Charliesboots Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Attempted military coup Turkish military blocks Istanbul bridgeshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted July 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Just had a text from an associate who's in Istanbul and it's all going off. Says military on the street and locals saying its a coup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Excuse the ignorance or stupidly, what actually is a coup? Who is trying to take over? I'm confused.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 A coup is the takeover of a state, usually by force by an unelected group, most commonly within the military. It seems that elements of the Turkish Military are trying to seize control of the Turkish state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Thanks @The Bard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, The Bard said: A coup is the takeover of a state, usually by force by an unelected group, most commonly within the military. It seems that elements of the Turkish Military are trying to seize control of the Turkish state. Pretty much this, as a military is the only organisation within a nation to have the capabilities of doing such a thing properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hope tourists, travellers and others are safe. I also hope that Boris doesn't make the situation worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Seems to be a group of junior officers trying it on. Could be far more Islamist than their senior officers. The US gives an awful lot of money to the Turkish military. Gaddafi was a junior officer before the Libyan coup. So was Saddam Hussein before the Iraqi one in 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 25 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Hope tourists, travellers and others are safe. I also hope that Boris doesn't make the situation worse. Even considering to allow Turkey membership to the EU made the situation worse, this has been accident waiting to happen ever since Erdogan took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 LIVE REPORTING https://www.rt.com/on-air/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 This won't be an Islamist coup rather a secular one The Army in Turkey strangely defends the secular democratic state established by Ataturk after First World War. This is actually good news for The West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Even considering to allow Turkey membership to the EU made the situation worse, this has been accident waiting to happen ever since Erdogan took over. Why did possible EU membership make the situation worse? Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Bard Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: This won't be an Islamist coup rather a secular one The Army in Turkey strangely defends the secular democratic state established by Ataturk after First World War. This is actually good news for The West Historically it has done. BUT there were a lot of reports of people detained en route to Syria to join ISIS being released by elements within the Turkish military and police. Almost certainly not as a result of an order from Ankara or Istanbul. The Turkish military is not homogenous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Bard said: Why did possible EU membership make the situation worse? Please explain. Because Erdogan is as dodgy as many of the despots in that area, he ran with the hares and hunted with the foxes, he has run rings around the USA and the EU and we have been running scared and cow towing down to this country for far too long, he has basically held us to ransom and never properly kept his side of the bargain, he has jailed many of his opponents, closed down unfriendly media outlets the guy then tried to start WWIII with Russia, almost certainly he and his family have been profiteering from oil from Isis and yet we still consider them/him OK to be part of the EU, this could be the next Syria if it escalates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 As one of the guys said the president does not look in control of his country. I believe somethin simar happened in the 80's did it not? Problem is you are going to have people breaking the curfew and approaching the military and on the other hand you will have those citizens wanting to support the military takeover. Its gonna get messy! To think they wanted in the EU aswell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can anyone give me a time or date for the next ticket to the moon, preferably one-way? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 56 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: This won't be an Islamist coup rather a secular one The Army in Turkey strangely defends the secular democratic state established by Ataturk after First World War. This is actually good news for The West That actually was my first thought. However the fear now emerging is that these are followers of Fethullah Gulen, a US-based Muslim cleric accused of fomenting unrest, who would be less secular than the current administration. A lot of them got purged. Time will tell I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 46 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: As one of the guys said the president does not look in control of his country. I believe somethin simar happened in the 80's did it not? Problem is you are going to have people breaking the curfew and approaching the military and on the other hand you will have those citizens wanting to support the military takeover. Its gonna get messy! To think they wanted in the EU aswell!! Croatia will shortly be in the EU. 20 years ago it had a pretty severe civil war.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, The Bard said: Croatia will shortly be in the EU. 20 years ago it had a pretty severe civil war.. Yes im well aware of that mate but thats twenty years ago turkey wont have a chance now surely. Not sure how this gonna play out but i fear the casualties will be high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 No coup is good for the west, they normally replace one violent nut job with a worse violent nut job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 9 hours ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Can anyone give me a time or date for the next ticket to the moon, preferably one-way? Thanks. I can sell you a ticket to see Maggie Moon, if that's any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 I think that was a great advert for how powerful social media can be, military coup lasted only a few hours because Erdogan used a weapon of mass destruction, which was facetime. The people responded in their droves to confront the tanks and the soldiers. As Citizen Smith once said, Power to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 13 hours ago, The Bard said: Croatia will shortly be in the EU. 20 years ago it had a pretty severe civil war.. indeed it did after 50 years of relative peace during the cold war era, whereas Turkey has been unstable since at least 1960 with countless military coup's during that time, the place is a powder keg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 21 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: indeed it did after 50 years of relative peace during the cold war era, whereas Turkey has been unstable since at least 1960 with countless military coup's during that time, the place is a powder keg. is the west on another asrse kissing exercise and creating the next Saddam Hussein?, EU membership to boot?. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/17/us-turkey-coup-attempt-fethullah-gulen http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3693976/Narcissist-threatens-MARK-ALMOND-tells-Erdogan-seen-president-abuses-office-benefit-family-cronies.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3693729/Did-Erdogan-STAGE-coup-based-Turkish-cleric-facing-extradition-botched-rebellion-claims-president-orchestrated-plot-justify-clampdown-civil-rights.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 Turkey's Reichstag Fire? The start of an Islamist dictatorship? Turkey coup attempt: Key military officers arrested - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36818401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, Aizoon said: Turkey's Reichstag Fire? The start of an Islamist dictatorship? Turkey coup attempt: Key military officers arrested - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36818401 It appears that Erdogan is using it as a reason to neutralise a lot of his enemies - 2,700 judges sacked, I can`t imagine they were manning the helicopter gunships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 On 15/07/2016 at 23:09, TheCulturalBomb said: Can anyone give me a time or date for the next ticket to the moon, preferably one-way? Thanks. If and when you get there have a word with Alfie and ask him what it's all about.... (sorry ignore that........ I'm just being Cilla .... a lot of people know that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 15 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: It appears that Erdogan is using it as a reason to neutralise a lot of his enemies - 2,700 judges sacked, I can`t imagine they were manning the helicopter gunships. At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, I would point out that everything the Nazi state did between 1933 and 1941 was perfectly legal and constitutional under the emergency powers granted by the Reichstag in response to the fire, which may or may not have been provoked by them. Watch this space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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