that work that goes unnoticed. Lovely bloke off the field as I've said before, great character in the dressing room I would think. Hope he's here for a long time, I wouldn't like to play against him I think the switch to a back 4 has helped him in this respect. He doesn't have to cover the wing backs or shield the back 3 as much. This gives him licence to go forward and showed yesterday that he can link up well with Tomlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Haters gonna hate. I wouldn't be surprised if the people that slag off Pack are the same people that slagged off Skuse when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Head Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Don't know if the word hate is correct. There's a guy sits behind me,in the SS,moans about every player every week but especially Pack. Yesterday he actually compared him with Skuse. Who are both not good enough according to him!! Not a clue some our supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 9 hours ago, Harry said: You just gotta love this. Just off the top of my head, a fantastic cross early in the game from the right corner which a striker should've been on the end of, an inch perfect pass to burns through on goal who either got fouled or fell over his own feet, a cracking shot early on and a near miss at the end and an all-round commanding performance. Could easily have ended with 2 goals or 2 assists today. But that's ok, he misplaced a couple of passes so he's clearly shit. I also love all the comments on here recently. Many start with "I'm not a fan of Pack, but..." Must be doing something right to get many many positive comments from those who aren't 'fans' of his. For me, our most consistent performer ALL season. And to the person who wondered about his touches/stats. In all but 2 games this season Pack has had more touches and passes than the rest of the team. And on a couple of occasions he's had nearly DOUBLE the touches than the next City player. Hugely under appreciated by a significant number of our fanbase. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Pack does a similar job as Cole Skuse did for City and now does at the Tractor Boys. Skuse was seriously underrated by loads of City fans who clearly don't appreciate how crucial it is to protect the defence. i thought he had a decent game yesterday as he does most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfieldred Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Pack had a few poor games this season - Birmingham away, Rotherham and Derby. Otherwise he's played consistently ok or well. Looks liberated from having to try to cover the centre backs in a 3-5-2 a very difficult job in this division as last year teams ended to go high and direct which suited his style. This season he faced quick accurate passing through the Middle which has made him look culpable hence the accusations of not good enough at this level. For most of the time he did this thankless job quite well, but since the move to 4-3-3 he has gone up a level and was the best player on the pitch yesterday, so is certainly good enough at this level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Going to be interesting seeing him and Cole Skuse head to head in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfieldred Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Going to be interesting seeing him and Cole Skuse head to head in a couple of weeks. Pack Different to skuse in that he is better on the ball, passes better than him, but doesn't tackle back as well and has less pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Going to be interesting seeing him and Cole Skuse head to head in a couple of weeks. At Portman Road I thought Pack had a much better game than Skuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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