Andy082005 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Having travelled up to Forest today , I can't believe what I witnessed. That was he worst Forest side I've ever seen....and we couldn't even muster an opportunity. I said 12 months ago he wasnt the man for the job. I was shot down by so many but I've been provedoing right. The players arnt playing for him and he is utterly clueless . One of the worst football manangers we have ever had. 25 years a season ticket. I wont be bothering again until thisn imbecile is sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, shelts said: Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . He's certainly up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 It's your opinion but why the crass use of imbecile? Why does it have to get personal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Don't voice your opinion in this way. Prepare for the super heroes to post 'bye then' in hilarious fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: He's certainly up there. Yes. Top five . SOD . Macca . Benny. Pullis . LJ. You can arrange them in any order!! Pretty sure lots will disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, shelts said: Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . 1 Shot on target against a shambolic a Forest team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: It's your opinion but why the crass use of imbecile? Why does it have to get personal? Your right. It's an insult to imbeciles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: 1 Shot on target against a shambolic a Forest team? He wasn't even playing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Having travelled up to Forest today , I can't believe what I witnessed. That was he worst Forest side I've ever seen....and we couldn't even muster an opportunity. I said 12 months ago he wasnt the man for the job. I was shot down by so many but I've been provedoing right. The players arnt playing for him and he is utterly clueless . One of the worst football manangers we have ever had. 25 years a season ticket. I wont be bothering again until thisn imbecile is sacked Certainly is a new low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Having travelled up to Forest today , I can't believe what I witnessed. That was he worst Forest side I've ever seen....and we couldn't even muster an opportunity. I said 12 months ago he wasnt the man for the job. I was shot down by so many but I've been provedoing right. The players arnt playing for him and he is utterly clueless . One of the worst football manangers we have ever had. 25 years a season ticket. I wont be bothering again until thisn imbecile is sacked Great support there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Flint says No said: Great support there I think that's the point. He doesn't want to show his support for a manager that needs to go, despite doing so up until now. Can't be criticised too harshly for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, shelts said: Yes. Top five . SOD . Macca . Benny. Pullis . LJ. You can arrange them in any order!! Pretty sure lots will disagree That's pretty bad, although I don't see how you can leave out Tinnion, Osman and permanent Millen. Not going to play his game anymore - it's far too depressing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Great support there Winner winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Calculus said: That's pretty bad, although I don't see how you can leave out Tinnion, Osman and permanent Millen. Not going to play his game anymore - it's far too depressing... Steve Coppell has to be the worst 2 league games in charge and expensive transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: It's your opinion but why the crass use of imbecile? Why does it have to get personal? Probably because the guy has come to the end of his tether. LJ should of gone weeks ago and people are just getting frustrated now. Hence the insults. I dont feel for him too much. He will get a big pay off. Its not like anyone has chinned him or anything. Sticks and stones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: I think that's the point. He doesn't want to show his support for a manager that needs to go, despite doing so up until now. Can't be criticised too harshly for that. Well he's not a very good supporter of the team then you go to support the team not the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Calculus said: That's pretty bad, although I don't see how you can leave out Tinnion, Osman and permanent Millen. Not going to play his game anymore - it's far too depressing... I didn't include Osman as he kept us up on a diet of bad football and he ditched my Jackie!! Forgot Tinns and Millen!!! Does that make LJ in bottom half of ten worst!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: It's your opinion but why the crass use of imbecile? Why does it have to get personal? It doesn't unless you are unable to think of a reasoned/reasonable point of view. Bear in mind that many of the same posters were resorting to deeply personal insults about Cotterill- having won us the double the season before- the first real success in 40 years so we should not be that surprised when all LJ has done is save us from relegation only to lead us back into a marginally better position. Lee Johnson is not an imbecile or a dwarf or inept or a **** ( a current favourite ) he's a Manager that's lost his way whilst trying but failing to do his best. 11 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Your right. It's an insult to imbeciles Awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, shelts said: Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . Oh LJ has some competition in the past few seasons for our worst manager but 11 losses in 12 & 8 in a row in the league, even beats the 6 months we went without a win under SOD. But the difference is the amount that LJ has been allowed to spend, whereas SOD was still on meagre rations and having to abide by the 5 pillars. God knows we have had some bad managers. Please SL could you actually appoint someone who knows what they are doing. As for LJ, I would suggest going down a peg or two, and hope you might get an assistant post somewhere. Because frankly you are so out of your depth at this level it's just embarrassing for all concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 LJ will certainly be remembered. Backed by cash . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 42 minutes ago, Poshtottie said: Such a disappointment for us all I just wish I had faith he could turn things around however I just don't believe this to be true, time will tell Hopefully his time is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 42 minutes ago, shelts said: Yes. Top five . SOD . Macca . Benny. Pullis . LJ. You can arrange them in any order!! Pretty sure lots will disagree Bit harsh on Benny - he was brought in as a coach (as Ward asked for assistance before doing a runner) - and was never supposed to be manager. Just a victim of the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Andy082005 said: Having travelled up to Forest today , I can't believe what I witnessed. That was he worst Forest side I've ever seen....and we couldn't even muster an opportunity. I said 12 months ago he wasnt the man for the job. I was shot down by so many but I've been provedoing right. The players arnt playing for him and he is utterly clueless . One of the worst football manangers we have ever had. 25 years a season ticket. I wont be bothering again until thisn imbecile is sacked It was woeful.... long ball rubbish... totally clueless.... Johnson out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 58 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Having travelled up to Forest today , I can't believe what I witnessed. That was he worst Forest side I've ever seen....and we couldn't even muster an opportunity. I said 12 months ago he wasnt the man for the job. I was shot down by so many but I've been provedoing right. The players arnt playing for him and he is utterly clueless . One of the worst football manangers we have ever had. 25 years a season ticket. I wont be bothering again until thisn imbecile is sacked Not shot down by me Andy, I was of the same opinion he should of never got the job , ******* joke of an appointment from day one and I and many others who know football are with you. Its just a shame that the happy clappers and modern experts are now slowly realising the inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, WestonRobin said: Bit harsh on Benny - he was brought in as a coach (as Ward asked for assistance before doing a runner) - and was never supposed to be manager. Just a victim of the circumstances. Entertaining tenure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Well he's not a very good supporter of the team then you go to support the team not the manager. Nope you support the Club, not the players, the manager, or the board. This is BCFC since 1894, players, managers and owners come and go. WE are the only constant. The sooner people realise that The Club is more important than the 11 blokes running around a field until they get a better offer the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 How about the players remember that they are paid by the club and not by the manager/head coach. Will they suddenly remember how to play again like they did 12 months ago if Lee goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Did you really need your own thread? Just saying there is many threads you could have put this in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Well he's not a very good supporter of the team then you go to support the team not the manager. How old are you mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Midred said: How about the players remember that they are paid by the club and not by the manager/head coach. Will they suddenly remember how to play again like they did 12 months ago if Lee goes? With a different manager giving less confusing instructions, picking a settled team and formation, and not trying to be clever clever by over complicating the game to the extent where it becomes almost unplayable for the players, I've little doubt we'd look twice the team overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, bs3 said: Not shot down by me Andy, I was of the same opinion he should of never got the job , ******* joke of an appointment from day one and I and many others who know football are with you. Its just a shame that the happy clappers and modern experts are now slowly realising the inevitable. Funny how some take such delight in saying "I told you so" and revel in the opportunity to show much cleverer they apparently are than the rest of us. You'd get on well with Londoner. Whilst Johnson's appointment was very few people's first choice, I'd say the most intelligent response by people who "know football" was to give him in a chance, in the knowledge that no one can ever know with any certainty how a managerial appointment will turn out in advance - rather than dismiss it as a "joke of an appointment from day one". You would presumably have come to the same conclusion about Eddie Howe when he was first appointed as a rookie manager at Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Funny how some take such delight in saying "I told you so" and revel in the opportunity to show much cleverer they apparently are than the rest of us. You'd get on well with Londoner. Whilst Johnson's appointment was very few people's first choice, I'd say the most intelligent response by people who "know football" was to give him in a chance, in the knowledge that no one can ever know with any certainty how a managerial appointment will turn out in advance - rather than dismiss it as a "joke of an appointment from day one". You would presumably have come to the same conclusion about Eddie Howe when he was first appointed as a rookie manager at Bournemouth. You're right, we weren't in a position to be choosy last year, and it seemed an appropriate appointment at the time. There were pros and cons to his appointment. Ultimately is hasn't worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banglo2011 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 The way it's going i wouldn't be surprised if LJ was sacked and Holden was put in temporary charge,literally anything is possible with this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, shelts said: Yes. Top five . SOD . Macca . Benny. Pullis . LJ. You can arrange them in any order!! Pretty sure lots will disagree benny was great. l J well he's got the worst record ever for consecutive defeats that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'm saddened to see people take so much pleasure in seeing the team and LJ fail in order to be 'proven right all along'. I'm genuinely sad it hasn't worked out and genuinely sad we've lost 8 in a row but obviously some aren't. I really really hope that no players or manager ever read this forum for the absolute 'I told you so', 'I know better' hindsight warriors who revel in rubbing it in people's faces who are doing their level best for the club. If that's the case. We are Bristol City. We shall forever underachieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Funny how some take such delight in saying "I told you so" and revel in the opportunity to show much cleverer they apparently are than the rest of us. You'd get on well with Londoner. Whilst Johnson's appointment was very few people's first choice, I'd say the most intelligent response by people who "know football" was to give him in a chance, in the knowledge that no one can ever know with any certainty how a managerial appointment will turn out in advance - rather than dismiss it as a "joke of an appointment from day one". You would presumably have come to the same conclusion about Eddie Howe when he was first appointed as a rookie manager at Bournemouth. I don't think many are doing that, but alot of us did say pre-appointment that it was completely unfathomable and could see almost no chance of it succeeding. Having said that we also said we would get behind LJ once appointed, and, speaking for myself, have stuck to that until relatively recently. Forum kudos for being 'proved right' really isn't important; the fact the club seemed intent, by LJ's extraordinary appointment, on almost inevitably putting us fans through yet another miserable period of poor results, depressing the fanbase yet again, and taking all enjoyment out of watching City was uppermost in my thoughts when I made my negative pre appointment comments. No one can take any pleasure in being 'proved right' when it comes to forecasting managerial failure dictating the near certainty of a period of genuine gloom for City and all us supporters, but really such an outcome from LJ's appointment was utterly predictable. That gloom can only be lifted now by putting right the wrong of LJ's disastrous appointment, and the sooner the better. No one needs to be crowing about how clever they were it if it happens, but it MUST happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 For me the worst manager ever (at least in my lifetime) will always be Jimmy Lumsden. Turned a promotion team into a relegation team in half a season and sold Bob Taylor. LJ's not far behind and gaining ground but surely hasn't got much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 56 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Funny how some take such delight in saying "I told you so" and revel in the opportunity to show much cleverer they apparently are than the rest of us. You'd get on well with Londoner. Whilst Johnson's appointment was very few people's first choice, I'd say the most intelligent response by people who "know football" was to give him in a chance, in the knowledge that no one can ever know with any certainty how a managerial appointment will turn out in advance - rather than dismiss it as a "joke of an appointment from day one". You would presumably have come to the same conclusion about Eddie Howe when he was first appointed as a rookie manager at Bournemouth. Theres a difference between LJ and EH's appointments. EH was at Bournemouth when he was first appointed their manager. LJ was in another job and was headhunted. Bournemouth were skint and struggling when EH was appointed, whereas we were a recently promoted Championship side that were one or two players short of being a decent side. Plus, we have an owner who ( if he really wanted to ) could afford to 'try' and bring in nearly any other football league manager who was employed at the time. The reality is, no other Championship club would have taken LJ as their manager, it was all because he had played for us and the owner likes him as a person. When SC was sacked I don't think anyone on this forum actually thought for one moment that LJ would be our next manager, every out of work manager's name was mentioned, but no one thought we would go for a mid table league one manager who was employed at the time. LJ had only left us as a player about 3-4 years before, it was bloody obvious that in those 3-4 years he hadn't magically gone from a decent ( but limited) midfielder in the football league, to this super duper modern coach that we were being told he had suddenly become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, KingLear said: I'm saddened to see people take so much pleasure in seeing the team and LJ fail in order to be 'proven right all along'. I'm genuinely sad it hasn't worked out and genuinely sad we've lost 8 in a row but obviously some aren't. I really really hope that no players or manager ever read this forum for the absolute 'I told you so', 'I know better' hindsight warriors who revel in rubbing it in people's faces who are doing their level best for the club. If that's the case. We are Bristol City. We shall forever underachieve. There are a few who are taking pleasure in LJ's failure. I'm not one of them, even though I feel he now has to go. Lets be realistic though, LJ as a player split the fan base down the middle 50/50. Some blamed him for everything,some fully supported him. So it was bloody obvious he would always be on shaky ground when he became our manager, we all knew ( yes everyone of us ) that his first bad run of results would open up the divide once again. Unfortunatly this bad run is worse than anyone could have imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, Portland Bill said: There are a few who are taking pleasure in LJ's failure. I'm not one of them, even though I feel he now has to go. Lets be realistic though, LJ as a player split the fan base down the middle 50/50. Some blamed him for everything,some fully supported him. So it was bloody obvious he would always be on shaky ground when he became our manager, we all knew ( yes everyone of us ) that his first bad run of results would open up the divide once again. Absolutely right and it's a shame that those who disliked him as a player would never have given him a fair crack as manager. If he gets the chop then none of us can argue, the worst run of form in our history. Massive shame as it all looked so good earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, shelts said: Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . Well no other has managed 8 straight league defeats, so he has to be up there for that fact alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Flint says No said: Great support there Nee Nerr, Nee Nerr,Nee Nerr... superfan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: Theres a difference between LJ and EH's appointments. EH was at Bournemouth when he was first appointed their manager. LJ was in another job and was headhunted. Bournemouth were skint and struggling when EH was appointed, whereas we were a recently promoted Championship side that were one or two players short of being a decent side. Plus, we have an owner who ( if he really wanted to ) could afford to 'try' and bring in nearly any other football league manager who was employed at the time. The reality is, no other Championship club would have taken LJ as their manager, it was all because he had played for us and the owner likes him as a person. When SC was sacked I don't think anyone on this forum actually thought for one moment that LJ would be our next manager, every out of work manager's name was mentioned, but no one thought we would go for a mid table league one manager who was employed at the time. LJ had only left us as a player about 3-4 years before, it was bloody obvious that in those 3-4 years he hadn't magically gone from a decent ( but limited) midfielder in the football league, to this super duper modern coach that we were being told he had suddenly become. Eddie Howe is in a different class to our incumbent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I don't think many are doing that, but alot of us did say pre-appointment that it was completely unfathomable and could see almost no chance of it succeeding. Having said that we also said we would get behind LJ once appointed, and, speaking for myself, have stuck to that until relatively recently. Forum kudos for being 'proved right' really isn't important; the fact the club seemed intent, by LJ's extraordinary appointment, on almost inevitably putting us fans through yet another miserable period of poor results, depressing the fanbase yet again, and taking all enjoyment out of watching City was uppermost in my thoughts when I made my negative pre appointment comments. No one can take any pleasure in being 'proved right' when it comes to forecasting managerial failure dictating the near certainty of a period of genuine gloom for City and all us supporters, but really such an outcome from LJ's appointment was utterly predictable. That gloom can only be lifted now by putting right the wrong of LJ's disastrous appointment, and the sooner the better. No one needs to be crowing about how clever they were it if it happens, but it MUST happen. Fine margins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: Funny how some take such delight in saying "I told you so" and revel in the opportunity to show much cleverer they apparently are than the rest of us. You'd get on well with Londoner. Whilst Johnson's appointment was very few people's first choice, I'd say the most intelligent response by people who "know football" was to give him in a chance, in the knowledge that no one can ever know with any certainty how a managerial appointment will turn out in advance - rather than dismiss it as a "joke of an appointment from day one". You would presumably have come to the same conclusion about Eddie Howe when he was first appointed as a rookie manager at Bournemouth. Not at all his view has at least been consistent. 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: You're right, we weren't in a position to be choosy last year, and it seemed an appropriate appointment at the time. There were pros and cons to his appointment. Ultimately is hasn't worked out. Well that wasn't the message from saint Mark Ashton before and after the appointment, but hey perhaps he was bullshitting of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, KingLear said: I'm saddened to see people take so much pleasure in seeing the team and LJ fail in order to be 'proven right all along'. I'm genuinely sad it hasn't worked out and genuinely sad we've lost 8 in a row but obviously some aren't. I really really hope that no players or manager ever read this forum for the absolute 'I told you so', 'I know better' hindsight warriors who revel in rubbing it in people's faces who are doing their level best for the club. If that's the case. We are Bristol City. We shall forever underachieve. Strange post, the first and last sentences are at complete odds with each other, especially given the hailing of the new professional revolution supposedly under way at BCFC and the amount of money invested in players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, KingLear said: I'm saddened to see people take so much pleasure in seeing the team and LJ fail in order to be 'proven right all along'. I'm genuinely sad it hasn't worked out and genuinely sad we've lost 8 in a row but obviously some aren't. I really really hope that no players or manager ever read this forum for the absolute 'I told you so', 'I know better' hindsight warriors who revel in rubbing it in people's faces who are doing their level best for the club. If that's the case. We are Bristol City. We shall forever underachieve. I don't take pleasure! If I wanted to take take pleasure, then I'd support some other side. I think 99.5% of our fanbase take no pleasure in the utter fuckwittery that is normal for Bristol City FC. I want a relatively successful side to follow (God knows I've seen some shit times), the odd cup run, and maybe holding our own in the Championship/ lower Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, Esmond Million's Bung said: Strange post, the first and last sentences are at complete odds with each other, especially given the hailing of the new professional revolution supposedly under way at BCFC and the amount of money invested in players. How are they at odds with eachother? People want to be proven that they were right even if that means we lose on the pitch - therefore we shall never move forward as a club. Think they match up pretty well to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, KingLear said: How are they at odds with eachother? People want to be proven that they were right even if that means we lose on the pitch - therefore we shall never move forward as a club. Think they match up pretty well to be honest. The person who started this thread traveled all the way to Nottingham, do you actually believe he made that journey in the hope that they would lose?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, shelts said: Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . Oh well maybe we should wait until he officially is!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: The person who started this thread traveled all the way to Nottingham, do you actually believe he made that journey in the hope that they would lose?. I don't believe that anyone who calls themselves a fan would ever want us to lose, at least I hope not! But you must have seen the thread entitled 'I hope we lose tonight' that went up during the week? It's indivduals like that who I'm talking about and yes I'm aware that it wasn't the OP who started that thread. I didn't want to start yet another thread on the matter, think there's enough of those to go around as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Bristol City Managers (plenty to choose from) The Good, The Bad & The Fugly who wins/loses?.... YOU DECIDE ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bristol_City_F.C._managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, KingLear said: I don't believe that anyone who calls themselves a fan would ever want us to lose, at least I hope not! But you must have seen the thread entitled 'I hope we lose tonight' that went up during the week? It's indivduals like that who I'm talking about and yes I'm aware that it wasn't the OP who started that thread. I didn't want to start yet another thread on the matter, think there's enough of those to go around as it is. Ah OK fair enough you appended your answer to the wrong post, so you must understand mine and others confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Flint says No said: Great support there I've been there through thick and thin mate. This is to muchave. Something has to change Anyone who feels otherwise are morons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Portland Bill said: There are a few who are taking pleasure in LJ's failure. I'm not one of them, even though I feel he now has to go. Lets be realistic though, LJ as a player split the fan base down the middle 50/50. Some blamed him for everything,some fully supported him. So it was bloody obvious he would always be on shaky ground when he became our manager, we all knew ( yes everyone of us ) that his first bad run of results would open up the divide once again. Unfortunatly this bad run is worse than anyone could have imagined. No one takes "pleasure" What aneeds idiotic comment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Midred said: How about the players remember that they are paid by the club and not by the manager/head coach. Will they suddenly remember how to play again like they did 12 months ago if Lee goes? The answer is yes. Until they decide they want rid of the next one. If you're looking for signs of personal responsibility and ethical behaviour don't start with footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 6 hours ago, shelts said: Definitely not the worst we've ever had. Still it's your opinion and your welcome to it . Please who was worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 5 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: Funny how some take such delight in saying "I told you so" and revel in the opportunity to show much cleverer they apparently are than the rest of us. You'd get on well with Londoner. Whilst Johnson's appointment was very few people's first choice, I'd say the most intelligent response by people who "know football" was to give him in a chance, in the knowledge that no one can ever know with any certainty how a managerial appointment will turn out in advance - rather than dismiss it as a "joke of an appointment from day one". You would presumably have come to the same conclusion about Eddie Howe when he was first appointed as a rookie manager at Bournemouth. I'm not sure what you are saying. This may be because of a drink on a Saturday night. Please advise. Londoner bless him is really not that bright! We are garbage. We can not buy a win despite SLs billions! Am I missing something? Eddie Howe manages Bournemouth. And LJ has had his chance. Are you the chap I met with his Mrs in the restaurant at Brentford last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Portland Bill said: Theres a difference between LJ and EH's appointments. EH was at Bournemouth when he was first appointed their manager. LJ was in another job and was headhunted. Bournemouth were skint and struggling when EH was appointed, whereas we were a recently promoted Championship side that were one or two players short of being a decent side. Plus, we have an owner who ( if he really wanted to ) could afford to 'try' and bring in nearly any other football league manager who was employed at the time. The reality is, no other Championship club would have taken LJ as their manager, it was all because he had played for us and the owner likes him as a person. When SC was sacked I don't think anyone on this forum actually thought for one moment that LJ would be our next manager, every out of work manager's name was mentioned, but no one thought we would go for a mid table league one manager who was employed at the time. LJ had only left us as a player about 3-4 years before, it was bloody obvious that in those 3-4 years he hadn't magically gone from a decent ( but limited) midfielder in the football league, to this super duper modern coach that we were being told he had suddenly become. I agree with much of what you say here but the background behind Howe's appointment - while true - is slightly besides the point I was making. The point is, who would have predicted Howe would succeed, regardless of how he came to get the job? Just look at this forum's track record with managerial appointments. There was broad support for the arrival of McInnes and SOD. They came here with prior success and relatively good reputations. Both proved to be disasters. In contrast hardly anyone wanted Cotterill, who arrived with a poor reputation, but he did fantastically well. No doubt if Cotterill had failed as many thought he would, there would have been people on here claiming that they "know football" and that it was a "joke of an appointment". No appointment is guaranteed to fail any more than one is guaranteed to succeed. There is always an element of unknown - and prior reputation or record is not a reliable indicator of how well a manager will do at his next club. Claiming to know anything for certain in advance suggests an over-inflated ego and fails to recognise that uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Flint says No said: Well he's not a very good supporter of the team then you go to support the team not the manager. We're you there yesterday? In all I spent £80 of my hard earned money which, if I'm totally honest, I couldn't afford to do. But I did. I now have to work extra hours next week to replace the money I spent. So **** you and your "not very good supporter" comment That performance was pathetic. I won't be wasting any more money on them until that manager is sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Well no other has managed 8 straight league defeats, so he has to be up there for that fact alone. Exactly! He's broken the club record and that has to make him the worst.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Flint says No said: Great support there Here is the thing. Football costs a lot of money and is supposed to be entertainment. We are City fans so we aren't in it for the glory, but when you stop enjoying it or it becomes frustrating then why shouldn't someone stop going. Blindly "supporting" and paying money to watch something you cannot control could be seen as folly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 hours ago, RumRed said: Nope you support the Club, not the players, the manager, or the board. This is BCFC since 1894, players, managers and owners come and go. WE are the only constant. The sooner people realise that The Club is more important than the 11 blokes running around a field until they get a better offer the better. So it must be us who are the real problem then for the constant lack of success!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 hours ago, KingLear said: How are they at odds with eachother? People want to be proven that they were right even if that means we lose on the pitch - therefore we shall never move forward as a club. Think they match up pretty well to be honest. Don't talk bo**ocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Here is the thing. Football costs a lot of money and is supposed to be entertainment. We are City fans so we aren't in it for the glory, but when you stop enjoying it or it becomes frustrating then why shouldn't someone stop going. Blindly "supporting" and paying money to watch something you cannot control could be seen as folly Precisely this! Couldn't agree more. Let's face it, the ground will be half empty if Lansdown is relying on people who will turn up regardless of what's on offer. I did that back in the 80's when I was young, had no responsibilities for anyone else and football was cheap...none of those things are true today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 58 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Don't talk bo**ocks Nice reasoned and well thought out reply. I concede defeat and bow to your superior knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 10 hours ago, shelts said: I didn't include Osman as he kept us up on a diet of bad football and he ditched my Jackie!! Forgot Tinns and Millen!!! Does that make LJ in bottom half of ten worst!! And don't forget Bobby Houghton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: And don't forget Bobby Houghton! Don't hear his name too often on OTIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, KingLear said: Nice reasoned and well thought out reply. I concede defeat and bow to your superior knowledge. I dont believe there is one City fan which wants thisn club to fail long term just so we can get rid of a a manager . Ridiculous statement We all want this club to succeed and progress. Sadly there are many like me who knew from day one his appointment was a joke, and nothing more then a job for 'Steves mate' I would love to have been proved wrong and become the new Robbored on here where everyone mocks me. If that was happening it would mean this club would be succeeding So yeah....your taking bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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