Phileas Fogg Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Griffin said: SL stated relatively recently that we'll be going for L1 players next year and NOT spending big. SL says a lot of things, particularly with transfers, we've seen time and time again how much he loves bringing in a 'name'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Maybe I, and others expected a striker that LJ could deliver with his massive amount of contacts Looks like we've managed to secure Adam Matthews. A good player and current international in a position we needed from a Premiership side. Good enough evidence of his contacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Thatch35 said: Maybe I, and others expected a striker that LJ could deliver with his massive amount of contacts You might have to wait. You might want to adjust your expectations. You could do with paying attention to all that he says, unless you are merely interested in having a pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Looks like we've managed to secure Adam Matthews. A good player and current international in a position we needed from a Premiership side. Good enough evidence of his contacts? I'm not in the LJ bashing camp by any means but SC was close to securing Matthews before he got the chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Robin1988 said: I'm not in the LJ bashing camp by any means but SC was close to securing Matthews before he got the chop. I remember that actually, wasn't sure if it was Matthews or someone else. Wasn't SC after Tomlin too? I suppose it's a good thing if there's continuity with player identification/scouting under different management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Looks like we've managed to secure Adam Matthews. A good player and current international in a position we needed from a Premiership side. Good enough evidence of his contacts? Yes evidence that he does not have contacts to bring in a player where we need one, with Little and now Ayling back fit, is this our most pressing position to fill with the limits on loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Yes evidence that he does not have contacts to bring in a player where we need one, with Little and now Ayling back fit, is this our most pressing position to fill with the limits on loans I really rate Matthews and he's an improvement in what we have at right back. Little hasn't quite looked the same to me since his injury and Ayling will take a while to get fit. I think LJ will use Ayling as a defensive midfielder as he alluded to last week. For me, it's a sensible signing and improvement on what we have which will only help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Yes evidence that he does not have contacts to bring in a player where we need one, with Little and now Ayling back fit, is this our most pressing position to fill with the limits on loans If the striker is simply not there or available, to then not loan someone like Matthews is 'cutting-off-nose-to-spite-face' isn't it?!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: I really rate Matthews and he's an improvement in what we have at right back. Little hasn't quite looked the same to me since his injury and Ayling will take a while to get fit. I think LJ will use Ayling as a defensive midfielder as he alluded to last week. For me, it's a sensible signing and improvement on what we have which will only help us. Don't disagree its a good signing, but what worries me is we seem to be more lacking in other areas and the impact this has on us to make further loan signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Don't disagree its a good signing, but what worries me is we seem to be more lacking in other areas and the impact this has on us to make further loan signings In my eyes it was probably a position second in priority only to a forward that needed fresh impetus. Problem is I can't think of any forwards who are available, fit or realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ayling will now be played up front to take the pressure off of Kodjia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: I remember that actually, wasn't sure if it was Matthews or someone else. Wasn't SC after Tomlin too? I suppose it's a good thing if there's continuity with player identification/scouting under different management. Macheda supposedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Kodjia is a great player to have, he just isn't a lone striker build, he's the second striker who breaks the line whilst the other striker is being marked up kind of striker. The idea that he's the right striker for us with 1 up top is wrong, he's got a lot to offer but he needs to be given a bit more freedom and he won't get that as a lone striker, or at least not in a team where he's the only real threat. Our real issue is the midfield, just look at them: Korey Smith - 0 goals in 33 games. Great defensively but offers nothing in the scoring department Lee Tomlin - 1 goal in 7 games. Bobby Ried - 0 goals in 21 appearances Luke Freeman - 1 goal in 34 appearances Wes Burns - 1 goal in 17 appearances Marlon Pack - 0 goals in 37 appearances So our whole midfield has scored less goals combined than Flint!! One more goal from Flint and he's scored twice as many goals as our midfield combined. Add that to the fact that Wilbs has only scored 6 in 23 and it makes you wonder why we keep using Agard as a sub too as he has made 19 sub appearances and only score 3 to go with his 6 starts. Our problem with goals is certainly not Kodjia, hell if we didn't have him we'd be smack bang bottom and in the shit big time! Our issue is our midfield doesn't contribute and unless you have a 30 goals a season striker then you can't get away with that. We need a goalscoring midfielder or two, some box to box players who not only can defend but also create and score. All this talk about a striker and I'd just be happy to see Freeman actually find a scoring touch or for us to have loaned in a midfielder who can convert, hopefully Tomlin will find a few and Freeman will also contribute, otherwise we're always going to struggle with goals, Kodjia is not the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 hours ago, nathredwood said: I got as far as Kodyia and stopped reading. I assume. THE. rest of the post. WAS. absolute nonsense. LEE! I know what you mean and share your sentiment, but you didn't really stop reading the post did you ? Come on. You can tell us. You read the whole post and then decided to reply because you were angry and disagreed with what RMC said . For what it's worth, so was I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathredwood Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I know what you mean and share your sentiment, but you didn't really stop reading the post did you ? Come on. You can tell us. You read the whole post and then decided to reply because you were angry and disagreed with what RMC said . For what it's worth, so was I. And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky PHILINFRANCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I reckon he probably is seeing it but can't do much about it at this stage! If we stop conceeding silly goals from right back we'll Nick the odd goal to win a few more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Robin1988 said: I'm not in the LJ bashing camp by any means but SC was close to securing Matthews before he got the chop. That shows that the club are advancing , coach changes , club keeps on going with it's plan . Good news from my point of view . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I am not ready to write off Agard just yet . He has goals in him he just needs to be used properly and to have a run in the starting Line up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 28 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: That shows that the club are advancing , coach changes , club keeps on going with it's plan . Good news from my point of view . Yes very true. On Agard, he's not good enough to start at this level but he's a perfect impact sub. He's dangerous in and out of possession; he drags defenders away with his pace, is always a threat on the break and with his tenacity is a good defender from the front. If he's happy to continue in that role, I would keep him this summer if we possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 4 hours ago, Robin1988 said: Yes very true. On Agard, he's not good enough to start at this level but he's a perfect impact sub. He's dangerous in and out of possession; he drags defenders away with his pace, is always a threat on the break and with his tenacity is a good defender from the front. If he's happy to continue in that role, I would keep him this summer if we possibly can. 19 sub appearances, 3 goals... not much of an impact :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, Spike said: 19 sub appearances, 3 goals... not much of an impact :/ Seeing as at least ten of those appearances came when he appeared after the 80th minute I'm not sure of your point.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 The real question for Lee and Pemberton is who they prefer next season as a second string forward: Agard or Burns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Seeing as at least ten of those appearances came when he appeared after the 80th minute I'm not sure of your point.. Well an impact sub makes an impact... he isn't making an impact in his games. He made an impact against Leeds and West Brom but his other goal came from starting. I think Agard would be better off at a club starting games, he'll never find form at us sitting on the bench, it should be the youngsters who are eager and enthusiastic coming off of the bench when we're struggling to score. It also still doesn't matter if he's here or not, the issue isn't so much our strikers but our midfielders. 3 goals from our midfielders combined, if Flint scores in our next match he'll have scored more goals than our entire midfield combined twice over, the same as Wilbs and twice as many as Agard. It's fair to say if Flint and Kodjia both got injured at the same time we'd be screwed as we only have 4 players in our entire squad who have scored more than 2 goals this season. We need midfielders who can do more than make a pass and do some defending, we need midfielders who can actually contribute and in turn stop putting so much pressure on our strikers to carry everyone and get us points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Spike said: 19 sub appearances, 3 goals... not much of an impact :/ It might help to read the rest of the post in that case Spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 7 March 2016 at 14:38, Thatch35 said: The squad isn't good enough, not enough goals being scored! If the midfield are not scoring a decent new striker could be the difference between relegation and staying up. I don't believe the manager is either, but we need to get behind them its our only chance of survival we vaguely have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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