reddogkev Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Seems a bizarre title for a thread at this stage of the season - with MK looking good for the drop, but think about it for a moment. There's always an unexpected team from the lower reaches of the game that strings together a decent couple of seasons, builds momentum, and seemingly does the impossible - scales the heights of the Championships and penetrates the fortified walls of the Prem. The last few teams I refer to mainly are Bournemouth, Crapdiff, Swansea, and even going further back to Stoke, and Hull City's first promotion to the top tier. There are numerous other examples of unfashionable teams doing just this - so in theory, with MK Dons slowly but surely growing their fanbase, gaining more exposure, and being based relatively close to London - will they replicate this feat? I will always hate MK Dons with a passion, still don't agree that they bought out Wimbledon, and pray that City beat them to the chase. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Let me just take my Tardis for a spin and get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Seems a bizarre title for a thread at this stage of the season - with MK looking good for the drop, but think about it for a moment. There's always an unexpected team from the lower reaches of the game that strings together a decent couple of seasons, builds momentum, and seemingly does the impossible - scales the heights of the Championships and penetrates the fortified walls of the Prem. The last few teams I refer to mainly are Bournemouth, Crapdiff, Swansea, and even going further back to Stoke, and Hull City's first promotion to the top tier. There are numerous other examples of unfashionable teams doing just this - so in theory, with MK Dons slowly but surely growing their fanbase, gaining more exposure, and being based relatively close to London - will they replicate this feat? I will always hate MK Dons with a passion, still don't agree that they bought out Wimbledon, and pray that City beat them to the chase. Thoughts? Their club was built from the ground up to be a franchise in the premier league.... effectively taking an American template and trying it in England. And one day (no matter how much I despise them) I expect them to achieve their goal and it will be a sad day for English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Very unlikely with ffp. Their crowds aren't the best and with parachute payments ever increasing, they will find it difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Potentially if they set up well, grow their fan base. Fact they have a modern ground with non football revenue streams on paper yes quite plausible sadly. Corporate growth too relatively affluent city in a relatively affluent catchment area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 If Wigan can do it, no reason why Franchise can't in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 No disrespect meant to them but if Bournemouth can reach the top flight you literally cannot put it past any league club.. If you have the dough you win in the modern game unfortunately, its sad but ultimately the truth... Its there for the taking for any club no matter how small you are 'perceived' so MK Dons have a good a chance as anyone IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 They have a better chance now they have JET to call on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 got just as much of a chance as us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Every year their crowds are growing They have the ground and training ground to boot Invested in a long term model I see no reason why not in the next 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Swansea played Hull in League 2 for league survival in 2003, in a decrepit Vetch ground at the end of a season in which they averaged crowds of 3,000. If they can achieve it from there, then of course a Championship club with a gradually growing fanbase and first-rate infrastructure can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Swansea played Hull in League 2 for league survival in 2003, in a decrepit Vetch ground at the end of a season in which they averaged crowds of 3,000. If they can achieve it from there, then of course a Championship club with a gradually growing fanbase and first-rate infrastructure can do it. Swansea are still the team that baffle me the most. I don't think anyone can accurately explain how they've managed their transformation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from memory I don't recall them ever splashing around huge amounts of money as they climbed the ladder. If they stay up this season, then with the extra money for next year, they will soon become giants compared to us. Hope this never ever happens to MK Dons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 31 minutes ago, ciderbeans said: No The only clear 'no' so far. I hope you're right... what're your reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 48 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Every year their crowds are growing They have the ground and training ground to boot Invested in a long term model I see no reason why not in the next 15 years. They don't have their own training ground yet, according to KR in media stories before playing Chelsea. Sometimes they use a school's facilities near MK. Before the Chelsea game, they couldn't use what they wanted locally because it was booked up by a "school party" according to KR. He managed to say that "I am not complaining. It's part of life here," before adding "we've got the lowest budget" and "we over-achieve every year." I'd imagine he is embellishing things a little, whilst reminding everyone what a good job he's doing. As for their crowds, well the away support is certainly growing. Get in the Prem, and some clubs would fill half the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Swansea are still the team that baffle me the most. I don't think anyone can accurately explain how they've managed their transformation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from memory I don't recall them ever splashing around huge amounts of money as they climbed the ladder. If they stay up this season, then with the extra money for next year, they will soon become giants compared to us. Hope this never ever happens to MK Dons! I follow Swansea as I used to live there. I went to the Hull game in 2003. They didn't splash cash at all on their way to the Prem. They just benefitted from very shrewd management on and off the pitch, a consistent footballing identity that each of their managers had to buy into, and a joint venture with the council that helped fund their new stadium. A fantastic club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yes and before we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: I follow Swansea as I used to live there. I went to the Hull game in 2003. They didn't splash cash at all on their way to the Prem. They just benefitted from very shrewd management on and off the pitch, a consistent footballing identity that each of their managers had to buy into, and a joint venture with the council that helped fund their new stadium. A fantastic club. Any of those things, pleaseease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Wot is the fascination with MK bloody Dons? Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 They're an interesting case study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 5 hours ago, reddogkev said: Seems a bizarre title for a thread at this stage of the season - with MK looking good for the drop, but think about it for a moment. There's always an unexpected team from the lower reaches of the game that strings together a decent couple of seasons, builds momentum, and seemingly does the impossible - scales the heights of the Championships and penetrates the fortified walls of the Prem. The last few teams I refer to mainly are Bournemouth, Crapdiff, Swansea, and even going further back to Stoke, and Hull City's first promotion to the top tier. There are numerous other examples of unfashionable teams doing just this - so in theory, with MK Dons slowly but surely growing their fanbase, gaining more exposure, and being based relatively close to London - will they replicate this feat? I will always hate MK Dons with a passion, still don't agree that they bought out Wimbledon, and pray that City beat them to the chase. Thoughts? What has this do with Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 36 minutes ago, hortonred said: What has this do with Bristol City. Football Chat Anything as long as its football, including non league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 MK Dons, one club that killed two when it was formed... Will they ever be Premier League? Yeah probably, it pains me to say it, but they have a good set up, with quite a few good talents coming out of their academy and what seems to be a good relationship with a few top flight sides. I don't think they will fly up in the next few seasons, but with stable growth I can see them getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southstandoriginal Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Taxi for Rennie said: Wot is the fascination with MK bloody Dons? Uncle TFR Well, the horrible possibility that they might stay up and we might go down is exercising my few remaining brain cells at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 The really sad thing is that in another 10-20 years, the vast majority of fans will regard them as a football club just like the rest. The travesty that saw their formation will be forgotten. Arsenal doing a similar thing 100+ years ago I'm sure was regarded as a heinous act by many, but completely forgotten about these days. http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/henry-norris-man-who-would-be-king-arsenal#:j9_Bi0JFlPkLuA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 8 hours ago, Southstandoriginal said: Well, the horrible possibility that they might stay up and we might go down is exercising my few remaining brain cells at the moment! We'll recruit a goal-machine when the emergency loan window opens. The defence has been shored-up, and the new midfield signings will gel and start rippling the onion bag. Chill you big girl. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah they've got a decent chance. Let's hope they don't become yet another club that does it before us though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 16 hours ago, pride of the west said: Very unlikely with ffp. Their crowds aren't the best and with parachute payments ever increasing, they will find it difficult. Most off-the-field revenue (I think) is generated from use of the stadium facilities on non-matchdays rather than crowds. In that sense they're miles ahead of most clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I think it's inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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