Ago Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 "Sing up you c****" "Whats the point in f***** being here if you aren't gonna sing?" "We're an embarsasment - We're an embarassment" etc. etc. This is something that has come up at both the QPR game and the Birmingham game yesterday. There was a thread on here about the atmosphere at QPR being flat, and while yesterday at St. Andrews wasn't too bad it still wasn't up to the usual City away standard imho- but the blokes who shout this sort of stuff - I reckon are as much a part of the problem as these "day trippers" they like to shout abuse at. Now this might be a hard one to get through some of these bloke's heads, cos it's quite clear we're dealing with some special cases here - but guess what - calling your own fans c**** isn't going to make them want to sing your little songs with you. Do you know what happens instead? You start singing, and then other fans who bloody love a sing song instinctively feel - why should I sing along with these p****s? Also you are p*****g everybody off. Immediately there's an uneasy feeling of hostility. Nobodys speaking out and having a go, partly because the main genius behind calling his own fans c****s and w*****s had his young son with him, and also because a good section of our fanbase aren't at a game to cause a ruck and have a row with someone! (How mad is that?) But to actually watch and enjoy a game of football. Something which is hard to do in the company of these people. So if anyone reading this who has/or thinks that the "abuse/intimidate our fans into singing" method is the way to improve the away day atmosphere. I promise you mate, it doesn't work. Hopefully you will stop and think - actually maybe I'm part of the problem and should probably stop being a belter and just enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 20, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Agree with you, heard some idiot constantly shouting this out yesterday, cringeworthy behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANWRENBCFC4LIFE Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Bloody whipper snappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerRed Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I couldn't hear any of that probably thanks to the Brummie who had a voice like a crow. Agree with Ago's sentiments though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 There's few things more cringey than a grown man getting angry because people aren't singing songs at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 They're not in my "Not being a clown" group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 How's it going in that group, Libs? Many in?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star of a gunner Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 The lack of alcohol doesn't help , a couple of pints of cider at half time always gets me going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, EnclosureSurge said: How's it going in that group, Libs? Many in?! Not many, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 There is, frankly, only one solution. Report those persistently using foul and abusive language to a steward and let them deal with it. And maybe it's time for the Club to start dealing with it at home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 They are obviously idiots. Totally agree that something needs to be done both home and away. We all know where it happens at home games so maybe section 82 need to have a word with the offenders. S82 try hard but they aren't going to increase their numbers with the abuse stemming from "their end". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I thought you were going to say "Being a Birmingham City supporter". Libraryesque Although, for the first time, I heard the song that ends in the c-word and thought "I don't want any of that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob k Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Nomad said: They are obviously idiots. Totally agree that something needs to be done both home and away. We all know where it happens at home games so maybe section 82 need to have a word with the offenders. S82 try hard but they aren't going to increase their numbers with the abuse stemming from "their end". How does everything go back to S82, it's getting ridiculous that they now have to take responsibility for some fans calling another fan a **** away from home I go away with some of the lads who would be known as influential people within S82 and I can tell you for a fact we keep ourselves to ourselves on away days preferring to do our own thing and certainly don't go around calling other fans *****. People can be responsible for themselves, **** all to do with S82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Having a clown sitting behind you who constantly moans and slags the team off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Who is this mysterious Section 82 ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, shelts said: Who is this mysterious Section 82 ......... The first rule of Section 82......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 From reading just the title of this thread my immediate thought was 'jokes about genocide'. But other valid points have been made as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I think it's the fault of the Conservative party. Ban them I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Seems to me this sort of thing started when some ***** from the atyeo, quite a lot of them actually, aimed songs at the dolman calling them c***s which was subsequently passed off as "banter". Well, I'm sorry but the minute you start slagging off your own fans when you have a) plenty of away fans to aim you vitriol at and b) a team to support, then it's a slippery slope to the sort of shit the OP experienced yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, bakes said: Having a clown sitting behind you who constantly moans and slags the team off! FFS!! They're everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Dream Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Nomad said: They are obviously idiots. Totally agree that something needs to be done both home and away. We all know where it happens at home games so maybe section 82 need to have a word with the offenders. S82 try hard but they aren't going to increase their numbers with the abuse stemming from "their end". i assume the person in question told you he has a season ticket in the atyeo & is an active member of s82? Otherwise I see no reason for you suggesting he/she is from section 82? As it is I was near the back of the stand to the right & think I know who you are talking about, if so I can honestly say I have never seen them in the atyeo (I may be wrong of course & do not want to jump to any conclusions that this person sits in a certain area of the ground without knowing the truth, but I suppose that's just my opinion). Lets not spread rumours about other city fans just because they don't support the team in the same way you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I must admit I sit at games. I like to clap and sing on the odd occasion. Mostly I'm biting my nails nails engrossed in the game so it passes me by. Anyone the same as me?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Okay I'm going to play Devils Advocate so calm down before you get yourselves worked up. Before I start I just want to say that calling anyone a **** in any circumstances really isn't on (bar a few exceptions). However may I present some mitigating circumstances. It is not socially easy to start a song or maintain in when few are joining in. If I was making an effort I'd quite like some people to join in to stop me from looking like a 'billy no mates'. Personally if I'm singing on my own at City and I occasionally do, if nothing comes of it after a few times my frustration leads to me just shutting up. However I can see why frustrations may come out in other ways. Like I said not excusing the guy but in my experience it is very frustrating when you try hard but feel like you're getting no reward at the cost of social embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: From reading just the title of this thread my immediate thought was 'jokes about genocide'. Pretty strange comment if you don't mind me saying - thinking a thread title about lack of atmosphere at a football match could be encouraging jokes about the deliberate murder of large groups of people?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 5 hours ago, cidered abroad said: There is, frankly, only one solution. Report those persistently using foul and abusive language to a steward and let them deal with it. And maybe it's time for the Club to start dealing with it at home games. 5 hours ago, Nomad said: They are obviously idiots. Totally agree that something needs to be done both home and away. We all know where it happens at home games so maybe section 82 need to have a word with the offenders. S82 try hard but they aren't going to increase their numbers with the abuse stemming from "their end". 2 hours ago, RedRaw said: Seems to me this sort of thing started when some ***** from the atyeo, quite a lot of them actually, aimed songs at the dolman calling them c***s which was subsequently passed off as "banter". Well, I'm sorry but the minute you start slagging off your own fans when you have a) plenty of away fans to aim you vitriol at and b) a team to support, then it's a slippery slope to the sort of shit the OP experienced yesterday. How odd, the OP didn't mention the Atyeo or 'S82' but they've somehow been dragged into this. I've heard that sort of thing happen for years, it's not a new phenomenon after that isolated incident last year which still gets referenced an inordinate amount of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobArnold10 Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 This isn't a new thing. Had it st Leicester a few years back. Was called a "speccy c***" because I wasn't signing at the time. Oddly neither were they really, but hey that just summed it up for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 hours ago, shelts said: Who is this mysterious Section 82 ......... the prisoner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 hours ago, Chivs said: I thought you were going to say "Being a Birmingham City supporter". Libraryesque Although, for the first time, I heard the song that ends in the c-word and thought "I don't want any of that". I'm with you there, Chivs. And on a more esoteric point, I've never understood why the "c-word" is a term of abuse. Speaking personally, I like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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