reddogkev Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Absolutely not for me. 3-0 and we ****** it up, simply. There is no excusing 1 point when half way through you are 3-0 up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Probably would have been easier to lose 4-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Building confidence?! I think all confidence was lost when it went to 3-3 and they could have add a 4 on 2 attempts which went narrowly wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Can't agree with this. It's all about the context of the result, a point at 3oclock - everyone would have taken it. A point at 5oclock after being 3 nil up; feels like a defeat - and could be a huge confidence hit for Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! I'm not convinced throwing away a 3-0 lead does much for confidence. I admire your positivity, it's a refreshing antidote to many on here, but let's not pretend failing to win with a 3 goal advantage after nearly an hour is in any way satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southstandoriginal Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Surely you jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reformed_red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Well done to the business manager who, after building a portfolio worth £500million, blew it all but still ended up with £157.89 more than when he started and an impressive stockpile of stationary. Context is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Leave it out. We were 1-3 up with about half hour to go. Not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 OP apologies but I cannot agree, I admire you're outlook on the result. We were 0-3 up at HT and we end up drawing 3-3? No matter how utterly shot the confidence is, you cannot do that. Absolutely ******* criminal, we deserve to be in a relo dogfight!!! By the way, I would imagine you are in for some stick for this ill-timed topic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Used to fight in the ring. "You've taken his legs away" "He can't stand up at all" "Well done you drew!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 LJ knows we can play 442 and have the striking power to score. Now he has to find that ability to keep hold of a lead and find the weak links between midfield and defence and who is prone to switching off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, reformed_red said: Well done to the business manager who, after building a portfolio worth £500million, blew it all but still ended up with £157.89 more than when he started and an impressive stockpile of stationary. Context is everything. Difference being that the business manager could have sold his business when it was worth £500m. Not like we could cash in a 3-0 scoreline for 3 points is it. It's a poor analogy. We just got a point away at Derby. It's a good result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Red, how many times have we thrown away a decent lead this season ? I just isn't good enough and the Manager needs to man up and take the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 It's a good result, great to see the scorers score as they did granted- and we didn't lose any ground with teams beneath- again good thing. But- that was appalling 2nd half. Appalling- did we stay 4-4-2 too long? Quite possibly, terrible collapse- as it turned out Burton and Wigan lost and Blackburn could only draw with Rotherham. QPR, Forest, Brentford, Villa all lost so not a BAD day but could it have been significantly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, reddogkev said: And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! That's a pretty odd perspective! Throwing a 3 nil lead away would have me tearing my hair out, not thanking my lucky stars I'd witnessed one of the more spectacular collapses...Sheff. Weds was bad enough...this must have been torture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Difference being that the business manager could have sold his business when it was worth £500m. Not like we could cash in a 3-0 scoreline for 3 points is it. It's a poor analogy. We just got a point away at Derby. It's a good result. It's a reasonable analogy. A good business manager sells the business at the peak of its value; a good football manager closes a game down when his side is 3 goals up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Any confidence built from the Wednesday and Rotherham games and the first half today will have been absolutely shattered after that. Back to the drawing board for the players. For me, the biggest positive of today would be Wigans late defeat at Fulham after being 2-1 up, and Burtons hammering at Brighton. That wont do their belief any good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Sorry,i cant agree.After three nil up to come back with a point feels like a loss from where i'm standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Red white and red said: OP apologies but I cannot agree, I admire you're outlook on the result. We were 0-3 up at HT and we end up drawing 3-3? No matter how utterly shot the confidence is, you cannot do that. Absolutely ******* criminal, we deserve to be in a relo dogfight!!! By the way, I would imagine you are in for some stick for this ill-timed topic.... No need to apologise, and disagreement is absolutely fine! I'm not remotely fazed by a bit of stick on a forum. Honestly feel this is a good point! Call me crazy! Of course, easy to become bitter and resentful of the fact we could have won this game today, but what's the point in that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Red said: LJ knows we can play 442 and have the striking power to score. Now he has to find that ability to keep hold of a lead and find the weak links between midfield and defence and who is prone to switching off. From previous matches we all know JoshB goes wandering and found lacking after 75 mins. Why he was still on is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 One more reason for at least a little positivity- but only a bit. First League point on the road since end of October! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, reddogkev said: No need to apologise, and disagreement is absolutely fine! I'm not remotely fazed by a bit of stick on a forum. Honestly feel this is a good point! Call me crazy! Of course, easy to become bitter and resentful of the fact we could have won this game today, but what's the point in that??? Maybe a bit of anger and resentment is all I have following this shower every game! Call me cynical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: It's a reasonable analogy. A good business manager sells the business at the peak of its value; a good football manager closes a game down when his side is 3 goals up. I disagree. Regardless, it's still a decent result. Heartbreaking, but decent overall. I'm not excusing the fact that we exhibited the same frailties as against Rotherham (away), Sheff Wed (away), Cardiff, Reading etc...But the difference that this time we managed to build a big enough buffer that it wasn't a total disaster...just a partial disaster. Overall a point away at Derby is a decent result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kim_il_sung said: Any confidence built from the Wednesday and Rotherham games and the first half today will have been absolutely shattered after that. Back to the drawing board for the players. For me, the biggest positive of today would be Wigans late defeat at Fulham after being 2-1 up, and Burtons hammering at Brighton. That wont do their belief any good either. If I was the gaffer, I would be onto the players from the moment they were back in the changing room, "Don't forget the exceptional first half display, keep it at the front of your thoughts." No point dwelling on the negatives. Good point raised about the others slipping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, FramptonRed said: Sorry,i cant agree.After three nil up to come back with a point feels like a loss from where i'm standing. Good news for you is that it is not a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, FramptonRed said: Sorry,i cant agree.After three nil up to come back with a point feels like a loss from where i'm standing. Then you're standing in the wrong place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! We were 3 up, we were 3 up , we were 3 up, we were 3 up, we were 3 up , we were 3 up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Actually i'm sitting down. Normally a point against a side like Derby would have been excellent,especiallly with they're home form,but not considering we were three nil up.Can you not see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 On the other hand, to contradict what I said earlier- good point yes, first half fantastic. Teams around us losing superb, Rotherham-Blackburn drawing- nearly a perfect day. But the disappointing thing, the sad thing was as soon as that first went in...I think we all sort of knew didn't we. I had a deep sense of foreboding as soon as it went to 3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, FramptonRed said: Actually i'm sitting down. Normally a point against a side like Derby would have been excellent,especiallly with they're home form,but not considering we were three nil up.Can you not see this. I agree that it is a disappointing turn of events. However, it was surely surprising that we were 3-0 up at HT. The number of posts on here prior to kick off predicting a thrashing to 0 show that. It is therefore reasonable to take a measured view of the match as a whole, without focusing on the ebs and flows within the game and within the scoreline. On that basis, as you say, a point away against a strong and in form Derby side is actually a positive result. People in football so often say "only the result matters" well...yes they are correct...so apply that here. Only the result matters. Unbeaten in 3 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, FramptonRed said: Actually i'm sitting down. Normally a point against a side like Derby would have been excellent,especiallly with they're home form,but not considering we were three nil up.Can you not see this. I can see it, but I'm taking a lot of solace in the fact we didn't lose 4-3. If that had happened, I'd now be hunting LJ down like a dog in the street!!! And I haven't seen their penalty or read about it, so not sure if it was deserved etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 It's a point at Derby, yes it should have been 3, but surely the fact that it should have been 3 shows how well we did? I'm sorry but I'm choosing the bright side of life, actually scoring 3 at pride park will give us loads of confidence. A very good point earned indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I agree that it is a disappointing turn of events. However, it was surely surprising that we were 3-0 up at HT. The number of posts on here prior to kick off predicting a thrashing to 0 show that. It is therefore reasonable to take a measured view of the match as a whole, without focusing on the ebs and flows within the game and within the scoreline. On that basis, as you say, a point away against a strong and in form Derby side is actually a positive result. People in football so often say "only the result matters" well...yes they are correct...so apply that here. Only the result matters. Unbeaten in 3 btw. You cannot throw away a 3 nil lead at this level. It is simply unacceptable as we have done it too many times this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Probably would have been easier to lose 4-0. Don't really understand that statement. Yes we should have won having been 3-0 up but suprised we didn't lost 4-3 happy with a point at the start of the day, lucky we held on in the end but still poor.... however happier with a point than to lose 4-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The LJ supporters are pathetic, 3-0 up and he still can't win, useless! No bottle left in the team, we are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, KingLear said: It's a point at Derby, yes it should have been 3, but surely the fact that it should have been 3 shows how well we did? I'm sorry but I'm choosing the bright side of life, actually scoring 3 at pride park will give us loads of confidence. A very good point earned indeed. That's all very well and good in a you score, they score game.. NOT in a 3-0 up and coasting one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I can see it, but I'm taking a lot of solace in the fact we didn't lose 4-3. If that had happened, I'd now be hunting LJ down like a dog in the street!!! And I haven't seen their penalty or read about it, so not sure if it was deserved etc... I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one,but everyones entitled to an opinion and i respect yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: That's all very well and good in a you score, they score game.. NOT in a 3-0 up and coasting one In the grand scheme of things i.e. actually staying in this division, does it matter? Genuine question, if we had been 0-3 down at half time at gone on to snatch a point this forum would be rejoicing, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Londoner said: No its not a cracking result. We were 3-0 up. Another bs comment from you 36 minutes ago, reddogkev said: I'm not of the mind-set to fester, reflect on the negative, or fixate on the fact we drew 3-3 after leading 3-0. Instead I'm going to celebrate a well-earned point, and raise several glasses to the fact we didn't lose 4-3 (which we must've all feared). A point away to Derby is a cracking result, irrespective of the finer details. Don't forget, 3 games undefeated, building a bit of confidence now. And as for the fans there today, you lucky sods, must've been one hell of a match! If we could do something about our defending though lads - cheers! Agree with this who would've taken a point at the start of today? Exactly. The negativity in this forum is too harsh and it needs to stop. So stop moaning and being grumpy and be happy with a point when it could've easily been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, KingLear said: In the grand scheme of things i.e. actually staying in this division, does it matter? Genuine question, if we had been 0-3 down at half time at gone on to snatch a point this forum would be rejoicing, wouldn't it? uh? well of course... then it would be Derby fans saying what I am don't really see what you're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, AppyDAZE said: uh? well of course... then it would be Derby fans saying what I am don't really see what you're saying 3-0 to 3-3 is a major balls up whatever the oppo IMO I respect others have theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reformed_red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 29 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Difference being that the business manager could have sold his business when it was worth £500m. Not like we could cash in a 3-0 scoreline for 3 points is it. It's a poor analogy. We just got a point away at Derby. It's a good result. Have to disagree. Before the game, I expected us to lose. At 1-0, I would take a point. Even at 2-0. But at 3-0, with just over 30 minutes to play, I wouldn't take a point. I would wholeheartedly EXPECT us to win. It's a terrible point, given the context of the match. At 3-0 up, with 30 minutes to play, if we can't metaphorically "cash in", then I would suggest there is something very very wrong at our football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, Lucan said: What is with all the people saying how great a point is. It was 8th place Derby with 2 wins in 6, hardly Chelsea And lets not forget that they'd just come off the back of 120 minutes against a Premier League team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, reformed_red said: Well done to the business manager who, after building a portfolio worth £500million, blew it all but still ended up with £157.89 more than when he started and an impressive stockpile of stationary. Context is everything. I doubt you give a **** at this moment in time but you have a stationary car and a stationery pen Happy to help - only thing I took from school that one !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, BigTone said: You cannot throw away a 3 nil lead at this level. It is simply unacceptable as we have done it too many times this season. At any level you get the same number of points for a win, lose, or draw. So throwing away a 3-0 lead has the same level of acceptability regardless of the level. Secondly - did we "throw it away"? Honest question as I wasn't there. I've read the BBC report and checked the stats - they'd suggest a largely even game. Derby poor first half, we were poor second half. Wasted chances from both. As @KingLear says above "if we had been 0-3 down at half time at gone on to snatch a point this forum would be rejoicing, wouldn't it?" As I said above, and as many people say post-match, only the result matters in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 We were 3-0 at HT clearly the better team, coasting, playing good passing football and come 5 o'clock we haven't won. Sorry, you cannot dress that up however hard you try. Have spoken up for LJ for ages but there is something wrong big-time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: uh? well of course... then it would be Derby fans saying what I am don't really see what you're saying What I'm saying is a point is a point, regardless of whether you're 3-0 up or 0-3 down. What I'm saying is a point away at Pride Park is a cracking point, especially for a team who have very recently lost 8 on the bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: At any level you get the same number of points for a win, lose, or draw. So throwing away a 3-0 lead has the same level of acceptability regardless of the level. My point is that we have done similar on many occasions. NO it is not acceptable at this level of competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, reddogkev said: No need to apologise, and disagreement is absolutely fine! I'm not remotely fazed by a bit of stick on a forum. Honestly feel this is a good point! Call me crazy! Of course, easy to become bitter and resentful of the fact we could have won this game today, but what's the point in that??? It was a good point before the game but not with half hour to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, KingLear said: What I'm saying is a point is a point, regardless of whether you're 3-0 up or 0-3 down. What I'm saying is a point away at Pride Park is a cracking point, especially for a team who have very recently lost 8 on the bounce. I got you.. you are right about the point. There is something seriously wrong the way we fold though and I worry more about that than saying oh, we got a point happy days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 We need to get something at Leeds Tuesday for the confidence to grow. Sounds to me like the lads were excellent in the first half but ran out of steam in the second. Derby are very strong in midfield and I believe that is where we lost out . Will Hughes and Tom 'bloody' Ince are top players . Disappointed not to have won but delighted that we didn't lose . Another point to safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingLear Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: I got you.. you are right about the point. There is something seriously wrong the way we fold though and I worry more about that than saying oh, we got a point happy days Absolutely, don't get me wrong losing from 3-0 up is a collapse and serious questions need to be asked, I'm 100% with you there. I just think that the fact we were 3-0 up, away at Derby in the first place in the context of our season was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Secondly - did we "throw it away"? Honest question as I wasn't there. I've read the BBC report and checked the stats - they'd suggest a largely even game. Derby poor first half, we were poor second half. Wasted chances from both. We did. You enter that pitch for the second half and know you say to the opposition we have a 3 goal head start... do your worst. It is not simply conceding 3 goals, its conceding 3 goals from a position of such ascendency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 45 minutes ago, cynic said: I get the impression a lot on here would have preferred that. Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Another bs comment from you Agree with this who would've taken a point at the start of today? Exactly. The negativity in this forum is too harsh and it needs to stop. So stop moaning and being grumpy and be happy with a point when it could've easily been worse. Oh come on, seriously! Of course we would have all taken a point. But we were 3,THREE nil up. You aren't related to the ex Iraqi information minister are you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 43 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: Oh come on, seriously! Of course we would have all taken a point. But we were 3,THREE nil up. You aren't related to the ex Iraqi information minister are you Ik but there's no need to be so negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Ik but there's no need to be so negative And there's equally no need to be so positive. We're in a bad way and in a relegation scrap, our players showed we could compete, then either tactically or mentally we fell apart yet again. That match is almost the story of our season so far, start brilliantly and capitulate, something has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 **** my actual life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm not sure what Lee Johnson could have to to make Taylor tap in his golden chance to make it 4 -1? Should LJ have run on the pitch and knocked ut in himself? He clearly set the team up right or we wouldn't have got that lead. Our mental fragility has been an issue even since Steve Cotts time and it's tricky to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: And lets not forget that they'd just come off the back of 120 minutes against a Premier League team. How many of their side today were involved in that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: No need to apologise, and disagreement is absolutely fine! I'm not remotely fazed by a bit of stick on a forum. Honestly feel this is a good point! Call me crazy! Of course, easy to become bitter and resentful of the fact we could have won this game today, but what's the point in that??? You crazy, dude!! I thought it was both good and bad but plenty of positives to take into the Leeds game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Ik but there's no need to be so negative Why? I was positive at 3-0 up, why would I or anyone else not feel negative when their club has just thrown away a three goal lead. Should I be jumping up and down with happiness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, cheese said: How many of their side today were involved in that game? Dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, mozo said: I'm not sure what Lee Johnson could have to to make Taylor tap in his golden chance to make it 4 -1? Should LJ have run on the pitch and knocked ut in himself? He clearly set the team up right or we wouldn't have got that lead. Our mental fragility has been an issue even since Steve Cotts time and it's tricky to solve. Yes, he set the team up right imo, I've been crying out for width all season but when you are 3-0 up you can revert back to type by going narrow if need be. The facts are the LJ gets payed massive amounts of money to coach a football team, if he isn't capable of doing that for 90 minutes on a Saturday afternoon then he should be replaced. After all, the players that he has felt aren't good enough have suffered the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, mozo said: I'm not sure what Lee Johnson could have to to make Taylor tap in his golden chance to make it 4 -1? Should LJ have run on the pitch and knocked ut in himself? He clearly set the team up right or we wouldn't have got that lead. Our mental fragility has been an issue even since Steve Cotts time and it's tricky to solve. I think you make the case for the dissenters within your very first sentence. With 30m left it should not have been a case of making it 4-1, we should have been totally comfortable and confident at 3-1!!!!! secind para - it's a 90m game, with three changes allowed. NO, he didn't. If he clearly set them up right even in the second half we'd have won from 3-0 at half time. Mental fragility... NO. How many times did we come back from losing positions at the start of the season? I'll give you from the top of my head Wigan at home, Rotherham away, Villa at home. Someone I don't doubt could add one or two more. Let's not consider mental fragility a long standing issue; in August we showed guts and guile to win from adversity with annoy-known-when-beat attitude. This is not a SC hangover, not in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Dunno Which shows what a straw clutching post you wrote about the FA cup game Dohhhhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 I've read everything, and it's still a cracking point! A fair few were saying we'd lose by 3 or 4 today. We haven't, we've drawn 3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: As @KingLear says above "if we had been 0-3 down at half time at gone on to snatch a point this forum would be rejoicing, wouldn't it?" Beat me to it. If we'd had our first half performance in the second half, and the second half performance in the first, we'd still have the same 1 point. Whichever half it was (today the first half) we played some of the best football I've seen us play in meany, many months. Don't give up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: I've read everything, and it's still a cracking point! A fair few were saying we'd lose by 3 or 4 today. We haven't, we've drawn 3-3. A cracking point? Um no. Yes we have drawn 3-3, but we were 0-3 up... That is disgraceful in any league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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