Kid in the Riot Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 3 hours ago, yardy said: I think that's a bit naive to say that with Conor's striking abilities! I can't see them fighting anyway, i don't expect Mayweather would like to lose his legacy. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 10 hours ago, yardy said: I think that's a bit naive to say that with Conor's striking abilities! I can't see them fighting anyway, i don't expect Mayweather would like to lose his legacy. Mayweather would outclass McGregor in boxing, the same way McGregor would school Mayweather if it was MMA rules. If they did end up fighting, using boxing rules, McGregor would be exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 12 hours ago, Tomarse said: More likely to see them have some sort of shite battle in WWE Battle? WWE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Battle? WWE? Sorry omitted scripted jelly wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Mayweather would outclass McGregor in boxing, the same way McGregor would school Mayweather if it was MMA rules. If they did end up fighting, using boxing rules, McGregor would be exposed. How about Kick Boxing? Keeps it on the feet to favour Mayweather but allows Conor to strike in a way Mayweather is not used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: How about Kick Boxing? Keeps it on the feet to favour Mayweather but allows Conor to strike in a way Mayweather is not used to. McGregor would win, longer reach and big power from kicks. Floyd would have to learn a whole new discipline before that could happen. I was reading a thread on Sherdog the MMA forum where they thought a reasonable compromise might be 4lb MMA gloves and rules where clinching and strikes to the thigh area were allowed. That would be quite interesting but still think Mayweather would win easily if he was able to pick him off without McGregor getting too close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 15 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: McGregor would win, longer reach and big power from kicks. Floyd would have to learn a whole new discipline before that could happen. I was reading a thread on Sherdog the MMA forum where they thought a reasonable compromise might be 4lb MMA gloves and rules where clinching and strikes to the thigh area were allowed. That would be quite interesting but still think Mayweather would win easily if he was able to pick him off without McGregor getting too close. Yes you are quite right. If I was Conor I'd be pushing for straight up boxing. Even if he lost the fight, he wouldn't lose really as he isn't a 'boxer'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Yes you are quite right. If I was Conor I'd be pushing for straight up boxing. Even if he lost the fight, he wouldn't lose really as he isn't a 'boxer'. Nothing to lose for him really, would be expected to lose, massive payday either way, expands his fame and brand (strengthens his case for equity in that UFC brand he wants).. but if he somehow wins.. the prestige would be amazing. He won't go into training for that fight if it happened preparing for a loss either.. he'd believe he can win as bonkers as it sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Nothing to lose for him really, would be expected to lose, massive payday either way, expands his fame and brand (strengthens his case for equity in that UFC brand he wants).. but if he somehow wins.. the prestige would be amazing. He won't go into training for that fight if it happened preparing for a loss either.. he'd believe he can win as bonkers as it sounds Hmmm, watching Conor in interviews, when he actually decides to answer a question sensibly, I think that he is a very intelligent man, at least when it come to fighting. He knows that he would be a massive underdog. I suppose that he'd expect to lose but have the belief that he could win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Can't believe what I'm reading here,Conor wouldn't beat any half decent boxer in the ring let alone mayweather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 16 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Mayweather would outclass McGregor in boxing, the same way McGregor would school Mayweather if it was MMA rules. If they did end up fighting, using boxing rules, McGregor would be exposed. Well yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Hmmm, watching Conor in interviews, when he actually decides to answer a question sensibly, I think that he is a very intelligent man, at least when it come to fighting. He knows that he would be a massive underdog. I suppose that he'd expect to lose but have the belief that he could win. It's all about self belief. Sportsmen like him with his sort of mentality do not believe they can lose. It's drummed into them by coaches. There's a type of psychology behind it (can't remember the name) where the athlete is made to picture winning that fight or match in everything they do. It's quite interesting and I'll try and find a link. He wouldn't be allowed to believe he could lose because if he did, he would be at a disadvantage. At top level where the 0.1%'s make a difference it's seen as useful. I would really like to see this fight. Not because I think it would be a good contest but because it would be fun. The buildup would be fun and all the promo stuff. 2 hours ago, yardy said: Well yea... Did I misunderstand what you wrote? I thought you were saying McGregor has a chance if they fought with boxing rules.. he would lose easily under boxing rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 9 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: It's all about self belief. Sportsmen like him with his sort of mentality do not believe they can lose. It's drummed into them by coaches. There's a type of psychology behind it (can't remember the name) where the athlete is made to picture winning that fight or match in everything they do. It's quite interesting and I'll try and find a link. He wouldn't be allowed to believe he could lose because if he did, he would be at a disadvantage. At top level where the 0.1%'s make a difference it's seen as useful. I would really like to see this fight. Not because I think it would be a good contest but because it would be fun. The buildup would be fun and all the promo stuff. Did I misunderstand what you wrote? I thought you were saying McGregor has a chance if they fought with boxing rules.. he would lose easily under boxing rules Where have i said Conor would win under boxing rules? are you seeing things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 18/11/2016 at 02:09, yardy said: I think that's a bit naive to say that with Conor's striking abilities! I can't see them fighting anyway, i don't expect Mayweather would like to lose his legacy. 8 minutes ago, yardy said: Where have i said Conor would win under boxing rules? are you seeing things? ?? You're clearly saying he's got a chance. I didn't say you said he'd 'win'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: ?? You're clearly saying he's got a chance. I didn't say you said he'd 'win'. Ok ok if they do fight then yes Conor does have a chance, as i said before with his striking abilities you can't write him off. Of course if it was a straight boxing fight then Floyd would be a massive favourite to win. If they fought with a mix of boxing and mma then Conor would be favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 18/11/2016 at 07:27, Captain Hindsight said: Battle? WWE? Brock Lesnar was the UFC heavyweight champion coming from WWE. Yes of course wrestling is scripted etc but a number of wrestlers do come from an amateur wrestling/MMA background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 55 minutes ago, yardy said: Ok ok if they do fight then yes Conor does have a chance, as i said before with his striking abilities you can't write him off. Of course if it was a straight boxing fight then Floyd would be a massive favourite to win. If they fought with a mix of boxing and mma then Conor would be favourite. Except that won't happen because Floyd isn't a pro fighter in any other disciplines than boxing. At best it would be a boxing match with enhanced clinching allowed. Even with his power striking he's still not going to catch Floyd very easily. Mayweather is one of the best defensive boxers of all time and has fought plenty of pro boxers with a hard punch. It would be clear in that arena the gulf in class at boxing between one of the greatest boxers ever and a McGregor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Except that won't happen because Floyd isn't a pro fighter in any other disciplines than boxing. At best it would be a boxing match with enhanced clinching allowed. Even with his power striking he's still not going to catch Floyd very easily. Mayweather is one of the best defensive boxers of all time and has fought plenty of pro boxers with a hard punch. It would be clear in that arena the gulf in class at boxing between one of the greatest boxers ever and a McGregor. I don't think clinching would be allowed, all i'd want is for them to use ufc gloves and for Floyd to get hit in the face by Conor's left and hopefully Floyd ends up on his ass. In terms of striking ability Conor is the best i have ever seen in ufc followed by Anderson (the spider) Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Slightly off topic - Bridgwater mma fighter Mark Godbeer makes his UFC debut today in the heavyweight division over in Belfast. Mark is fighting unbeaten american Justin Ledet on Fight Pass between 18:45 and 20:00 Good luck Mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 5 hours ago, yardy said: I don't think clinching would be allowed, all i'd want is for them to use ufc gloves and for Floyd to get hit in the face by Conor's left and hopefully Floyd ends up on his ass. In terms of striking ability Conor is the best i have ever seen in ufc followed by Anderson (the spider) Silva. Good luck with the hitting part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Love to see the shitstorm if Rooney posted something like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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