Sniper Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 if we're still a Championship side next season (we bloody better be ) do we have any hope of keeping the boy wonder for another stint? We love him. he loves us, no brainer? If Chelsea don't see him in their plans for first team football, then surely another loan maybe on the cards, we have looked after him well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sniper said: if we're still a Championship side next season (we bloody better be ) do we have any hope of keeping the boy wonder for another stint? We love him. he loves us, no brainer? If Chelsea don't see him in their plans for first team football, then surely another loan maybe on the cards, we have looked after him well! Can't see it. Would love to think we could, but I can see him ending up at Newcastle on loan, or somewhere like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarumred Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, glynriley said: Can't see it. Would love to think we could, but I can see him ending up at Newcastle on loan, or somewhere like that. Agreed. Think he will definitely play in the premier league next season as part of his delevopement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BCFC_LIAM Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think we should spend kodj money on him, better player, younger (if chelsea accept obviously) and if we are best bid of he will come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would say there is zero chance of him being here next season. If Chelsea had a recall option he wouldn't be here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Given the goals this season, I would imagine they would want a substantial "rent" fee for him next season. Maybe £5m plus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'd like to think that with the amount of playing time he's had so far, add to that the goals he's scored, if he was going to go on loan then we would be at the front of the queue. Unless of course Chelsea want to loan him out to a Premiership team to see how he does at that level. With Conte being in two minds about letting him come on loan in the first place, he may decide to keep him as a sub next season. Saying that though, with Chelsea playing as well as they have so far this season, it's not as if they've missed him is it? Roll back the clock a year, and I think Chelsea would be trying to get him back early..... In an ideal world, Tammy gets told he's not likely to feature in Chelseas first team squad next season, says he wants to go, we buy him for £15m, and give Chelsea first refusal on any future transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 TBH I can see him hanging around their first team next year. He's had a loan and they may want to keep him around a bit and push their current forwards. Batshuayi hasn't set the world alight. Of course this depends on their summer business but Conte seemed to rate him so we will see but I could see Solanke off and Tammy taking the third spot at minimum(depends on who's better between Tammy and Traore then and Traore has been played on the wing a lot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sadly zero chance with us playing in the championship. Chelsea will either do the dirty on him and get rid for big bucks after stringing him along. or he will end up at prem club on loan. fair play to him. Seems like a nice kid and I hope he can hit the heights we all believe he can. gonna have to spend big in the summer to replace him. Just hope we have a decent finish to the season so we can attract decent talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, BCFC_LIAM said: I think we should spend kodj money on him, better player, younger (if chelsea accept obviously) and if we are best bid of he will come back tammy would cost about 60 to 70 million in today market, he is young and full of promise, chelsea don't want to sell and he is under a long contract with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I am sure I read somewhere that if we reached the Prem next season we could more or less have him for another season long loan if not he would be loaned out to a Prem team. It may well of been on 20p I heard it on the Monday night show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would say currently 20mill but with a tidy prem season under his belt 30 + depending on how well he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He'll be the next Romelu Lukaku in my opinion. Can see him going on loan to someone like Southampton or Stoke and eventually signing with them full time after a year or two and then making a big success of it there like Lukaku has at Everton. Many of Chelsea's youngsters don't really make the grade at the top level after leaving them, but there are always a few that shine and I think he'll be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JHAGa Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Londoner said: 60 70 million dear god get in the real world man. i am, sunderland want 15 million for 34 year old Jermain Defoe Scott Hogan who is 24 is valued at 15 million, Lookman went to everton for 7.5 million raising to 11 million from league 1, Why would chelsea sell one of englands brightest striking talents (Who's players are always over priced) on the cheap, FFS Andy Carroll went for 50 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Would imagine he'll either be loaned to an unfancied premier side, or to a European team 'to continue his footballing education' - the latter option will then see him drop off the football radar for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He's not ready for the Prem in my opinion and has things to work on to improve. Chelsea won't play him so can't see why they wouldn't see us as the best option to continue his development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, INCRED said: He's not ready for the Prem in my opinion and has things to work on to improve. Chelsea won't play him so can't see why they wouldn't see us as the best option to continue his development never were deli ali or harry kane when they broke into spur's first team, they both improved by playing every week with better players, that will be tammy's next step, he's a natural goal scorer put him in any team and he will score, those types of players are priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Londoner said: Your making a significant mistake, granted a mistake many people make especially those who dont undsrstand the business side of football like yourself....there is limited correlation between tammy and defoe, simply because we all know noone would offer that kind of money for him.....this means your theory is solely based on guesswork with no basis whatsoever.....a complete nonsense. and you are continuing to be a complete ****, Chelsea won't sell him unless stupid amount of money is offered thats why I said you'd have to offer 60 to 70 million to sign him, you know a stupid amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Monkeh said: and you are continuing to be a complete ****, Chelsea won't sell him unless stupid amount of money is offered thats why I said you'd have to offer 60 to 70 million to sign him, you know a stupid amount Don't take the bait man, the guy is obviously a troll. Oh and he has no clue about football either let alone the business side of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'd be amazed if he wasn't out on loan in the prem next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoPal Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sadly, as much I love to see him stay, it would benefit both Tammy's development and Chelsea FC if he were playing for low placed Premier team and helping to taking points off of their rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Londoner said: But stupid money wont be offered, so its completely irrelevant. Why you decide to promote 60-70 million is beyond me. it's not irrelevant as some on said we should spend the kodja money on him, and I said you'd need to spend 60 -70 million for chelsea to sell him, giving reasonable reasons why in todays over-hyped and over inflated market due to the prem money currently in the game , but you head is ether up your own arse or you are a complete troll to have a reasonable debate about it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Surprised by the zero chance claims. 1. His profile has heightened here 2. He is happy here 3. Third transfer window so we should be on all out top 6 assault which he will relish leading and it may appeal to Chelsea also Why are we not an equally attractive prospect as any Prem team liable to be in a relegation battle as Chelsea are not letting an asset go to any team liable to push the top 10 places. Obvs he can't play against Chelsea but he can still affect their league position. I would say if we improve with new signings in Jan and then we are adventurous in the summer I can definitely see a repeat of Tammy going on their pre-season tour but winding up here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, INCRED said: He's not ready for the Prem in my opinion and has things to work on to improve. Chelsea won't play him so can't see why they wouldn't see us as the best option to continue his development Your the first to not think him premier league ready-so maybe I'm not losing the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Neo said: Surprised by the zero chance claims. 1. His profile has heightened here 2. He is happy here 3. Third transfer window so we should be on all out top 6 assault which he will relish leading and it may appeal to Chelsea also Why are we not an equally attractive prospect as any Prem team liable to be in a relegation battle as Chelsea are not letting an asset go to any team liable to push the top 10 places. Obvs he can't play against Chelsea but he can still affect their league position. I would say if we improve with new signings in Jan and then we are adventurous in the summer I can definitely see a repeat of Tammy going on their pre-season tour but winding up here ! playing in a better league, with and against better players will improve him, thats his next step after us, if we were going to go up or compete for the title next season then we may have a better chance (still be a small one) but I don't think ether will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS10 RED Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Unfortunately i don't think he will be back here on loan. Most probably be a championship side who's just got promoted to the prem. If he does come back to the championship then i fear it would be a bigger championship club than ourselves. ie. a relegated prem side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not good enough for Prem currently. Will be in the future. Would expect he could go to a Prem club who gets relegated this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Sniper said: if we're still a Championship side next season (we bloody better be ) do we have any hope of keeping the boy wonder for another stint? We love him. he loves us, no brainer? If Chelsea don't see him in their plans for first team football, then surely another loan maybe on the cards, we have looked after him well! There will be many other teams looking to sign him. Can see him with one of the lower end PL teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, BCFC_LIAM said: I think we should spend kodj money on him, better player, younger (if chelsea accept obviously) and if we are best bid of he will come back Disagree. At the moment Kodjia is the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Either Conte will keep him around next season or someone will take the gamble on him being able to step up to the prem and loan him. No chance he'll be back here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Am I the only one who got excited and thought the thread title meant we have agreed to have him next season! And no not a chance and if we got to the prem still would go to at least a mid table prem team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would love to have him here next season but he is too good for where we are. He may be loaned out to a lower Prem side, or Conte may use him from the bench or in cups next season depending he is still the manager after last nights defeat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Am I the only one who isn't taking it for granted that we will still be a Championship side next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Doubt it very much i'm afraid, only chance we get him if we get errrrr......promoted! Funny that people think he isn't ready for the Prem the guy is one of the biggest threats for teams in the Championship! People said that Deli Alli wasn't ready for the Prem and look how he's doing! Would love to be proved wrong but if he keeps progressing and getting stronger then he has a massive footballing future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Why is everyone so worried? We have Wes Burns returning next season to partner Engvall. They will be unstoppable ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not a cat's chance. Unless by some miracle we get promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: i am, sunderland want 15 million for 34 year old Jermain Defoe Scott Hogan who is 24 is valued at 15 million, Lookman went to everton for 7.5 million raising to 11 million from league 1, Why would chelsea sell one of englands brightest striking talents (Who's players are always over priced) on the cheap, FFS Andy Carroll went for 50 million I think that is the one that is the benchmark, same age, scored a lot less goals at a lower level too. It should give everyone an idea of what Tammy will be valued at in todays market. I wonder if his moving on will move Tammy's brother up the pecking order at Charlton? It will be interesting to see if he is anywhere near as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Even if we were offered him on a permanent deal, we wouldn't be able to sign him.... Not if we are spending a 15 figure sum on former FGR striker Matt Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: tammy would cost about 60 to 70 million in today market, he is young and full of promise, chelsea don't want to sell and he is under a long contract with them 60/70 million? Behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: and you are continuing to be a complete ****, Chelsea won't sell him unless stupid amount of money is offered thats why I said you'd have to offer 60 to 70 million to sign him, you know a stupid amount 50 pence now that would be a stupid amount!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizzlelou Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Steve Watts said: He'll be the next Romelu Lukaku in my opinion. Can see him going on loan to someone like Southampton or Stoke and eventually signing with them full time after a year or two and then making a big success of it there like Lukaku has at Everton. Many of Chelsea's youngsters don't really make the grade at the top level after leaving them, but there are always a few that shine and I think he'll be one of them. He's made for Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Londoner said: Your making a significant mistake, granted a mistake many people make especially those who dont undsrstand the business side of football like yourself....there is limited correlation between tammy and defoe, simply because we all know noone would offer that kind of money for him.....this means your theory is solely based on guesswork with no basis whatsoever.....a complete nonsense. Why do you always have to shoehorn in how much someone "doesn't understand the game". It's utterly pathetic. I'd rather know nothing about the game but understand how to interact with people respectfully. Clearly you don't have a clue about the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He would score loads in league one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Londoner said: I have previously scouted for city of london schools with links at chelsea, west ham and charlton. I have a better understanding than most. You come across of more a boy scout than a football scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, RedDave said: Not good enough for Prem currently. Will be in the future. Would expect he could go to a Prem club who gets relegated this season Don't think I agree with this Dave. He's on course for 30-odd goals in an average side. That could potentially translate to maybe 10-12 goals in the PL with the prospect of further improvement in subsequent seasons. That would surely be of interest to a PL club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: tammy would cost about 60 to 70 million in today market, he is young and full of promise, chelsea don't want to sell and he is under a long contract with them Probably "worth" about the same as Lookman at c£10-12m. Doesn't mean Chelski would sell him for that of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I certainly think he has Pl potential and I think he is great. No way is he worth £60-70m at the moment though. Caulker is a cautionary tale- I remember people on here touting him as next England captain after his great displays for us but he is in Championship with QPR. Tammy could be worth that in a few years maybe but he would have to prove a lot, a hell of a lot to approach that sort of fee. £60-70m would buy you a marquee player, from here and abroad, he's nowhere near that level yet- a brilliant 5 months but that's all it is so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not a hope. Just enjoy him for the next 5 months. Amazing signing, really amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyboy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Sniper said: if we're still a Championship side next season (we bloody better be ) do we have any hope of keeping the boy wonder for another stint? We love him. he loves us, no brainer? If Chelsea don't see him in their plans for first team football, then surely another loan maybe on the cards, we have looked after him well! He will be a premier league player without any question next season. Enjoy him for this season only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Portland Bill said: Am I the only one who isn't taking it for granted that we will still be a Championship side next season! Finally someone like myself, who still thinks we can make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 With the likelihood Chelsea will be in the Champions League next season Tammy will return to his club and be a squad player. Benchwarmer in the league with the odd appearance and used in the both domestic cup competitions. We couldn't afford his wages and any transfer fee would be extortionate.... @Monkeh I agree the fee would be high and understand your thoughts around pricing him although I think he's valued £20M ish (as mad as that sounds) But that's the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OK. One word... or figure. If Tammy was sold at the end of the season due to not being able to make it into their squad what would your guess be.... I'll start.... £25m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, Judda said: OK. One word... or figure. If Tammy was sold at the end of the season due to not being able to make it into their squad what would your guess be.... I'll start.... £25m With premiership game time and half a dozen goals he may achieve such a sale price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Londoner said: Your making a significant mistake, granted a mistake many people make especially those who dont undsrstand the business side of football like yourself....there is limited correlation between tammy and defoe, simply because we all know noone would offer that kind of money for him.....this means your theory is solely based on guesswork with no basis whatsoever.....a complete nonsense. Did you go to University to get a degree in being an arrogant, supercilious cock or are you completely self-taught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Londoner said: I have previously scouted for city of london schools with links at chelsea, west ham and charlton. I have a better understanding than most. You come across as someone who simply hasn't a clue so I'd disagree with the highlighted part and if the first part is true... er, well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, downendcity said: Did you go to University to get a degree in being an arrogant, supercilious cock or are you completely self-taught? Just put the condescending idiot on ignore. That's what I've done. If his football knowledge was as large as his ego, his posts would probably be worth reading. As it is, I would rather listen to my elderly parents have sex than read another of his posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, downendcity said: Did you go to University to get a degree in being an arrogant, supercilious cock or are you completely self-taught? Don't get him started on education! You must have missed previous threads where he declared himself superior because he's an academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Don't get him started on education! You must have missed previous threads where he declared himself superior because he's an academic. An arrogant cock, is still an arrogant cock no matter how many GCEs he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Monkeh said: never were deli ali or harry kane when they broke into spur's first team, they both improved by playing every week with better players, that will be tammy's next step, he's a natural goal scorer put him in any team and he will score, those types of players are priceless 3 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: I'd be amazed if he wasn't out on loan in the prem next season. An interesting article on Prem managers' views on loans - click on the second hyperlink, not the ghost goal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Forget about next season. Watching Tammy's goals, the first against Reading being typical. I would think that Tammys eyes have lit up at the prospect of Djuric lining up beside him. Watched his interview and he says TEAM PLAYER. so great as Wilbs has been this guy looks capable of causing mayhem in the box but also an eye for the pass. Anybody excited at the thought of these two starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, RED4LIFE said: Just put the condescending idiot on ignore. That's what I've done. If his football knowledge was as large as his ego, his posts would probably be worth reading. As it is, I would rather listen to my elderly parents have sex than read another of his posts. I wish your folks would get an ignore button. Twice last night and then again this morning. #NormanStanleyFletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattjtsmith Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 If anyone was wondering how much Tammy / Youth is worth.... Lookman just signed for Everton for £11m after scoring seven goals in League One. Madness. So on that Tammy must be worth £30m+?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He won't be back here; but no doubts Chelsea or Arsenal or United have seen how well we treat upcoming talent - so hopefully we would be at the front of the queue for the Tammy MK2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 He will be at Bournemouth next season as part of their 3 transfer window master plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Lets be honest guys. Imagine if we had a highly rated youngster and we sent him out on loan to say Walsall. Then imagine they were in an absolute mess: losing game after game plumetting down the table towards relegation, playing a formation that left him isolated upfront and probably seing his confidence spiralling downwards. Would you think that would be good for his development? Would you want him to go back for another year? If I were Chelsea, I wouldnt even think about sending him back and quite frankly Id probably give us a wide berth for future loans in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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