Nuno Gomes Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Interesting article. I hope though he hasn't burnt bridges by being so frank. http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2945800/chelsea-have-list-of-english-clubs-the-club-would-not-do-business-with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nuno Gomez said: Interesting article. I hope though he hasn't burnt bridges by being so frank. http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2945800/chelsea-have-list-of-english-clubs-the-club-would-not-do-business-with Think he'll be fine, didn't say anything that you couldn't guess anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if the comments were passed by Chelsea anyway, I imagine it's the message they want to send too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 It's exactly the approach we should be taking with Premier League teams. if Abraham does well, stays reasonably injury free, and ends up doing well next season I can see Chelsea wanting to do more business with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 One of the bits that stood out was that Tammy pushed for the move. Of course there is the element of getting first team football, but if a player didn't like the look of where he was going he wouldn't be pushing for the move to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Sounds like great work yet again from Lee and Ashton. Long may it continue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I like articles like this, it shows people that its not that easy to get a player in even though it is on football manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Chelsea may be right to be apprehensive, but if they've got a list of teams that they won't give people to, they must have a list of garbage players that aren't good enough for either Chelsea or a loan move. Fortunately Tam is a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Interesting read, thanks for the link. I think what this shows is firstly, how good MA is when it comes to talking the talk - if there were any doubts after this transfer window!! Secondly Chelsea must have been very impressed not only with Ashton and Johnson, but the club itself as a whole. For them and Conte to agree to let one of their brighter young talents come on loan to us, shows exactly how far we've come in recent years. It's pretty common knowledge that LJ is held in high regard with quite a lot (it would seem) of different clubs/organisations. Others have said it before, but this is a really exciting time to be involved with the club, whether it be as a supporter, player or member of staff. We finally look to be going places, although that will only be proved by having success on the pitch. At the end of the day Chelsea hold all the cards. If Tammy does well, he's gotten a season at a competitive level of football. If he doesn't play enough games, they recall him and we "go on the list". The interesting thing will be if he does really well this season for us, can't get a guarantee of game time at Chelsea next season, and asks for a move. You would hope if that were the case, then we'd be in a good position to sign him. With a good season with us behind him, if others were to come sniffing around (as will probably be likely), then we need to do as much as possible to make him believe that this is the right club for him ahead of a Southampton, Newcastle or Leicester. Who knows, if the loan goes really well and Hazard needs game time after an injury, we might be in with a chance at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 They have a list of clubs that they won't do business with, but loaned 2 players to Rovers. I suspect that their selection criteria isn't very detailed..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: They have a list of clubs that they won't do business with, but loaned 2 players to Rovers. I suspect that their selection criteria isn't very detailed..! Obviously a punishment for those two. Regularly turning up late for training I reckon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Wilde Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 'Looks like your not on the list so we can do business with you, God knows what team this is scribbled out next to Todd Kane's name though' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, BCFCFreeman said: 'Looks like your not on the list so we can do business with you, God knows what team this is scribbled out next to Todd Kane's name though' We didn't do anything wrong with Todd Kane. It was Chelsea who messed is about with him. We should send Tammy back and refuse to take anymore of their players. That'll teach them..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, sephjnr said: Chelsea may be right to be apprehensive, Why ? They are quick to forget we sold them Chris Garland !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Potential knock on effects as well, other premier league teams see the likes of Chelsea happy to send players on loan to us as we do well by them could see other big teams happy to send players here. Man U and Frazier Campbell in 07/08 sticks to mind about an occasion where it seemed pretty clear they didn't want us to be his destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, EnderMB said: It's exactly the approach we should be taking with Premier League teams. if Abraham does well, stays reasonably injury free, and ends up doing well next season I can see Chelsea wanting to do more business with us. Not only that....but if he really does well and progresses, it may show over Premier Leagup clubs what we can do to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Kind of disappointing to read that in one way, I mean if it was that hard to get him on loan and Conte liking him a lot, I can't see them letting us take him on permanently so I guess it'll just be one season before we need to find another striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Spike said: Kind of disappointing to read that in one way, I mean if it was that hard to get him on loan and Conte liking him a lot, I can't see them letting us take him on permanently so I guess it'll just be one season before we need to find another striker. I don't think we see him a realistic permanent transfer, every chance he may get loaned out again next season though but depends whether Chelsea want to try him at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, Spike said: Kind of disappointing to read that in one way, I mean if it was that hard to get him on loan and Conte liking him a lot, I can't see them letting us take him on permanently so I guess it'll just be one season before we need to find another striker. we have no chance of signing him, unless we part with about 20 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Our best chance to keep him would be another loan season, not beyond the realms of possibility if we are promoted....Just sayin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, Spike said: Kind of disappointing to read that in one way, I mean if it was that hard to get him on loan and Conte liking him a lot, I can't see them letting us take him on permanently so I guess it'll just be one season before we need to find another striker. Surely nobody expected us to have a chance of a permanent deal with him anyway. Everybody knows how highly thought of he is at Chelsea. Our only hope of keeping him longer term (another season) will be to go up and be the lower Prem club that they will want him on loan at next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Youngster's don't always develop the way you want. We might be seeing the best of Tammy right now, I personally don't think so but we never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 13 minutes ago, Monkeh said: we have no chance of signing him, unless we part with about 20 million Which until the last transfer window seemed absolutely ridiculous for a championship side to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: Which until the last transfer window seemed absolutely ridiculous for a championship side to comprehend. For one without premier league parachute payments, it is incomprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Interesting stuff and worth pointing out this website is just recycling an original BP report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Says it all about why he was appointed and how we've done the best summer business of any club in the Championship. "Had we tried to sign the players we brought in during the early and middle parts of the window towards the end, they would have been far more difficult deals to do and far more expensive. We felt prices were going to escalate, they did and a lot of clubs got caught. We bought at good prices, sold expensively and, financially, are in pretty good shape." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 8 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: They have a list of clubs that they won't do business with, but loaned 2 players to Rovers. I suspect that their selection criteria isn't very detailed..! More likely they have never lent them any players before therefore they haven't made it to the list. lets see what happens after these two have had some time there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 29 minutes ago, JonDolman said: It has been refreshing to hear so much of what goes on behind the scenes at the club. So much information about how much weve made on players, how much we've spent. How we've got deals done, why we sold players, honest assessments on players good and bad points, things they've done wrong, training methods, and all sorts. However I think it is only a matter of time before they say too much. And i wonder if saying about Chelsea having a list of clubs they won't loan players to might be the kind of information Chelsea don't really want Ashton to be telling everyone. Hopefully they don't mind because if we can get any young players on a regular basis then there are no better youngsters than Chelsea's. MA only repeated Chelsea's point of view? I'm sure the clubs that annoyed Chelsea are well aware. MA would have scripted that with Chelsea, or at least the outline. Chelsea would have also wanted that statement out to other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Says it all about why he was appointed and how we've done the best summer business of any club in the Championship. "Had we tried to sign the players we brought in during the early and middle parts of the window towards the end, they would have been far more difficult deals to do and far more expensive. We felt prices were going to escalate, they did and a lot of clubs got caught. We bought at good prices, sold expensively and, financially, are in pretty good shape." Said the sane in another post that we wouldn't have got Tomlin for c£3m had we waited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posset red Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Said the sane in another post that we wouldn't have got Tomlin for c£3m had we waited. Waited for what though ? Surely it's common sense for every club who has a manager at the time to do business early on or am I missing something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Posset red said: Waited for what though ? Surely it's common sense for every club who has a manager at the time to do business early on or am I missing something ? Waited for other clubs to miss out on primary targets. I'm sure other clubs in this league would've fancied Tomlin by August if we hadn't got him and they'd missed out on their targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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