wendyredredrobin Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 In the good old days, players wages were not that great, but bonuses for wins had a huge impact along with bonuses for league position, etc. These days, I hear talk of players earning £x thousand per week and wonder how much of it is basic and how much based on bonuses. It seems that players sometimes don't appear as committed nowadays. Is that because bonuses are now a smaller part of their income? Does anyone have any idea about how bonuses work in the modern game and to what degree players are incentivised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I should think they all have relegation clauses in their contracts at least I hope they do. That an professional pride should be enough to be honest, well it damn well should be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Bonus scheme is decided ahead of the season in terms of overall position, and then divvied up between the players. But that doesn't include any individual bonuses they have in their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Bonus scheme is decided ahead of the season in terms of overall position, and then divvied up between the players. But that doesn't include any individual bonuses they have in their contracts. Looks like our boys will be taking their holibobs in Weston this year then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Bonus scheme is decided ahead of the season in terms of overall position, and then divvied up between the players. But that doesn't include any individual bonuses they have in their contracts. So the likes of Adam Matthews who turned up unfit, has been a liability all season and generally messed us about would get the same as an ever present? That just seems plain unfair TBH. I'm not questioning your post BTW Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Thompson Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 As we know from previous seasons if we go down the Agents will be active finding clubs that will pay the wages players are used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, 8menhadadream said: So the likes of Adam Matthews who turned up unfit, has been a liability all season and generally messed us about would get the same as an ever present? That just seems plain unfair TBH. I'm not questioning your post BTW Dave. No, divvied up based on appearances. If there were no sub appearances (to make it easier) someone who played 23 games would get half of the apportionment of someone who played 46. i think pro-rata is the word I was looking for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I remember Brian Clough saying "pay 'em a grand a week with a £50k win bonus, then you'll see some bl**dy effort" True... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 45 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: In the good old days, players wages were not that great, but bonuses for wins had a huge impact along with bonuses for league position, etc. These days, I hear talk of players earning £x thousand per week and wonder how much of it is basic and how much based on bonuses. It seems that players sometimes don't appear as committed nowadays. Is that because bonuses are now a smaller part of their income? Does anyone have any idea about how bonuses work in the modern game and to what degree players are incentivised? The game, for better or worse , has changed. The commitment is not measured by bone crunching tackles but the level of professionalism that the players apply to their careers. Keeping fit , the right diet , avoiding nightclubs etc . is the sacrifice these pros make to stay in the game . Less visible but more exacting than coming into work after a few pints on a Friday night and hacking down the opponents forward to excite the crowd . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: hacking down the opponents forward to excite the crowd Worked for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Win bonuses (per game) are now pretty common place in individual player contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: Win bonuses (per game) are now pretty common place in individual player contracts. Perhaps our contracts are badly worded and they get bonuses for losing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, divvied up based on appearances. If there were no sub appearances (to make it easier) someone who played 23 games would get half of the apportionment of someone who played 46. i think pro-rata is the word I was looking for! Thanks for the clarification Dave, that makes perfect sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Portsmouth's epic decline and financial meltdown was born out of huge win bonuses offered to the players for FA Cup glory. I guess the moral is be careful what you wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: Portsmouth's epic decline and financial meltdown was born out of huge win bonuses offered to the players for FA Cup glory. I guess the moral is be careful what you wish for. And being stitched up by some very dodgy owners who screwed the club for every penny they could get. But at least they won the FA Cup - no one can take that away from them. And you know how big a deal it would be if we ever managed that, Europa League football and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Include a Clarks pie in the ticket price and I'll attend more often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 When Swansea made their run from Div 4 to Div 1 in 80s they had a bonus scheme that had the players paid £10 for a win , win the following week double £20 , third win in a row £40 and so on Spookily they regularly went on 5/6/7/8 game winning runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 10 hours ago, 8menhadadream said: So the likes of Adam Matthews who turned up unfit, has been a liability all season and generally messed us about would get the same as an ever present? That just seems plain unfair TBH. I'm not questioning your post BTW Dave. Still our best Right back if ever fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 3 hours ago, shelts said: Still our best Right back if ever fit Got to be one of the best left back in the changing rooms I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Greedy bastards the lot of them. Have some personal pride. You earn ten grand a week. Do some work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 8 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Greedy bastards the lot of them. Have some personal pride. You earn ten grand a week. Do some work Yes I agree with that . They are the main reason we're in the sad position we find ourselves in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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