Mr Popodopolous Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 May seem a random topic, may even should have a poll but always interesting discussion to have. Should Football Stewards be fans of the club, or say Rovers fans or indeed no connection at all? Should it matter even? I only say this because I don't think a good job of stewarding at football can really be done unless the individual has an understanding of football fans, crowds etc- but who really knows eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 10, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Interesting point I would say they would need to understand the "mind" of a football fan as to react to certain scenarios Those I encounter have been around the ground for many years and would say they know when to stamp down on someone or when just to stand back On the basis we got rid of safe and sound mid season and replaced them, I guess there is a degree of inexperience But then equally what do we expect a steward to be there for? Some seem no more than just directing people to seats whereas others take a more hands on approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generation1 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 in the dim distant past we had a squad of 12 called the specials as did the gas .at home games ours did stewarding in the east end with the gas doing the away fans while the reverse happened at eastville. so you were always looked after by stewards with a connection with the club at home and no connection if an away fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Don't think it matters, stewards don't have much power, any problems and the old bill sweep in to the rescue, i see them as mainly there to try and prevent possible flash points and to ask people to sit down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Don't think it matters, stewards don't have much power, any problems and the old bill sweep in to the rescue, i see them as mainly there to try and prevent possible flash points and to ask people to sit down The main thing I seem to see them doing these days is arguing with idiots who seem to think it's unfair they can't take their pint with them to their seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Common sence is the most important thing. We took some photographs of Shrewsburys new ground before them playing Bury quite a few seasons back now and got a lesson about image rights belonging to the club and photographing was not allowed etc. Absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 10, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said: Common sence is the most important thing. We took some photographs of Shrewsburys new ground before them playing Bury quite a few seasons back now and got a lesson in image rights belonging to the club etc. Absurd. Can remember a friend of mine being thrown out before a game at Bradford for the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I genuinely find there is pretty good stewarding at Ashton gate these days. You only have to talk to them to realise they are city fans. I know one travels up from Devon every home game and I have seen quite a few at away games as fans not stewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 47 minutes ago, phantom said: Interesting point I would say they would need to understand the "mind" of a football fan as to react to certain scenarios Those I encounter have been around the ground for many years and would say they know when to stamp down on someone or when just to stand back On the basis we got rid of safe and sound mid season and replaced them, I guess there is a degree of inexperience But then equally what do we expect a steward to be there for? Some seem no more than just directing people to seats whereas others take a more hands on approach I think the stewards have an important role to play only a couple of weeks ago they checked if I could undo a zip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, phantom said: Can remember a friend of mine being thrown out before a game at Bradford for the same thing At QPR the question was if the camera was to good to just take pics as a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 It's like anyone. They should simply do their job as it is described. Does not matter who they support, just as long as it is not the SAG's, Swansea or Baaardiff. tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 In general we don't have a problem with anyone in England. Plus 99 per cent are good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, bristolcitysweden said: At QPR the question was if the camera was to good to just take pics as a fan Top post from Sweden there. When he is sober his posts are perfectly reasonable. What is everyone complaining about?? tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Common sence is the most important thing. We took some photographs of Shrewsburys new ground before them playing Bury quite a few seasons back now and got a lesson about image rights belonging to the club and photographing was not allowed etc. Absurd. Technically the stewards are correct on this Tommy, but 99% of clubs overlook it and rightly so, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Being a steward is a bit like being a PCSO ... Powerless. Not a job I would like to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Surely Stewards are there to do the following:- Direct fans to their seats or a particular refreshment or the loos or whatever. To instruct fans to sit down whilst watching the games. To insist fans do not bring drink into the seating areas. To sort out the few idiots who cause trouble. To stop fans getting onto the pitch to remonstrate with Lee Johnson. Perhaps let fans do that. Stewards contribution during the games is vital and should be acknowledged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Back in the day, clubs didn't have Stewards just a few policemen in the ground. Clubs then realised by having their own Stewards, they didn't need the Police which the clubs had to pay for. The Police retaliated by insisting 1; they decided how many police were needed in the ground, 2; they decided the cost of each officer and 3; if the club objected to points 1 and/or 2, they withdrew the safety certificate so the game could not go ahead. (A licensed protection racket)? Many police forces are now trying to get the rules changed so that clubs have to pay for police outside the ground on traffic duty etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 33 minutes ago, 22A said: Back in the day, clubs didn't have Stewards just a few policemen in the ground. Clubs then realised by having their own Stewards, they didn't need the Police which the clubs had to pay for. The Police retaliated by insisting 1; they decided how many police were needed in the ground, 2; they decided the cost of each officer and 3; if the club objected to points 1 and/or 2, they withdrew the safety certificate so the game could not go ahead. (A licensed protection racket)? Many police forces are now trying to get the rules changed so that clubs have to pay for police outside the ground on traffic duty etc. We have the same discussion. When does the clubs responsibility stop? Young Mr. Braindead kissing his mum goodnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Two hundreed years ago they would end of story had been sent to war. By, by. Today be happy football host them. Who would like a riot in a snobbish Låndån theathre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Read this the other day, seems appropriate to share it here. Hi-vis jackets and low-level bother: a steward's view of a football match https://www.theguardian.com/football/when-saturday-comes-blog/2016/dec/19/steward-football-match-view?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Spoons said: Being a steward is a bit like being a PCSO ... Powerless. Not a job I would like to do. Agreed,being paid to watch the city is even a chore at the moment for those buggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I know quite a few of the lads and they love the club more than most. Fair play to them , like officials without them we have no game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 No jobsworths allowed aka 80% of the current stewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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