AshtonGreat Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Has been outstanding in recent matches for Liverpool. Surely has to start for England at the Euros? Certainly prefer him to Ross Barkley, who's been dire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Has been outstanding in recent matches for Liverpool. Surely has to start for England at the Euros? Certainly prefer him to Ross Barkley, who's been dire It's St Georges Day, not April Fools Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 1 minute ago, RedDave said: It's St Georges Day, not April Fools Day Take it you haven't seen any of Liverpool's recent matches then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Dier, Alli , wilshire (if fit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Dier, Alli , wilshire (if fit) Wilshere 100% on his day on a big game is a fantastic player. A few of his performances have been among my favorite ever, his one against Barcelona when he announced himself and the one against Brazil at Wembley. Guy has every attribute needed to succeed, passing, vision, fantastic driving play on the ball. But his legs are made of fibreglass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Wilshere 100% on his day on a big game is a fantastic player. A few of his performances have been among my favorite ever, his one against Barcelona when he announced himself and the one against Brazil at Wembley. Guy has every attribute needed to succeed, passing, vision, fantastic driving play on the ball. But his legs are made of fibreglass. Don't disagree he's talented, but being he's not played a first team game for donkey's years, and gets injured by strong breezes, it would be pretty mental if he got a place on the plane this summer, when serval other eligible players have been playing out of their skin this season. Maybe next World Cup, if he can play more than zero games a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 23, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 BIG difference between being a good performer for Liverpool and doing it for England IMO nowhere near being a starter for England, squad member at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Take it you haven't seen any of Liverpool's recent matches then? Three good games doesn't make him less limited to international football. You ignoring the previous games where he was bang average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I like him. You can always rely on a steady performance from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 He's certainly a flamboyant character who'd add to the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think the luxury Milner brings you is that he can play in multiple positions and therefore you don't need an extra man for certain areas. However his lack of quality in international football was apparent against Holland. Personally would love the team to be blooded with all youngsters. Alli Barkley Dier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Virtually all the pundits rate Milner very highly and as most of them are ex pro footballers who played the highest level, they should know. He brings stability to the left side, works tirelessly, tracks back, crosses a decent ball, and can nick a goal but the bottom line is that Hodgeson rates him and that means he'll start in for England in the Euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 46 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Dier, Alli , wilshire (if fit) What has Wilshire done this season to earn a place there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 30 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Dier, Alli , wilshire (if fit) FFS Jack Wilshire. Call me old fashioned but I think you need to have actually played football for a decent side regularly to be considered. Personally, I think he'd last about 5 minutes if we're playing the high pressing energetic game that we saw against Germany and that Leicester, Liverpool and Spurs play. Hodgson should play Kane up top on his own, have Vardy, Sturridge and Rooney in reserve and pick players able to play high pressing, energetic football. That means Alli, Milner, Dier, Welbeck, Vardy, Drinkwater, Lallana,Henderson (if fit) It doesn't mean Rooney, Sturridge, Wilshire, Walcott, Barkley. They're used to different style of play and will be useful as substitutes as Barkley was late on in Germany. Watch the first half of the Germany game again and see how many times we either caught them in possession or put them under severe pressure. Mostly it was triggered by Lallana closing a defender but what was impressive was the way the likes of Henderson, Alli and Welbeck followed his lead and we scared them and sowed the seeds for the comeback even though we leaked goals (That's the thing to be concerned about). It's taken the likes of Pochettino and Klopp some time to install this in their players - would be a shame to ditch it for certain disappointment with slower, less intelligent and less energetic players being used. We aren't as technically good as the best sides but we do have players who can play in such a way as to pressurise them out of their comfort zone and take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Whoever wouldn't have Dier in the team must not watch games properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: I think the luxury Milner brings you is that he can play in multiple positions and therefore you don't need an extra man for certain areas. However his lack of quality in international football was apparent against Holland. Personally would love the team to be blooded with all youngsters. Alli Barkley Dier Barkley wouldn't be anywhere near my starting XI. He's been abject for weeks. Wilshere is Darren Anderton mark II and was never world-class anyway. Neither is Milner of course, but the point is he's now finally emerging out of the shadow of Gerrard and Lampard, was recently given the captain's armband, is enjoying getting regular games at Liverpool and in response is now marrying his usual reliability with a genuine attacking threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 30 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: He's certainly a flamboyant character who'd add to the squad. His Twitter parody is #funny Oops # again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Barkley wouldn't be anywhere near my starting XI. He's been abject for weeks. Wilshere is Darren Anderton mark II and was never world-class anyway. Neither is Milner of course, but the point is he's now finally emerging out of the shadow of Gerrard and Lampard, was recently given the captain's armband, is enjoying getting regular games at Liverpool and in response is now marrying his usual reliability with a genuine attacking threat I'm intrigued to see your England team. Please reveal all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 If Wilshere plays at the Euros having played 14 games in two years it's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 31 minutes ago, Robbored said: Virtually all the pundits rate Milner very highly and as most of them are ex pro footballers who played the highest level, they should know. He brings stability to the left side, works tirelessly, tracks back, crosses a decent ball, and can nick a goal but the bottom line is that Hodgeson rates him and that means he'll start in for England in the Euros Yes, he does all of that and sometimes you have to bow to the pros' knowledge on these matters. As a fan I see him as steady and unexceptional but you can't have a team of Matt Le Tissiers as it would lose every game; albeit in a spectacularly entertaining manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Milner will definitely be going to the euros. Roy likes him almost as much as he likes Welbeck and Rooney. He's got experience, stamina and versatility but he's not the most exciting player to watch. Guess we need a bit of experience as the rest of our squad is pretty young and exciting. I just hope an inform Andy Carroll will be going and playing. When he's fit and on form he's a brilliant target man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 46 minutes ago, MarcusX said: What has Wilshire done this season to earn a place there? Exactly, despite Rashford bursting onto the scene at Man Utd with a flurry of goals, Roy said it's very unlikely he'll take the youngster to the Euros because he 'would be taking the place of someone who probably deserved to be there more' but then he said Wilshire has a chance of going if he's fit!!!! So Rashford would be robbing someone's place but Wilshire wouldn't be?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Milner should go but not start, we saw the other night currently he is a class above Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Can Roy justify Lampard and Gerrard in the same side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 1 hour ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Wilshere 100% on his day on a big game is a fantastic player. A few of his performances have been among my favorite ever, his one against Barcelona when he announced himself and the one against Brazil at Wembley. Guy has every attribute needed to succeed, passing, vision, fantastic driving play on the ball. But his legs are made of fibreglass. Exactly waste of a squad member as Walcott oxide an to a degree sturridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezman Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 :laugh: at everyone suggesting Wilshere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Milner has become a little bit underrated now because, conversely, he has been previously overrated but I still think there are better players than him for the Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 1 hour ago, CiderCraig said: Can Roy justify Lampard and Gerrard in the same side? I feel bad for the Ginger Prince, getting shunted to left midfield. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Obviously put in Milner and all the oldies, don't take a risk, don't bring on youth because of the fear of failure. The new crop of players, who play in the Prem day in day out are obviously not mature enough to do the job, even if Ali and Barkley have more talent in one toe than the huffer and puffer has in his whole body. Remember, Rooney was selected for his first Euros playing (not ever present) for a very average Everton team and did rather well, unlike his subsequent appearances in finals when playing for a very successful Man Utd!!!!! Let the boys play and leave the oldies on the bench! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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