alanpayne Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Start paying on the day! It has just been announced that pay on the night at Sheffield Weds incurs no price increase so all of us who have already bought our tickets in advance from City, have contributed an additional £1 to BCFC! For those of you who are not aware, the away club also receive 10% of any sales they make. So if we all started to pay on the day, (apart from the few cases where there might be a sell out) it would hit he club in the pocket and perhaps they would wake up to our concerns regarding this stealth tax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hardly a stealth tax. £1 a game, £23 over a season, if you go to every away game. Is that worth getting worked up about? It probably costs BCFC more in admin costs than £1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, alanpayne said: Start paying on the day! It has just been announced that pay on the night at Sheffield Weds incurs no price increase so all of us who have already bought our tickets in advance from City, have contributed an additional £1 to BCFC! For those of you who are not aware, the away club also receive 10% of any sales they make. So if we all started to pay on the day, (apart from the few cases where there might be a sell out) it would hit he club in the pocket and perhaps they would wake up to our concerns regarding this stealth tax! Source re: the 10% of any sales made? The EFL regulations say: "For League Matches only, the Away Club shall be entitled to a commission representing 5 (five) per cent of the aggregate sales (exclusive of VAT) of tickets sold on behalf of the Home Club, unless otherwise agreed between the Clubs.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 26 minutes ago, alanpayne said: Start paying on the day! It has just been announced that pay on the night at Sheffield Weds incurs no price increase so all of us who have already bought our tickets in advance from City, have contributed an additional £1 to BCFC! For those of you who are not aware, the away club also receive 10% of any sales they make. So if we all started to pay on the day, (apart from the few cases where there might be a sell out) it would hit he club in the pocket and perhaps they would wake up to our concerns regarding this stealth tax! What a nightmare Totally agreed with the complaints around a booking fee hidden until payment but when the club openly tells fans that a £1 fee will be applied to help our club with admin etc I dont really see the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 P'boro' charge their fans a fiver if they book up for away travel with anything other than cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 23 minutes ago, Alessandro said: Hardly a stealth tax. £1 a game, £23 over a season, if you go to every away game. Is that worth getting worked up about? It probably costs BCFC more in admin costs than £1. It was stated by the club previously that the cost to the club is £2 so they are "absorbing" 50%. I assume this applies to both home and away tickets but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 28 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: It was stated by the club previously that the cost to the club is £2 so they are "absorbing" 50%. I assume this applies to both home and away tickets but I could be wrong. They get the remaining £1 through commission as stated above. Selling away tickets does not incur a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, pride of the west said: They get the remaining £1 through commission as stated above. Selling away tickets does not incur a loss. It probably would without the £1 booking fee. That's why it's there. Why do people have a problem with it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The booking fee is more than reasonable I think. At the end of the day you are paying for a service. It's the fact that it was never published until you had booked the tickets and were on the payment screen which wound people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I don't get why there has to be any booking fee, full stop. Cubs employ people to deal with tickets and other things, clubs pay these people a wage, or are they saying that we need to pay more to pay these peoples wages? Why should we pay ( say) £26 for a £25 ticket, it's nothing more than a rip off. When I go into a shop and pay £1 for a bar of chocolate, they don't charge me £1.10!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: I don't get why there has to be any booking fee, full stop. Cubs employ people to deal with tickets and other things, clubs pay these people a wage, or are they saying that we need to pay more to pay these peoples wages? Why should we pay ( say) £26 for a £25 ticket, it's nothing more than a rip off. When I go into a shop and pay £1 for a bar of chocolate, they don't charge me £1.10!! There's a clear distinction though in the Club don't set the prices nor have any control of their commission. The club can't do anything to encourage more to go with competitive pricing so the admin involved in a Tuesday night to Norwich will be a burden. I think this is the only way the club can control some decent income to go towards managing the cost. Absolutely fair in my eyes therefore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The main thing that pisses me off about these fees is that it's usually per ticket when the costs are only incurred per transaction. If you buy multiple tickets in one transaction that does not cost the retailer any more at all and it's a complete con to pretend it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Portland Bill said: I don't get why there has to be any booking fee, full stop. Cubs employ people to deal with tickets and other things, clubs pay these people a wage, or are they saying that we need to pay more to pay these peoples wages? Why should we pay ( say) £26 for a £25 ticket, it's nothing more than a rip off. When I go into a shop and pay £1 for a bar of chocolate, they don't charge me £1.10!! No, but they are charging you £1 for something that costs 40p to buy. We make nothing/very little on away tickets, so it does make sense, using your rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I thought this debate originally started because City charged a booking fee when it was "pay on the day" and the fee was wasn't advertised? Have Sheffield Wednesday advised that there will be no additional fee, or will this be the same scenario as at City versus Portsmouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 13, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Maybe not go at all and then you save even more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 You won't save anything over season though as in general prices go up for pay on the day by £2 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Have you ever bought a ticket from ticket master? That and many other online ticket services charge you a hell of a lot more PER TICKET. As others have said, it's not a hidden charges. If you feel so strongly about it, then yeah do as you say. I seriously doubt that you would get many joining your crusade though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 13, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, Taz said: Have you ever bought a ticket from ticket master? That and many other online ticket services charge you a hell of a lot more PER TICKET. Not sure that I would ever compare our online ticketing system to anything Ticketmaster have used in the past 15 years or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, phantom said: Not sure that I would ever compare our online ticketing system to anything Ticketmaster have used in the past 15 years or so I would. Ticketmaster can be a complete shambles. They managed to sell me 6 tickets for the play-off final in 2008 despite only wanting 2 and then told me it was my fault and refused to deal with it despite City raising issue with them. And the London 2012 process run by Ticketmaster wasn't exactly seamless either in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, phantom said: Not sure that I would ever compare our online ticketing system to anything Ticketmaster have used in the past 15 years or so The point I was making, was that £1 a ticket compared to other online outlets, is very good. I imagine there aren't many(any) that won't charge you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, Taz said: The point I was making, was that £1 a ticket compared to other online outlets, is very good. I imagine there aren't many(any) that won't charge you. Yes but Ticketmaster doesn't own arena's or artists so has to make it's share somewhere. Bristol Sport get the profit from the ticket sales already before booking fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Selred said: Yes but Ticketmaster doesn't own arena's or artists so has to make it's share somewhere. Bristol Sport get the profit from the ticket sales already before booking fees. We get £1.13 per ticket from Sheffield Wednesday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 13, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: We get £1.13 per ticket from Sheffield Wednesday! Just curious, why would an away team get any money from the gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, phantom said: Just curious, why would an away team get any money from the gate? Because them's the rules. Rule 34.2.3 - http://www.efl.com/global/section5.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, phantom said: Just curious, why would an away team get any money from the gate? As already posted below. 5% of ticket sales excl. VAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 4 hours ago, Selred said: Yes but Ticketmaster doesn't own arena's or artists so has to make it's share somewhere. Bristol Sport get the profit from the ticket sales already before booking fees. But they have to print the tickets, send the tickets, and in the case of phone sales, pay the person to answer the phones. The club also needs to make a profit. £1 isn't extortionate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Taz said: But they have to print the tickets, send the tickets, and in the case of phone sales, pay the person to answer the phones. The club also needs to make a profit. £1 isn't extortionate. Do you pay £1 on top of other items in shops because they pay the cashier, print a reciept etc? Should always be included in the price in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Selred said: Do you pay £1 on top of other items in shops because they pay the cashier, print a reciept etc? Should always be included in the price in my opinion. Yes, you pay a mark up on the cost price in a shop, which goes towards paying for the staffing, rent, overheads, rates etc. We can't increase the price of away tickets to make a mark up, so we add a £1 charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Yes, you pay a mark up on the cost price in a shop, which goes towards paying for the staffing, rent, overheads, rates etc. We can't increase the price of away tickets to make a mark up, so we add a £1 charge. But we get a % of the ticket sales anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 27 minutes ago, Selred said: But we get a % of the ticket sales anyway.... 5% = £1.13 per ticket based on Sheffield Wednesday. That won't cover hardly any costs. Do you really begrudge paying £1 to our club so that ticketing costs are covered..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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