gfc1234 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Wondering why he never got much of a chance at Bristol City? Seems to be enjoying his loan at Gillingham...We have had 5 clean sheets in the 5 games he has started! Defends as though his life depends on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, gfc1234 said: Wondering why he never got much of a chance at Bristol City? Seems to be enjoying his loan at Gillingham...We have had 5 clean sheets in the 5 games he has started! Defends as though his life depends on it! Just one of those that never worked out. Happens to many deals. Came here, looked out of sorts and lost the trust of management. No doubt there's a good player there, just not meant to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Came in and was put into a back 3 where he never looked comfortable and struggled to adjust. His performances were poor and found himself dropped, not helped by getting a red card away at Peterborough. Then there were rumours of a serious falling out with the manager (possibly fisticuffs?) and it became clear that he wasn't ever going to find a way back into favour. To his credit, he's been keen to go out on loan and seems to have done pretty well wherever he's gone. Clearly a good player, it just hasn't worked out here for a number of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 As above posters said it never worked out here. He always kept me on the edge of my seat watching him defend corners and set pieces, the way he tries to take off the oppositions shirts was a big worry. Always seemed like a penalty, mistake or red card was never too far away. Nothing against the guy and i hope he does well in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfc1234 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Came in and was put into a back 3 where he never looked comfortable and struggled to adjust. His performances were poor and found himself dropped, not helped by getting a red card away at Peterborough. Then there were rumours of a serious falling out with the manager (possibly fisticuffs?) and it became clear that he wasn't ever going to find a way back into favour. To his credit, he's been keen to go out on loan and seems to have done pretty well wherever he's gone. Clearly a good player, it just hasn't worked out here for a number of reasons. That is interesting as he has been in the middle of a back 3 and looks at home! As you say sometimes things don't work out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, gfc1234 said: Wondering why he never got much of a chance at Bristol City? Seems to be enjoying his loan at Gillingham...We have had 5 clean sheets in the 5 games he has started! Defends as though his life depends on it! Keep him then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 47 minutes ago, gfc1234 said: That is interesting as he has been in the middle of a back 3 and looks at home! As you say sometimes things don't work out! We played him on the left though, even though he is all right footed. To be honest I don't think he is of Championship standard any more, with a year left on his deal it would make sense for both parties if he moved on this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Complete liability from every set piece against us - never interested in the ball, just the man. Brighton fans spoke highly of him. At least he went out on loan and seems to have done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Always looked like a sending off waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 It never worked out cos he was shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopesy38 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: It never worked out cos he was shite. Because he's hardly been given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hopesy38 said: Because he's hardly been given a chance. Haha how many chances do you want him to have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopesy38 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just now, RedDave said: Haha how many chances do you want him to have? Enough to see if he deserves a place in the team.. yeah he may not be THE BEST but been here a good long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopesy38 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Do-Do-Do-Do-Do! Adam El-Abd, Do-Do-Do-Do! (In the style of mana mana, muppets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hopesy38 said: Enough to see if he deserves a place in the team.. yeah he may not be THE BEST but been here a good long while. 14 games is enough to know he isn't good enough. He's been here a while because no other team wants to sign him permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjia 22 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Never will I forget when he tweaked the nipple area of Akinfenwa at a corner, I believe it was at home, around 3 seasons ago? Of all the players to wind up! That takes some bottle mind, wouldn't catch me doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted April 11, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Good that you guys like him, he can be a makeweight in our bid for Dack in the Summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, RedDave said: 14 games is enough to know he isn't good enough. He's been here a while because no other team wants to sign him permanently. You could have said the same when Flint first signed for us.....just as well our coaches didn't have your mentality and he's been here a while as he was signed up on a fairly lucrative 4 year contract......something I doubt lower league clubs who may want him for his ability would struggle to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, RedRaw said: You could have said the same when Flint first signed for us.....just as well our coaches didn't have your mentality and he's been here a while as he was signed up on a fairly lucrative 4 year contract......something I doubt lower league clubs who may want him for his ability would struggle to offer So you want El Abd back in our squad then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, RedDave said: So you want El Abd back in our squad then? Whilst he is on contract he is part of the squad albeit out on loan at present but if he was called back for any reason then I would have no problem if Johnson put him in the match day team/squad. He has almost 400 career appearances and appears to have done well on his loans so you can't just write him off as "shite" because of a somewhat dodgy start to his city career (I will reference Flint again). Clearly things didn't work out for him when he first signed for various reasons and he has struggled to get into the team since things took off on the pitch but he was bought on a long term no doubt lucrative contract so clearly the club saw something......unfortunately, some people like to just write players off as "shite" without understanding all the potential circumstances. he still has another year on his contract so if baker goes back and flint is sold he may well be back in the fold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, RedRaw said: Whilst he is on contract he is part of the squad albeit out on loan at present but if he was called back for any reason then I would have no problem if Johnson put him in the match day team/squad. He has almost 400 career appearances and appears to have done well on his loans so you can't just write him off as "shite" because of a somewhat dodgy start to his city career (I will reference Flint again). Clearly things didn't work out for him when he first signed for various reasons and he has struggled to get into the team since things took off on the pitch but he was bought on a long term no doubt lucrative contract so clearly the club saw something......unfortunately, some people like to just write players off as "shite" without understanding all the potential circumstances. he still has another year on his contract so if baker goes back and flint is sold he may well be back in the fold Perhaps we should get back all our shite players and give them a chance. Don't suppose you have Nyatanga and Kilkenny's number do you? Players who have also made hundreds of appearances and were signed by this club on long term contracts. If not then Woolford or Mark Wilson will be fine. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Who said anything about getting players back that have left?......last I looked el abd was still contracted to Bristol city. My point being that if and when he plays for us again he should be given every opportunity to stake his claim the same as other players who may have gone through dodgy periods......you sound like the sort of bloke that would give him hell the minute he put a foot wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 8 hours ago, Kodjia 22 said: Never will I forget when he tweaked the nipple area of Akinfenwa at a corner, I believe it was at home, around 3 seasons ago? Of all the players to wind up! That takes some bottle mind, wouldn't catch me doing that. May be they're friends . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Always remember that night game against Peterborough,when he decided to lash out with a punch and got sent off. and we won 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Anyone see the highlights of Gillingham's game last weekend? Yeah they can keep him. At least the bloke has been willing to go out and play games rather than just pick up his wages for nothing though. Obviously a good professional, as Reid alluded to in his interview in the last games programme, just seems to have lost his head a bit in terms of composure in games. Reckon they could knock 50k off the Dack fee for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 7 hours ago, RedRaw said: Who said anything about getting players back that have left?......last I looked el abd was still contracted to Bristol city. My point being that if and when he plays for us again he should be given every opportunity to stake his claim the same as other players who may have gone through dodgy periods......you sound like the sort of bloke that would give him hell the minute he put a foot wrong No I wouldn't. Would only give a player hell if they weren't trying. That can't be aimed at El-Abd. My point is that he is shite. Don't know where you get the assumption I'd give him hell. His opportunity has been and gone and I'm surprised you can't see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I can't remember who City were playing at AG just after El Abd had joined and he was caught out by a nippy forward who skinned him and it led to us conceding. He had a shocking day and after that he was never forgiven by the City faithful. It was a shame for him. He'd come from Brighton were the fans loved him and rated him highly but after that poor game he hardly featured under Cotterill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I would add that he was always looking for some rough and tumble with the opposition. That meant he was not concentrating on the positives and left him wide open to getting cards from refs. He hadn't changed at start of this season, doing exactly that in an Under 21 pre-season game at Taunton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngish Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Chance has been and gone, I feel. Regardless of your opinion of him, none of Cotterill, Pembo, or LJ (even with the switch back to a back four) have felt it necessary to give him another chance, and I think that speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 As others have said, it just didn't work out. I'm pretty sure he, and Cotts probably, knew it was a bad signing straightaway To El-Abd's credit I've never heard him say a bad word about the club, or anyone involved with it. He's had 3 loan spells, just so he can keep playing football - I've got a lot of time for a man like that On a thread here a while back, I saw him in @Bristol two years ago, on a Saturday afternoon when we were playing Walsall at home, he was obviously not involved. He was there with his wife and kids, but looked like he'd rather be anywhere else. If you've ever had a job that has sucked the life, the joy, the pleasure out of everything, you will understand. It happened to me - it's shit, it really does stick you on your arse So to all the people taking shots at the bloke, I'm so happy that you've all had a perfect life. Maybe it will happen to you one day and you will understand it a bit better, and be able to give a more informed opinion. Until then, maybe it's best you keep quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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