boss hogg Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. ok lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 If the fans vocally turn against Lee in numbers after we lose the Wednesday game I can't see they will be able to back him any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, tinman85 said: Now we know who LJ is on this forum! 5 minutes ago, boss hogg said: ok lee. We might be near the basement of the table, but at least I can still rely on the ever increasing class and wit of OTIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. Is that a joke????? Did you see our squad prior to jan!!! Incredible!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 18 hours ago, BS3_RED said: Do you know what really worries more than our position in the table and losing 8 straight.......the fact that you are probably right and take out SL's money, his time in charge of this club has been on the whole a failure and it will probably get no better in the next few years due to the constant changing of strategy. Nearly £100m wasted ( not including the stadium money) over several years on what? Fortunately, he has at least written it off himself by gaining shares in the club ( not great if you were a shareholder though as your shares and been seriously devalued over the process). This puts it across perfectly. Take away SL's money and what's left? Have we really grown the supporter base? Have we developed a sustainable business model so we don't need to rely on charity? Have we developed a strategy which differentiates us from other clubs with financial and geographical advantage over us? I don't think we've done any of these things so in many ways we have gone backwards. We will, in perpetuity, be a club reliant on a rich benefactor. And I worry that won't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. We will have a very expensive L1 side, come August, if we don't turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: We will have a very expensive L1 side, come August, if we don't turn things around. Have to sell a lot off first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Rednwhiterob said: This puts it across perfectly. Take away SL's money and what's left? Have we really grown the supporter base? Have we developed a sustainable business model so we don't need to rely on charity? Have we developed a strategy which differentiates us from other clubs with financial and geographical advantage over us? I don't think we've done any of these things so in many ways we have gone backwards. We will, in perpetuity, be a club reliant on a rich benefactor. And I worry that won't end well. If a resignation was announced today, would you prefer it to be SL or LJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Londoner said: Is that a joke????? Did you see our squad prior to jan!!! Incredible!!! I'm not sure it's going to be any better post Jan. Just potentially a load of new imports tied into longer term contract for a new manager to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Sir Colby-Tit said: If a resignation was announced today, would you prefer it to be SL or LJ? You know the answer. That's the tricky bit. I genuinely thank our lucky stars for SL, but I want to see the club progress and develop so that, maybe, he can stop digging into his pockets quite so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: Have to sell a lot off first Not an easy task for a new manager. That's what often leads to consecutive relegation; having to manage a clear out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Just now, Rednwhiterob said: Not an easy task for a new manager. That's what often leads to consecutive relegation; having to manage a clear out. I know this is what concerns me! Wasn't long ago Mcinnis was ridding the side of coppells rubbish and then remember SOD having to cut out the rubbish even more leaving us bottom of LG1! Trykng to be positive but we are only a few steps from being there again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: You know the answer. That's the tricky bit. I genuinely thank our lucky stars for SL, but I want to see the club progress and develop so that, maybe, he can stop digging into his pockets quite so much! To be fair to SL, I'm sure he does as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: This puts it across perfectly. Take away SL's money and what's left? Have we really grown the supporter base? Have we developed a sustainable business model so we don't need to rely on charity? Have we developed a strategy which differentiates us from other clubs with financial and geographical advantage over us? I don't think we've done any of these things so in many ways we have gone backwards. We will, in perpetuity, be a club reliant on a rich benefactor. And I worry that won't end well. Let's not let our current form cloud our thoughts yea? We now have a stadium that wouldn't be out of place in the premiership. We are getting around 20k each home game. Before SL took over I remember us once getting 6k for a home league game against Colchester on a Tuesday night I think? I would argue that we are now seeing my families at Ashton Gate and as our corporate facilities have improved we are now also attracting fans with a bit of money. No football club is ever going to be self sustainable. I don't know about all the financial workings of Bristol Sport but Ashton Gate is now a venue that hosts events throughout the week and now on a matchday fans are now spending a considerable amount more at the stadium. It's clear to see we have developed a strategy. Buy players with potential and improve them and sell them on. This is basically year one of that strategy, it's very unlikely we will see instant results in a long term project. Just because we havnt seen instant results in year one doesn't mean we won't see results moving forward. Off the pitch we are light years away from where we were only a short few years ago. To overlook that based on our current form is damn right ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 40 minutes ago, JammyOne said: up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. In July last year, LJ told the Post: "It was no secret that we were a couple of windows behind, and I think we've just about caught up now." Lee also said, "the club has done well to acquire the services of some really good players." So your view, above, and LJ's are some way apart. And we have had four more players in in this window since then, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Let's not let our current form cloud our thoughts yea? We now have a stadium that wouldn't be out of place in the premiership. We are getting around 20k each home game. Before SL took over I remember us once getting 6k for a home league game against Colchester on a Tuesday night I think? I would argue that we are now seeing my families at Ashton Gate and as our corporate facilities have improved we are now also attracting fans with a bit of money. No football club is ever going to be self sustainable. I don't know about all the financial workings of Bristol Sport but Ashton Gate is now a venue that hosts events throughout the week and now on a matchday fans are now spending a considerable amount more at the stadium. It's clear to see we have developed a strategy. Buy players with potential and improve them and sell them on. This is basically year one of that strategy, it's very unlikely we will see instant results in a long term project. Just because we havnt seen instant results in year one doesn't mean we won't see results moving forward. Off the pitch we are light years away from where we were only a short few years ago. To overlook that based on our current form is damn right ridiculous. Hope you're proven right UTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. Fair point Sir Only another 17 or 18 new signings to go then ....... Patience everybody , patience , the project is in progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 45 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. He said it would take two transfer windows which he's had and guess what, we're now going backwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: Hope you're proven right UTC. So do I, however it's very doubtful! 8 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Let's not let our current form cloud our thoughts yea? We now have a stadium that wouldn't be out of place in the premiership. We are getting around 20k each home game. Before SL took over I remember us once getting 6k for a home league game against Colchester on a Tuesday night I think? I would argue that we are now seeing my families at Ashton Gate and as our corporate facilities have improved we are now also attracting fans with a bit of money. No football club is ever going to be self sustainable. I don't know about all the financial workings of Bristol Sport but Ashton Gate is now a venue that hosts events throughout the week and now on a matchday fans are now spending a considerable amount more at the stadium. It's clear to see we have developed a strategy. Buy players with potential and improve them and sell them on. This is basically year one of that strategy, it's very unlikely we will see instant results in a long term project. Just because we havnt seen instant results in year one doesn't mean we won't see results moving forward. Off the pitch we are light years away from where we were only a short few years ago. To overlook that based on our current form is damn right ridiculous. We will be lucky to get 6k with the dross we are playing. Long ball rubbish will not get us out of league one, let alone keep us in the championship, I can't for the life of me remember such shite being served up under a City manager over the 35 years I've been watching City, this is worse than Pulis!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. That team smashed League One. Gross failure by SC, LJ and the board since then leads to our current position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: We will have a very expensive L1 side, come August, if we don't turn things around. We won't Mike, because most of the decent players will be gone and LJ or a new manager will have to start all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, JammyOne said: I don't want him to be sacked and I don't think he'll be sacked. He's only half way in to the process of building a Championship team, up until this transfer window we had pretty much a league 1 side. I say keep the faith. Extremely difficult to build a Championship team when in the Championship. It will be even more difficult to do that when in League 1! There will be triggers in most of the squads contracts so they will be able to leave if we go down. That isn't back to square one, that is worse than square one. The squad yesterday looks to me like a decent Championship outfit. It is not working so there has to be a reason? Or is that too simplistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Imagine if we lost to Sheff Wed then Rotherham and the board then sacked LJ. The new manager would come in to face four away games in a row. Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Aston Villa, Good luck !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Real Red said: Imagine if we lost to Sheff Wed then Rotherham and the board then sacked LJ. The new manager would come in to face four away games in a row. Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Aston Villa, Good luck !!! But who knows what might happen with someone else in? Might change our fortunes and get the players working harder for their spot in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Real Red said: Imagine if we lost to Sheff Wed then Rotherham and the board then sacked LJ. The new manager would come in to face four away games in a row. Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Aston Villa, Good luck !!! Well at worst we could lose, that's something that's 100% nailed on at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Real Red said: Imagine if we lost to Sheff Wed then Rotherham and the board then sacked LJ. The new manager would come in to face four away games in a row. Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Aston Villa, Good luck !!! Rotherham has to be the game where he will go if we don't win. Its a home game which I just can't see the majority in attendance will be able to swallow another defeat to another poor team. I will be there but am already dreading it but I will be supporting the team no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, supercidered said: Rotherham has to be the game where he will go if we don't win. Its a home game which I just can't see the majority in attendance will be able to swallow another defeat to another poor team. I will be there but am already dreading it but I will be supporting the team no matter what. No he has to go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Londoner said: No he has to go now But he isn't going anywhere...... yet! 12 minutes ago, supercidered said: Rotherham has to be the game where he will go if we don't win. Its a home game which I just can't see the majority in attendance will be able to swallow another defeat to another poor team. I will be there but am already dreading it but I will be supporting the team no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Londoner said: No he has to go now He should walk. We will beat Rotherham, that result will just prolong the misery as we will get battered by every other team we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Can we afford to let him go. Not sure how ffp works but if as some are saying we are still paying 2 managers at moment can we afford to a 3rd. Then a 4th when new one comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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