AshtonGreat Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 For me, it has to be Woy. Graham Taylor a close second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 The wally with the brolly was pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 100% Woy. McClaren - well we embarassingly didnt qualify for euro 2008 but at least Croatia and Russia who beat us were not bad sides shall I say. He was shocking. Graham Taylor - As bad as McClaren. As for Woy though he takes that crown. 2014 was a shambles and somehow ut was worse this time. From not knowing his best side to accomodating Wayne Rooney. Where do you begin? He had no character whatsoever and played very negative slow football. Dont think we have had s manager quite like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: 100% Woy. McClaren - well we embarassingly didnt qualify for euro 2008 but at least Croatia and Russia who beat us were not bad sides shall I say. He was shocking. Graham Taylor - As bad as McClaren. As for Woy though he takes that crown. 2014 was a shambles and somehow ut was worse this time. From not knowing his best side to accomodating Wayne Rooney. Where do you begin? He had no character whatsoever and played very negative slow football. Dont think we have had s manager quite like him. You have to question why on earth he wasn't sacked after the last world cup when we again stunk the place out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Pirate Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 McLaren, followed by Hodgson, followed by Taylor for me. At least Hodgson got us to a tournament! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Apologies - I forgot about McClaren. Yeah he is undoubtedly second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Super said: You have to question why on earth he wasn't sacked after the last world cup when we again stunk the place out. People also forget we were shocking in world cup qualifying. We drew with Montenegro and Woy came out and said great point. Said a lot really. Euro 2012 may I add we had a 33 year old Pirlo just allowed to stroll through our midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 At least Taylor had a top division full of English players to choose from at the time... Even though that was I believe the worst performance by an England team in my lifetime (which predates 1966) Hodgson, even though he made terrible mistakes during the tournament, has brought on a team of young players (the youngest squad in the tournament) who still have a future. Taylor cobbled together a team of journeymen (with a few decent exceptions) and simply wasn't up to the job; McLaren however failed to deliver with players from 'the Golden Generation'. Overall then I'd say McLaren, followed by Taylor, but worst performance as a manager at a single tournament? I'm afraid that now belongs to Hodgson. Incidentally, for the same reasons I still rank Danny Wilson as possibly our worst manager, for his failure to deliver with such a wealth of resources available to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Besides his shocking tournament record Hodgson reading a pre prepared joke of a statement and not having a minuscule of bottle to answer questions was IMO a complete disgrace and an insult to supporters 3.5 million a year - face the music you bottler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Clearly that result last night was a disgrace, but the key problem is too many crap foreigners clogging up our top league. Hodgson has no charisma but at least it was young players he picked representing us, not gerrard lampard terry et al who would never win us anything. The fact it was iceland is galling but wd were never going to win it anyway, and it just saved us getting humbled 5 nil by someone half decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: At least Taylor had a top division full of English players to choose from at the time... Even though that was I believe the worst performance by an England team in my lifetime (which predates 1966) Hodgson, even though he made terrible mistakes during the tournament, has brought on a team of young players (the youngest squad in the tournament) who still have a future. Taylor cobbled together a team of journeymen (with a few decent exceptions) and simply wasn't up to the job; McLaren however failed to deliver with players from 'the Golden Generation'. Overall then I'd say McLaren, followed by Taylor, but worst performance as a manager at a single tournament? I'm afraid that now belongs to Hodgson. Incidentally, for the same reasons I still rank Danny Wilson as possibly our worst manager, for his failure to deliver with such a wealth of resources available to him. I agree with all of that. Although I think it's generous to give Hodgson credit for bringing young players through. It was the only option open to him, as all the older players retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 No, Roy isn't the worst ever, you can't give that to a man who led England to a 100% qualifying record (despite the deficiencies of the teams we played) and also ensured we qualified for the 2014 World Cup. His tournament management is shocking, but he is still not the worst ever. Graham Taylor is the worst. Steve McLaren is number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 41 minutes ago, simon uk said: Clearly that result last night was a disgrace, but the key problem is too many crap foreigners clogging up our top league. Hodgson has no charisma but at least it was young players he picked representing us, not gerrard lampard terry et al who would never win us anything. The fact it was iceland is galling but wd were never going to win it anyway, and it just saved us getting humbled 5 nil by someone half decent. I do recall a time when for example, English goalkeepers were the best in the world. Yes, the likes of Yashin were there to rival Banks but they were the exception rather than the rule. Shilton, Clemence et al followed on and they fought off a lot of competition from fine English goalkeepers in the top English league teams. Today we probably see in the England squad the only three English keepers playing regularly in the Premier League. It's not good enough. We are improving players from other nationalities at the expense of our national team. I blame Sky, the Premier League, agents, player greed and us supporters - for allowing it to happen. It's time to fight back. German football underwent a root and branch overhaul of its national setup following a poor performance in the 2000 Euros when they were knocked out in the group stage. We need to do likewise one, not just appoint Gareth ******g Southgate and repeat the same cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 The next one. The pool of top division talent to pick from has massively shrunk since Graham Taylor's time. Then he could pick an England striker out of the twenty or thirty that were playing every week in the top division. Now Sky money means the best players in the world come here and the English players don't get much of a look in. That was a poor and threadbare squad. But short of doing something radical like picking every fit English player in the Leicester team and then filling the gaps, basically playing Leicester in the tournament, there wasn't much other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the mole Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Kevin Keenan was so bad everyone's forgot he managed us! keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, I am the mole said: Kevin Keenan was so bad everyone's forgot he managed us! keegan But we did beat the Germans at a major tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Wish people would stop saying that was a pre prepared statement. Slag him for being shite but at least get it accurate. Hodgson and press officer did it in five minutes after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the mole Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Super said: But we did beat the Germans at a major tournament. Still got dumped out the group stage by Romania though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, I am the mole said: Still got dumped out the group stage by Romania though! That Phil Neville tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Does worst ever result = worst ever manager? In that case, Roy Hodgson. .......... the arrogance of not apologising properly for the performance confirms his place in history if shit-ness. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: Does worst ever result = worst ever manager? In that case, Roy Hodgson. .......... the arrogance of not apologising properly for the performance confirms his place in history if shit-ness. Uncle TFR Of course he wouldnt apologise he was too arrogant to listen to the fans wishes on team selection and when it didnt work he bottled it. Worst ever England Manager I am afraid. And his subs vs Wales were desperation not tactical nous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: Of course he wouldnt apologise he was too arrogant to listen to the fans wishes on team selection and when it didnt work he bottled it. Worst ever England Manager I am afraid. And his subs vs Wales were desperation not tactical nous. Why don't you just agree and like my post? He's a knob - and we all agree. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: At least Taylor had a top division full of English players to choose from at the time... And yet he awarded 18 caps to Carlton Palmer. The turnip gets my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 No votes for Capello? 2010 was on a par with 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, BA14 RED said: 100% Woy. Based on what? In terms of win % he's got a better record than Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan, Steve McClaren, Terry Venables & Graham Taylor - now I don't particularly think he's been brill for us but you say he's 100% the worst England manager ever - so what does that make the rest of the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Based on what? In terms of win % he's got a better record than Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan, Steve McClaren, Terry Venables & Graham Taylor - now I don't particularly think he's been brill for us but you say he's 100% the worst England manager ever - so what does that make the rest of the list? Does that matter? Surely it's all down to how well you do in major tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Woy isn't even in the top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 55 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: Of course he wouldnt apologise he was too arrogant to listen to the fans wishes on team selection and when it didnt work he bottled it. Worst ever England Manager I am afraid. And his subs vs Wales were desperation not tactical nous. And bear in mind he's been paid over 9 grand a DAY for that garbage! Best job in the world by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nongazeuse Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Woy is also City's worst ever manager in terms of % age of games won I seem to recall, apart from Steve Coppell who was P2 L2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Don't forget Don Revie, who was crooked as well as being useless. Never could stand Taylor's whining voice, plus he substituted Lineker and bought on Alan Smith in that vital Euro game in Swdden, possibly the most ridiculous decision in English football history. Keegan was a useless manager but IMO is forgiven because as a player along with Brooking he carried the England through dismal times. My vote goes to Sven, an overpaid clown, who ruined a team of talented players who should have done much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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