harvey54 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Villa. All away. Am I the only person who can't see where the next point is coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjam!n Ultra Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 August against Bury or some shit I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 If we get one point from those games I will be pleasantly surprised. We will start next month in the bottom 3 and if Johnson is still here he will take us down I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Villa. All away. Am I the only person who can't see where the next point is coming from? It looks very tough . But you've got to play them sometime. And surely our abysmal away record can't continue. Can't it . Would be ecstatic to get 4 points from that . You never know. Raise their game . Less pressure away from home . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Point at derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Neo said: Point at derby just did, hope I got the direction right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 point from those games minimum for us to not be in the bottom 3 come the end of that run.....really cant see us getting 4 points though, i fear once we are in the bottom 3 we won't get out. Having looked at our remaining fixtures this morning i really do think we are ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Football is a funny old game, folks.. Ever tried winning any money getting results right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, reddoh said: just did, hope I got the direction right. Better man than me - I would not even know where North is but I do know I wouldn't want to live there !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Villa. All away. Am I the only person who can't see where the next point is coming from? Hopefully. I think we'll pick up more against those teams than Rotherham, Wigan and Burton will. 4 points for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said: 4 point from those games minimum for us to not be in the bottom 3 come the end of that run.....really cant see us getting 4 points though, i fear once we are in the bottom 3 we won't get out. Having looked at our remaining fixtures this morning i really do think we are ******. Have you looked at the remaining fixtures for Wigan, Burton and Rotherham? Are they significantly easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Villa. All away. Am I the only person who can't see where the next point is coming from? Better hope they squeeze the Fulham game in on 22nd Wed (rumoured). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Better hope they squeeze the Fulham game in on 22nd Wed (rumoured). Not sure that makes the run much better, really not confident of points from anyone, specially after yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: Have you looked at the remaining fixtures for Wigan, Burton and Rotherham? Are they significantly easier? Im more concerned with our own results tbh mate and i cant see many points until the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, Mr Hankey said: Im more concerned with our own results tbh mate and i cant see many points until the end of the season But you base your claim of our almost certain relegation on our remaining fixtures. On this basis you have to consider the fixtures of the teams already below us or it's nothing more than negative rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Derby have lost 3 in 5, Aston Villa if you take away the name and the history are only 14th in the league. Blackburn and Wolves beat Newcastle at home. Sorry, don't have any positives for the Leeds game, we never win there and they have a fantastic team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 It looks pretty hopeless I must admit. Derby and Leeds are nightmare hunting grounds for us.. Newcastle away is the toughest game of the season on paper and Villa are unbeaten at home. I guess the law of averages says we'll pick up a point somewhere but I cant see it being much more than that. March however, looks much more pivotal with Burton and Wigan to play then Blackburn, Brentford, Wolves and QPR in April. Good results in those and we'll be fine and the league table shows that none of those teams are significantly better or worse than us - Wigan can't score for love nor money, Burton have the resources and setup of a league 2 club, and Blackburn are being run into the ground by a chicken farmer. We only need to better the results of two of these and we'll be OK. Please don't give up hope guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 It doesn't look hopeless, we've just picked up 4 points and have significantly improved our squad. Relax, we will not be in a relegation scrap. Feeling very confident that we will be at least 8 points clear of the bottom 3 come the end of the season. Forget the shocking run, consign it to history, those never-ending defeats are done and dusted. Have we all forgot the golden rule of the Championship??? Any team can beat any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Think it is worth noting the next four for out nearest competitors too, because as recent weeks have shown; it is becoming as much about the form of those around us as our own. Burton (21st, 30 games played, 31 points) Brighton (A), Norwich (H), Derby (A), Blackburn (H) Blackburn (22nd, 29 played, 28 points) Rotherham (A), Sheff Weds (A), Burton (A), Derby (H) - They also have a home game to Man U in the FA Cup in the middle of that run. Wigan (23rd, 28 played, 25 points) Norwich (H), Fulham (A), Wolves (A), Preston (H) - worth noting that Wigan play six league games before the end of Feb, while everyone else in the bottom six has only four; Wigan also play QPR away and Forest at home before March, which will be key games for them. Also worth noting QPR's fixtures, as they are only three points ahead of us having played a game more and have a worse goal difference... QPR (19th, 30 played, 34 points) Huddersfield (H), Birmingham (A), Wigan (H), Preston (A) I'm not sure if we have a better or worse run than others; the lack of home matches will make things tough, but perhaps time away from the Gate may even give the team the time to build unity away from the pressure cooker environment that they'd be playing under at home. Also; I don't think I'm alone in thinking we'll need to improve performances massively to win any of these away games, so the lack of expectations might allow us to play with a weight off our shoulders - I'm perhaps clutching at straws, but I've been a City fan long enough to see us do similar I the past; winning away to the near unbearable Southampton, and taking six points from Boro last season are indicators of that. If we can get three points from those four games, we should still be in touch, but suggest we'd need 4-5 to hold our position. All told; I expect us to be at least level on points with the relegation zone if not in it before our next home game, making the run in March of Burton then Norwich at home, then Wigan away will be absolulty crucial for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Derby, Leeds, Newcastle and Villa. All away. Am I the only person who can't see where the next point is coming from? Not easy no , but 6 points, to us , against Derby and Villa COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Of course we can gain points. Individually our players, even the less talented, are good enough. The challenge lies with the coaches to get the simple things right, e.g. Set pieces. The challenge lies with the coaches to inject confidence and team spirit. The challenge lies with the coaches to decide finally our preferred 11 and preferred tactics and playing style. Having finished the last paragraph I seem to have argued, however, against my first sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 minute ago, kiwicolin said: Not easy no , but 6 points, to us , against Derby and Villa COYR Frankly, I'd be genuinly pleased with four, regardless how they come. Staying in touch before our run of three out of four at home in March is key. Is looking like a season where we'll need more than the average of 45 points to stay up (probably 48), so need about a point a game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: But you base your claim of our almost certain relegation on our remaining fixtures. On this basis you have to consider the fixtures of the teams already below us or it's nothing more than negative rhetoric. 3 teams go down mate, i can see us being one of them under your messiah, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, samo II said: Think it is worth noting the next four for out nearest competitors too, because as recent weeks have shown; it is becoming as much about the form of those around us as our own. Burton (21st, 30 games played, 31 points) Brighton (A), Norwich (H), Derby (A), Blackburn (H) Blackburn (22nd, 29 played, 28 points) Rotherham (A), Sheff Weds (A), Burton (A), Derby (H) - They also have a home game to Man U in the FA Cup in the middle of that run. Wigan (23rd, 28 played, 25 points) Norwich (H), Fulham (A), Wolves (A), Preston (H) - worth noting that Wigan play six league games before the end of Feb, while everyone else in the bottom six has only four; Wigan also play QPR away and Forest at home before March, which will be key games for them. Also worth noting QPR's fixtures, as they are only three points ahead of us having played a game more and have a worse goal difference... QPR (19th, 30 played, 34 points) Huddersfield (H), Birmingham (A), Wigan (H), Preston (A) I'm not sure if we have a better or worse run than others; the lack of home matches will make things tough, but perhaps time away from the Gate may even give the team the time to build unity away from the pressure cooker environment that they'd be playing under at home. Also; I don't think I'm alone in thinking we'll need to improve performances massively to win any of these away games, so the lack of expectations might allow us to play with a weight off our shoulders - I'm perhaps clutching at straws, but I've been a City fan long enough to see us do similar I the past; winning away to the near unbearable Southampton, and taking six points from Boro last season are indicators of that. If we can get three points from those four games, we should still be in touch, but suggest we'd need 4-5 to hold our position. All told; I expect us to be at least level on points with the relegation zone if not in it before our next home game, making the run in March of Burton then Norwich at home, then Wigan away will be absolulty crucial for us. Thanks for that Samo was wondering who our relegation rivals had . Doesn't look to easy for them . If we can miraculously get 4 or 5 points it should just about keep our heads above water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I base this on no fact or analysis whatsoever but I think being away from the Gate for a few weeks may take some pressure off the manager and players and I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up 4 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I thought this Division was gonna be better quality that it has shown to be. Newcastle and Brighton are good but can have off days. Huddersfield have improved massively and are probably the best team in the division now......can see them overtaking one of the two leaders. Of the others up there, I recon they are all pretty average and we are quite capable of at least a draw with them.....if we play the right team in the right shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Top Robin said: I thought this Division was gonna be better quality that it has shown to be. Newcastle and Brighton are good but can have off days. Huddersfield have improved massively and are probably the best team in the division now......can see them overtaking one of the two leaders. Of the others up there, I recon they are all pretty average and we are quite capable of at least a draw with them.....if we play the right team in the right shape. I think the quality is in the ability to make it difficult for your opponent. A lot of sides are much of a muchness defence and midfield. The better sides invariably gave that bit extra in attacking positions. There are a lot of very good players in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said: 3 teams go down mate, i can see us being one of them under your messiah, deal with it. That's not a counter argument to the point @Rednwhiterob was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: That's not a counter argument to the point @Rednwhiterob was making. Too tired to argue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereks no1 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Villa have hit a sticky patch but on paper look brilliant. A midfield of Hourihane and Lansbury with Kodjia and Hogan up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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