samo II Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 After a decent result this weekend, was interested in who people think LJ will put out to face Wycombe. Considering our utterly abysmal record against lower league oppositon in the early stages of this cup, I'd be tempted to play several who didn't make the pitch/bench this weekend, and hope a few players look to try and win first team chances. Don't think Burton will be an easy game, so more chance to rest the better. My thinking we might go 442 with the diamond (Pack at the base, Freeman behind the strikes), and keep Flint/Hodur together to build that partnership (or swap them for Vyner and Williams, if not). So, as below; Max O'Leary Adam Matthews, Aden Flint, Hordur Magnússon, Scott Golbourne Marlon Pack, Josh Brownhill, Jonny Smith, Luke Freeman Aaron Wilbraham, Tammy Abraham Could throw in one or two of the U21s instead of perhaps Brownhill or Pack, and Agard if we're not having him head off soon (if he's not involved Tuesday, he's likely off for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry2157. Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Vyner had a protective boot on yesterday so he won't be playing anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I can't see us playing such a second string side, Wycombe aren't bad and could easily turn us over. I'd like to see.. Lucic Matthews, Flint, Magnusson, Bryan O'Dowda, Pack, Reid, Freeman Abraham, Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Let's be honest the priority is Burton, wouldn't have a problem to see a weakened team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Super said: Let's be honest the priority is Burton, wouldn't have a problem to see a weakened team. I'm not so sure, SL will want to see a full Ashton Gate to showcase it. A draw vs a big prem club, on tv, sell out, under the lights - a great opportunity to show off the new stadium. I think we'll be competing hard on all fronts. We have an abysmal record in the league cup, hope we can be less embarrassing this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 O'Donnell Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne Pack Brownhill Reid Freeman Wilbraham Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Strawberry2157. said: Vyner had a protective boot on yesterday so he won't be playing anytime soon That's not good; hope the lad heals us soon. Perhaps another reason we need another centre back in the squad. 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: I can't see us playing such a second string side, Wycombe aren't bad and could easily turn us over. I'd like to see.. Lucic Matthews, Magnusson, Flint, Bryan O'Dowda, Pack, Reid, Freeman Abraham, Kodjia Depends on what the aim is, and how LJ plans to use the squad. For me; aiming for a win at Burton is vital - after them we've got three sides where I personally would be delighted with a draw each game, so heading into that run with maximum points to allow that is really important. I'd also think it is harsh on Golbourne to miss out, and it's a great match for him to get minutes under his belt. And with Burton likely another game were we hope to be on the front foot a fair bit (hopefully), I'd give Bryan a rest. If there is anything in the knock O'Dowda received, I'd not even make him travel; he's such a talent I'd be really cautious with him. In the highlights of the Burton game, Forest got in behind them repeatedly from the wings, so O'Dowda could make hay against that. Give Freeman or Jonny Smith (or Brownhill or even Arnie or De Girolamo or all of them) a shot; if we're going to have this 'pathway' we need to commit to it, and there are few 'live fire' games better for it than the likes of this. As for set piece games; we've got two of them in Newcastle and Villa coming up, and a good chance at FA Cup 3rd round time -odds are beating Wycombe might just net us yet another game against Gillingham, so worth the risk of a rotating the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 O'Donnell Ayling (think Matthews will play Saturday) / Flint / Williams / Golbourne Pack / Brownhill Smith / Reid / Freeman Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 O,Donnell, Matthews, Ayling, Williams, Golbourne, Pack, Brownhill, Freeman, Reid, Agard and Wilbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 The manager is likely wanting to give players playing time and an opportunity. Golbourne I suspect will play Also possible Starts for the three subs yesterday likely with Mathews in as well Agard is an interesting one. If he's subject to an offer or extended interest I can see him on the bench and the same may apply to Mark Little i agree that the Flint Hodor partnership is important and needs settling time and would play both but Williams is an excellent player. with The knocks to Tomlin and the new lad I suspect they will not start but if fit be on the bench at best which will allow Bryan to be pushed further forward and Freeman behind the forwards Great position to be in, with very decent competition throughout the first team. Would anybody reasonably argue Mathews and Golbourne would weaken the team and Korey Smith will be back soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 In brackets who I would sub on providing there is no injuries etc. ROD Little(Matthews) Flint Williams Golbourne Pack Brownhill Freeman Reid O'Dowda(Tomlin) Abraham(Kodjia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 29 minutes ago, Jp91 said: O'Donnell Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne Pack Brownhill Reid Freeman Wilbraham Abraham Don't think that side will be far away at all. Real value in giving our first choice CB pairing a second chance to gel, otherwise it is a good opportunity to give some fringe players a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Doubt either O'Dowda or Tomlin will start after taking knocks, and ideally not play at all. As others have said perhaps not a bad chance for Flint and Magnusson to gel but wouldn't be surprised to see Williams start over Magnusson. Expect to see Matthews and Golbourne start for fitness and a run out, as well as Reid, Freeman and Wilbs. Would like to see Lucic but expect RO'D to start. 37 minutes ago, Jp91 said: O'Donnell Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne Pack Brownhill Reid Freeman Wilbraham Abraham This isn't a bad shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Want Flint and Mag's to get some time together, rest Bryan after his weekend stint. I think Matthews will be first choice next league game so Ayling at RB. Brownhill looked like he needs some time on the pitch. I am not sure about Smith's situation, so Pack in the middle with Reid and Freeman (they looked sharp and only played 20ish minutes on Saturday). Would not risk Kod's or Tammy, and think it's a perfect chance to get Agard and Wilbs out to show what they can offer. Looking to gel a little, give players a chance to show their stuff, but also a decent team because at the end of the day want to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Could this finally be the year we overcome lower opposition in the league cup? Its a long shot but we can do it if we really believe. U reds!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 O'Donnell Matthews (needs match fitness), Flint, Mags (to help their paring), Golbourne Pack and Smith (again match fitness) Tomlin Freeman Wilbs, Agard (don't want to burn Abraham out after a long summer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 With Abraham only having a brief role yesterday I'd like to see him get 90 under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Selred said: O'Donnell Matthews (needs match fitness), Flint, Mags (to help their paring), Golbourne Pack and Smith (again match fitness) Tomlin Freeman Wilbs, Agard (don't want to burn Abraham out after a long summer). I doubt Smith will be ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Forgive me for being blasé, but I couldn't care less if we we lost. I would much rather we beat burton and crack on in the league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 22 minutes ago, Selred said: O'Donnell Matthews (needs match fitness), Flint, Mags (to help their paring), Golbourne Pack and Smith (again match fitness) Tomlin Freeman Wilbs, Agard (don't want to burn Abraham out after a long summer). I'm thinking that with Abraham arriving, Agard may never play for us again. Could be proved wrong, but looks like he's 4th choice now, and think after being used sparsely last campaign, it might be best for him to get games elsewhere. 10 minutes ago, Kodjia said: I doubt Smith will be ready Agreed; unless the club are putting out serious misinformation )including Smith saying in his own interview he's not ready) then it'll be weeks before he's back in the side. Good aim would be the Newcastle game or Villa; don't want such an important player getting rushed back and knackering himself for longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Red white and red said: Forgive me for being blasé, but I couldn't care less if we we lost. I would much rather we beat burton and crack on in the league! We go out in the first round every year and wins bring confidence. No doubt burton is more important but we are better equipped squad wise to cope now. For me, I would want to give Abraham game time and try to form a partnership with kodjia to see if this is an option when opportunities warrant the more gung-ho approach of the second half yesterday. I would also not risk any knocks and give game time to a couple who started on the bench. So:- ROD Matthews-Flint-Magnusson-Bryan O'Neil Freeman-Pack-Reid Abraham-Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I'd like to see us progress....and therefore play a strong side. I would be playing those likely to seriously in line for first team football to play,. So pick any of the 18 from Saturday plus Golbourne, and go out and win it. Winning breeds confidence, although not saying it's a given. Don't mind the odd player like Jonny Smith being on the bench, but there are more deserving starters, just take subs Reid and Freeman for example. Games cone thick and fast, but also pushing 80-90 minutes now builds stamina fir the long season, plus, it's the reason we now have what I'd call a 'first team squad', so we shouldn't be massively weakened playing any of those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarmyArmy Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 O'Donnell Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne Pack Brownhill O'Dowda Freeman Kodjia Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 hours ago, ollywhyte said: O,Donnell, Matthews, Ayling, Williams, Golbourne, Pack, Brownhill, Freeman, Reid, Agard and Wilbs. Something like this makes the most sense. Would anyone really be bothered if we don't win this game? Of course a big draw in the next round would be nice, but giving players game time in these "lesser" games will be better for us, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Something like this makes the most sense. Would anyone really be bothered if we don't win this game? Of course a big draw in the next round would be nice, but giving players game time in these "lesser" games will be better for us, IMO. Do we get a Europa league place if we win it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, Super said: Do we get a Europa league place if we win it? Yup. But that would put us five years ahead of LJ's project schedule, so we'll just play a B team this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 32 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Something like this makes the most sense. Would anyone really be bothered if we don't win this game? Of course a big draw in the next round would be nice, but giving players game time in these "lesser" games will be better for us, IMO. We have enough in depth (as well as U21's) to put a run together - I think a winning mentality where we go into the season expecting to progress though cup stages as well as do well in the league is important. Just to add, us knocking Liverpool out of the FA Cup in 1994 is still a big thing amongst supporters, cemented our purple/green kit into peoples minds etc... those sort of moments are important for clubs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Super said: Do we get a Europa league place if we win it? I hadn't thought of that. Let's go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I presume there are no cup tie issues with Matthews and Abraham since they`re on season long loans. I guess things like parent clubs allowing them to play in cup matches are written into the agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Personally I'd mix it. Play ones I want to develop an understanding with a few that need minutes. Something like this would be fine for me: O'Leary Matthews Flint Hordor Golbourne Freeman Pack Reid Tomlin Kodjia Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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