daored Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Semi final against Portugal, Bale v Ronaldo. Fancy the Welsh to win on Wednesday. But, could they win the tournament? A one off game against , Italy, Germany, France or the mightly Iceland? Would you bet against them? Everything, England lack, team spirit, desire, hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I hope they smash Ronaldo off the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I just hope the FA look and see what a bunch of players from the same divisions, or lower, can achieve when they have a clear game plan and organisation. England need to tear the rule book up and give a motivator and tactician the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think they will make the final but will lose to Germany/Italy/France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As well as Wales have played today, I just can't see them winning the Euros. France will have home advantage, but I suspect who ever wins the Germany/Italy game will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I absolutely hate it, but hard not to say fair play to them. One win away from a major tournament final. Long time since England said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 49 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: I just hope the FA look and see what a bunch of players from the same divisions, or lower, can achieve when they have a clear game plan and organisation. England need to tear the rule book up and give a motivator and tactician the job. Also be willing to pick players outside of the Premier league, Championship players play for Wales and Iceland, why won't we pick them. Andre Gray scored 25 times for Burnley last season and looked the part, Rashford ( I'm not doubting he has talent, but wait till he is actually proven) has played 15? pro games, But he played in the Prem, so Gray doesn't get a look in. To me there is far more desire in Championship players, and certainly a lot of talent in the division, about time some were given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Haha can you imagine if Roy Hodgson picked Andre Gray instead of Harry Kane? I know exactly what you mean though. I mean even the reluctance to pick players from Leicester and West Ham is absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudehopper Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Yes Wales can win this, they impressed me massively this evening. I have no idea how we managed to beat that team 2-1. The reality is though, Italy or Germany will win this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 41 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: Also be willing to pick players outside of the Premier league, Championship players play for Wales and Iceland, why won't we pick them. Andre Gray scored 25 times for Burnley last season and looked the part, Rashford ( I'm not doubting he has talent, but wait till he is actually proven) has played 15? pro games, But he played in the Prem, so Gray doesn't get a look in. To me there is far more desire in Championship players, and certainly a lot of talent in the division, about time some were given a chance. I've thought this for a couple of years now, there's a lot of quality and talent in the Championship, but saying that there is still a lot of untapped talent in the Prem - Troy Deeney for example. Edit - without checking, is Deeney eligible for England, or has he been capped by another country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Greece won it in 2004 against the hosts in the final, Denmark won it in 1992 despite only qualifying because of civil war in Yugoslavia and Leicester just won the Premier League so with that in mind I'd say the Welsh can very much win it. And a big F-You it would be to the estabished order, too !! However, I'm routing for Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, #roe said: Haha can you imagine if Roy Hodgson picked Andre Gray instead of Harry Kane? I know exactly what you mean though. I mean even the reluctance to pick players from Leicester and West Ham is absolutely ridiculous. I would actually say that because the teams we played were happy to 'sit in' it would have probably suited Gray more than Kane, and even probably Vardy. We needed a striker with movement between the edge of the D and the penalty spot. One two's etc, I can't remember us doing that once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think they are a better team than Portugal and then anything could happen in the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Hurts to say it but judging on tonight's impressive performance they have a great chance of making the final, best of luck to the big fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Yes, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Ha...having a laugh aren't you.........that would be like Leicester winning the Premier league...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 7 hours ago, Portland Bill said: I would actually say that because the teams we played were happy to 'sit in' it would have probably suited Gray more than Kane, and even probably Vardy. We needed a striker with movement between the edge of the D and the penalty spot. One two's etc, I can't remember us doing that once. The trouble is if Gray had gone, he`d probably have never got on the pitch a la Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 9 hours ago, #roe said: Haha can you imagine if Roy Hodgson picked Andre Gray instead of Harry Kane? I know exactly what you mean though. I mean even the reluctance to pick players from Leicester and West Ham is absolutely ridiculous. That's the absurd thing. You just know Kane will start the next England game, no questions asked despite him being consistently awful. I would play Andre Gray and Jermain Defoe up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Wales v Iceland final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 14 hours ago, Iron Man said: Yes, sadly. What a sad comment. Wales are a team of British players, including some former Bristol City players. What would be sad about them winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 i don't want to begrudge Wales their success, and I thought they were outstanding last night. But they were fortunate to beat Slovakia with a scuffed shot, lost to England, and beat a very poor Russian side. They were outplayed by Northern Ireland, and won with an own goal. Due to injuries and suspension, Belgium were missing two of their most experienced defenders, which meant their back four had never played together before, and it showed……..especially for the Williams headed equaliser. Wales have been fortunate not to sustain any injuries or suspensions, and so have played with a settled side. However they now have suspensions to contend with, they have had a great run, and everything has gone their way. I will be backing Portugal, because I am certain that the semi final is as far as they are going, which is a fantastic achievement, which puts Englands bunch of wasters to shame. So No they won't win Euro 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 5 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: What a sad comment. Wales are a team of British players, including some former Bristol City players. What would be sad about them winning? For the same reason the majority of Welshmen would prefer anyone but England to win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Why not? Denmark won in '92 when they didn't even qualify for the finals! And then Greece won it a decade or so ago...so it could happen...they stuffed a very good collection of players last night, who just weren't a 'team'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 5 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Wales are a team of British players, including some former Bristol City players..... Cotterill (in the squad not the 'team') and Sam (one appearance for us) Vokes....does that equal 'some'? Or have I forgotten other former players in their 'team'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 3 hours ago, maxjak said: i don't want to begrudge Wales their success, and I thought they were outstanding last night. But they were fortunate to beat Slovakia with a scuffed shot, lost to England, and beat a very poor Russian side. They were outplayed by Northern Ireland, and won with an own goal. Due to injuries and suspension, Belgium were missing two of their most experienced defenders, which meant their back four had never played together before, and it showed……..especially for the Williams headed equaliser. Wales have been fortunate not to sustain any injuries or suspensions, and so have played with a settled side. However they now have suspensions to contend with, they have had a great run, and everything has gone their way. I will be backing Portugal, because I am certain that the semi final is as far as they are going, which is a fantastic achievement, which puts Englands bunch of wasters to shame. So No they won't win Euro 2016. Fair play to them but I was telling myself the same thing before round of 16 that they wont get to the semis out of mainly hope but sadly they could win the tournament. If there is a wake up call to English Football its now, **** changing the leagues and academies we need players who will give it their all and a Manager who isn't just a mouthpiece for the shambles that are in charge of the FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 If Wales win the tournament, it will make every previous betting scandal look like petty fraud. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 20 hours ago, City169 said: Exactly, I have no idea how Flint and Smith didn't make it into the squad! Flint is Welsh (well, if Robson Kanu is Welsh...), and Korey Smith's mum works in Iceland. That's how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Wales can defiantly win it, but with one proviso: that they first beat Portugal. Then they can win it, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: Wales can defiantly win it, but with one proviso: that they first beat Portugal. Then they can win it, yes. The laws of physics say they can win it - in the same way a team of monkeys could, 'technically'. England tested this, and failed. But I agree, Wales 'could' win it. Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Living in Wales, surrounded by Welsh folk with a son who favours Wales over England for both football and rugby, I hope so. The atmosphere over here during the tournament has been nothing short of amazing with a large number going over to France from Caldicot. However, Wales will miss Aaron Ramsey on Wednesday more than they will admit. Him and Bale have been remarkable. Therefore they may struggle to get past Portugal let alone France/Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Vespa Red said: Therefore they may struggle to get past Portugal let alone France/Germany. ...or Iceland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoSheds Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I do hope Wales beat Portugal wednesday evening and make the final, will be a wake up call to the English FA to get themselves sorted out. England fast becoming a joke football nation just like Scotland. So Cmo'n Wales Wednesday just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 38 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: Wales can defiantly win it, but with one proviso: that they first beat Portugal. Then they can win it, yes. I would say they could definitely win it defiantly. Defiance is definitely a great quality to have when you're the underdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I would say they could definitely win it defiantly. Defiance is definitely a great quality to have when you're the underdog. There in with a great chance, mate. Defiantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 23 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: What a sad comment. Wales are a team of British players, including some former Bristol City players. What would be sad about them winning? If Rovers were in the champions league would you be rooting for them to win? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: If Rovers were in the champions league would you be rooting for them to win? Not a chance. Apparently if you hang on a couple of seasons you will find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ...or Iceland... ...or not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Vespa Red said: ...or not.... Quite.....hindsight.....a great thing.....I wouldn't have written them off pre match after what they did to us...but you were right...eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 On 3 July 2016 at 03:13, Rob k said: For the same reason the majority of Welshmen would prefer anyone but England to win! We would need a referednum to prove that squire. I suspect the quiet majority would like any home nation to do well. Me being one of them. I hope they give the arrogant Ronaligal an absolute tonking. Nani no better either. 12 hours ago, Vespa Red said: Living in Wales, surrounded by Welsh folk with a son who favours Wales over England for both football and rugby, I hope so. The atmosphere over here during the tournament has been nothing short of amazing with a large number going over to France from Caldicot. However, Wales will miss Aaron Ramsey on Wednesday more than they will admit. Him and Bale have been remarkable. Therefore they may struggle to get past Portugal let alone France/Germany. Is Ramsey suspended? That will indeed be a huge loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I honestly did want them to do well until I saw them celebrating like mad when we lost to Iceland. That and Bale and how arrogant he has been. I can certainly see them getting to the final now. I wouldn't be surprised if they did win it. Just the up for it underdog spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Atticus said: I honestly did want them to do well until I saw them celebrating like mad when we lost to Iceland. That and Bale and how arrogant he has been. I can certainly see them getting to the final now. I wouldn't be surprised if they did win it. Just the up for it underdog spirit. Yes but you do have to consider that the majority of footballers are:- 1. Younger than the average UK adult and are less mature as a result. 2. In a group of high testosterone motivated individuals who's sole focus is to win. 3. Still carry the badge of honour of Wales and the UK whether they portray it or not. Frankly, we should not care two hoops how they react to a pitiful England performance. Nor should we be so sensitive about it. We should rejoice in the fact that actually these islands that we all share does have the ability. For far too long we have lived in the shadow of virtually every other team in Western Europe. If Wales awake the stupor in all teams, especially England of course, then they will have done a great service to UK football and i for one salute them wholeheartedly for that with or without cheeky bravado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 22 hours ago, MarcusX said: If Rovers were in the champions league would you be rooting for them to win? Not a chance. Clearly many of us on here, myself included, don't consider Wales to be the international equivalent of Rovers. I wish them well on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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