BobBobSuperBob Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, spudski said: Interesting...thanks for the info. It'll be very interesting to see when he eventually plays for us again. Thought so too Spud !! Agree - will be interesting to see how soon he's back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Ha....lots of people criticising Lee for constantly changing the team, now everyone wants to change the team! Personally, I'd stick with the same starting 11 as Tuesday. Yes Brentford had chances, but that was largely down to defensive errors, and at the same time we created some great scoring opportunities ourselves, and if one of those had gone in I believe we would have gone on to win 2 or 3 - 0. Tough decision I know to drop Tomlin again, but it really can't help the other players confidence to be dropped again after one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, ooRya said: Ha....lots of people criticising Lee for constantly changing the team, now everyone wants to change the team! Personally, I'd stick with the same starting 11 as Tuesday. Yes Brentford had chances, but that was largely down to defensive errors, and at the same time we created some great scoring opportunities ourselves, and if one of those had gone in I believe we would have gone on to win 2 or 3 - 0. Tough decision I know to drop Tomlin again, but it really can't help the other players confidence to be dropped again after one game. It's going to be interesting to see how certain older pro's, who have played at a higher level, Like Tomlin and GoN, will react to being dropped or even asked to do something they are not so sure about. You are either Professional and listen to your manager and trust their judgement, or unprofessional and react like you know better. I've always been impressed by Wilbs attitude, of getting on and doing what he's been asked and not complaining, reacting in a positive way and seeing it for the good of the team. You find this with certain players, not saying it's the case here, but when you have a younger manager close to your own age, some find it hard to 'respect' them for the position they've earned. This happened here not so long ago. A player became manager, and someone in the team who had played with him, just couldn't except being told what to do from him, or even acknowledge him as 'Gaffer'. That player didn't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 53 minutes ago, spudski said: Interesting...thanks for the info. It'll be very interesting to see when he eventually plays for us again. Five to ten days, LJ said on Radio Briz, though not confirmed since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Lucic in goal. Same back four as Tuesday. Although for me Magnusson's form has dropped off a cliff and I'd be tempted to play Moore as he impressed me against Hull. Pack, Reid, Paterson, Tomlin and Freeman in midfield. Those five made up the midfield away at Fulham and home to Leeds and I thought they were two excellent performances and we haven't played with that midfield again since. Tammy up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Lucic in goal. Same back four as Tuesday. Although for me Magnusson's form has dropped off a cliff and I'd be tempted to play Moore as he impressed me against Hull. Pack, Reid, Paterson, Tomlin and Freeman in midfield. Those five made up the midfield away at Fulham and home to Leeds and I thought they were two excellent performances and we haven't played with that midfield again since. Tammy up front. Seriously? I thought he was a candidate for MOM on Tuesday personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Lucic Matthews II Flint II Mag II Golbourne Brownhill II Pack Freeman II Reid II Tomlin Tammy Fielding/O'Donnell - Moore - Smith - O'Dowda - Patterson - Wilbs - Engvall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 12 hours ago, nickolas said: Fielding/Lucic moore flint mags Matthews pack reid odowda Tomlin tammy engvall 3412 for me. Need to pack the midfield to gain control of the game. This is also the only way we can cope with two up top otherwise we are powderpuff in midfield. GON is injured so maybe could start if not. Tomlin has to play central and further forward. I see Preston used 532 tonight at forest so interesting to see if they do that again. I am expecting another bore if i am honest. I think you'll find we're only allowed 1 GK. Shame but rules are rules ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, ooRya said: Seriously? I thought he was a candidate for MOM on Tuesday personally. Seriously? He was distinctly average. Set up on a plate one of the one on one chances by flapping. His long throws offer nothing and when we needed assured quick, short passes from the back in the last 20 he was the one aimlessly lumping it upfield. I like him and rate him but if Moore ever gets his chance as a direct swap - I think Magnusson will spend the rest of the season on the bench as Moore is definitely a class act at central defence and my only concern is he gets fed up and chips on !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Lucic Matthews Flint Magnusson Golbourne O'Neil Reid Tomlin Paterson Freeman Abraham Pack for O'Neil if he is indeed injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 We desperately need a settled formation and a settled team. Too many changes. Also, I heard this morning LJ say if Fielding is not fit it will be either Lucic or ROD in goal. What is going on? Surely it must be Lucic? This just serves to illustrate hit and miss selections. We need a formation that maximises our strengths. For me we have problems in key areas of the pitch and are always open to concede even when we have been playing well. Lee Tomlin is part of the problem because he must be included but we have not yet found a formation that has utilised his strengths. To see him wasted on the left hand side is and he does not provide cover for the full back = we are open. Thus for me, I would deploy 41311 and give Tomlin licence to roam but with orders to be closer to Abraham when he is doing it! Also, Brownhill was a standout player for Barnsley and I dont think he has been given enough chances. We then have the flexibility to bring on fresh legs and attacking impetus with Reid, O'dowda and Engvall. Subs - O'Donnell, Moore, Reid, O'dowda, Smith, Engvall Lucic Matthews Flint Magnusson Goldbourne Pack Paterson Brownhill Freeman Tomlin Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 6 hours ago, sglosbcfc said: You've talked about packing the midfield but only Marlon is an out and out midfielder. Bobby Reid is an attacking midfielder but you have not included Brownhill, O'Neil or Smith. you also said you expect another bore, surely you are not saying that Tuesday night was boring? It was like playground football. If Hogan and Tammy had their shooting boots on it could easily have been 6-6. It wasnt exciting though. A lot of chances came from errors. We have a lack of playing style at the moment and very little movement. GON is injured so i didnt include him and brownhill i dont think gets in ahead of the others and Smith has simply been sh1te! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I'll have an early punt that IF Lee Tomlin starts, and as a 10 on Saturday he will have a stormer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ---------------------------------------Lucic--------------------------------------- Matthews--------------Flint------------------Magners---------------Bryan ----------------------------------------Pack--------------------------------------- ---------------Reid------------------Tomlin---------------Freeman----------- -------------------------Tammy-----------------Wilbs--------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 FF-LUCIC matt, flint, hodor, Golborne Pack Reid PateRson Tomlin freeman Tammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Never seen so many alternative sides & formations put forward by fans for 'next game' Says a lot really about how few set things are in place atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Can't believe how many are keeping the same 2 centre backs playing together. The last few games they have looked so nervous it is untrue. Time to get Moore in alongside Flint and move Magnusson to left back (where he plays for Iceland). Bryan on current form and Golbourne are not the answer for me at left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Lukic Matthews, Flint, Magnusson, Bryan Freeman, Pack, Reid, Engvall Tomlin Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 18 hours ago, reddoh said: this is the side for me but I think we can sneak a couple of more players in but I do like the idea of two keepers not sure if its been tried before. We tried two keepers Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: We tried two keepers Tuesday but not at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Finally the penny has dropped. I'm on candid camera! How else could it be that the top scorer of the opponents are 4 times free on goal because of City errors? I don't know what to say anymore. If someone got loads and loads and loads of money and don't know how to waste it they know where to turn. How to burn money is the business idea of Bristol City Football Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfish Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I’d like to see this slump hit head on with energy, pace, and attacking threat: Lucic Matthews Flint Magners Goldbourne Reid GON Engval Tomlin O’dowda Tammy We have seen that Engval and O’dowda have pace, so get them to run at the defensive line and shake them up, crossing, chasing lost balls, high pressing, and giving Tomlin and Reid more options than the man-marked Tammy, thus giving Tammy space too. Plus Engval I think is right footed (?) and O’dowda is left footed, so low drilled crosses into the six yard box please. Whilst I agree that our defence needs two in front to protect them, we need those two to link up to players ahead, thus why Reid there will help pass it forward, plus he can press and run himself ragged in the midfield to help us win back the ball – subbed by Brownhill to do the same if he tires too much. The more static GON, or pack if he is injured, can complement this by shielding our two centre backs. I would pick Bryan for his attacking threat, but he needs a bit of time on the sidelines; he sounded close to tears in the interview played on radio Bristol before the game. Bench- fit keeper, moore (if we want 352), brownhill (for reid), bryan (for goldbourne), pack (for Gon), freeman (o’dowda or engval.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlborough Red Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Old School. A chance of scoring in the first half with this attacking line. Worth a try IMHO with both winger's staying wide and getting early crosses into the box. GK -Lukic Right Back-Matthews Left Back Goldbourne Right Half----Pack (O Neil if fit) Centre Half Flint Left Half... Magnusson Right Wing Patterson Inside Right Reid Centre Forward Abraham Inside left Tomlin Left Wing Freeman Subs Envail , Wilbraham, Bryan , O'Dowda , Brownhill, Fit Keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Can't believe how many are keeping the same 2 centre backs playing together. The last few games they have looked so nervous it is untrue. Time to get Moore in alongside Flint and move Magnusson to left back (where he plays for Iceland). Bryan on current form and Golbourne are not the answer for me at left back. Do you not think this is because of FF behind them? Ths is why O'Donnell was a breath or fresh air when he came in dominating the box, rather than catching a nose bleed after the 6 yard line. We were pretty much undone first half Tuesday just by mistakes around the backline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 51 minutes ago, Marlborough Red said: Old School. A chance of scoring in the first half with this attacking line. Worth a try IMHO with both winger's staying wide and getting early crosses into the box. GK -Lukic Right Back-Matthews Left Back Goldbourne Right Half----Pack (O Neil if fit) Centre Half Flint Left Half... Magnusson Right Wing Patterson Inside Right Reid Centre Forward Abraham Inside left Tomlin Left Wing Freeman Subs Envail , Wilbraham, Bryan , O'Dowda , Brownhill, Fit Keeper Old School? Subs? Bare Eleven I'm afraid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 14 hours ago, Neo said: Lukic Moore - Flint - Magnusson Matthews - Pack - Reid - Golborne Engvall - Abraham - Tomlin I'd like to see some variation of this. Joe would be better in a sort of midfield/wing back / full back role and if Oneil was fit he'd be in my 11 instead of Reid. Maybe Brownhill for Mathews to give more of a wide MF role on the right. but I like the formation, works for Chelsea. Would give scope for LT to drop off with two runners ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 26 minutes ago, nickolas said: Do you not think this is because of FF behind them? Ths is why O'Donnell was a breath or fresh air when he came in dominating the box, rather than catching a nose bleed after the 6 yard line. We were pretty much undone first half Tuesday just by mistakes around the backline. Yes i remember now how O'Donnell and Flint were always on the same wavelength!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 12 hours ago, RedM said: Tuesday, heard it in the car going to the match. Said it was a hamstring tear. After the match they (caller/presenter) were saying it was a grade 1 tear, but couldn't remember if that was the most severe or least, graded one to four/five I think they said. Then I read somewhere yesterday it was 'only' a grade one, the least severe, might only be out for days Three weeks was quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 A few variations on a theme is what I can see from this. We need at least 1 strong(ish) holding midfielder & most prefer Pack to Smith. We need Tomlin to have a free role in attacking midfield. We need 2 upfront so someone can take the strain off of Tammy. Ideally someone quick. So it's either 3-4-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 (a midfield diamond). The problem is yet another change of formation & probably personnel, although less changes with diamond. And having to play players who are not on form as the best fits for the formation. Assuming Frankie is fit he plays. If not, I would go with O'Donnell. Lucic looked like an accident waiting to happen on Tuesday. Fielding Moore - Flint -Magnusson Brownhill - Pack - Reid - Bryan Tomlin Abraham - Engvall OR Fielding Matthews - Flint - Magnusson - Goulbourne Pack Freeman - Bryan Tomlin Abraham - Engvall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 12 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: A few variations on a theme is what I can see from this. We need at least 1 strong(ish) holding midfielder & most prefer Pack to Smith. We need Tomlin to have a free role in attacking midfield. We need 2 upfront so someone can take the strain off of Tammy. Ideally someone quick. So it's either 3-4-1-2 or 4-1-2-1-2 (a midfield diamond). The problem is yet another change of formation & probably personnel, although less changes with diamond. And having to play players who are not on form as the best fits for the formation. Assuming Frankie is fit he plays. If not, I would go with O'Donnell. Lucic looked like an accident waiting to happen on Tuesday. Fielding Moore - Flint -Magnusson Brownhill - Pack - Reid - Bryan Tomlin Abraham - Engvall OR Fielding Matthews - Flint - Magnusson - Goulbourne Pack Freeman - Bryan Tomlin Abraham - Engvall The rules of my OP was that you're in charge....so which team is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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