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I don't think he's been awful. I don't think he's been anywhere near expectation. Saturday I thought may have been a turning point for him. I don't know how he did tonight but now he's 10 or so games in, I'd expect an improvement. 

Of the last few seasons, O'Donnell was the best we've had. Confidence player though and when he lost it as he did, he was quite poor. Most teams struggle to find a top keeper at this level as I think most are either starting or sitting on a bench at the level above. Look at Darrow at Newcastle. I've watched him two games in a row now and he's as dodgy as they come. Villa have loaned one in from Man U. 

Come to think of it, I can only really think of maybe 3-4 in the division that would start for any team in it. Westwood and Stockdale are two. Had Lee Camp not been injured, we may well be looking a Rotherham as one who could catch us. Not many others I can think of

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10 minutes ago, otib118 said:

After going through Giefer Lucic O'Donnell & Fielding I'd be looking more in the direction of the defence!

I raised this point a few weeks ago, but sometimes if you dare to ask questions of the only stalwart in our defence, Flint, you don't get the discussion the question merits. 

2 minutes ago, AshtonG666 said:

He was giving it the big one in this interview when he joined the club but has been poor at best

Yeah, wasn't there a remark about "destroying our mistakes"? 

Not that he has made calamitous errors a la David James but neither has he done what he was brought in to do - improve upon our existing number 1.

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12 minutes ago, OddBallJim said:

I raised this point a few weeks ago, but sometimes if you dare to ask questions of the only stalwart in our defence, Flint, you don't get the discussion the question merits. 

Yeah, wasn't there a remark about "destroying our mistakes"? 

Not that he has made calamitous errors a la David James but neither has he done what he was brought in to do - improve upon our existing number 1.

Very true! Must be only me and you that see him as back up at best!

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I don't understand what people think he's done wrong, I think he looks by far the best keeper we've had in a while. Hasn't been responsible for any of the goals conceded and his kicking against Newcastle was spot on, found Wilbs consistently. In order to keep clean sheets you have to have an organised defence it's not just down to the keeper. How many clean sheets did Heaton keep when he played for us yet he's in the England set-up now.

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4 minutes ago, aa_bcfc said:

Hasn't played for two seasons. Not difficult to see why. Another master stroke of a signing. 

Agree, in fact all of the January signings have been magnificent - fantastic work by Des, Mark and LJ.

I was getting worried when we were slipping down the table back end of last year, but the players they have brought in have made a huge difference.

Cant't wait to see what 'gems' they secure in the summer........

 

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I posted this in a fit of rage & have now got back (finally!) from villa. 

Not much has changed in my view, he just looks a week keeper, his kicking is shoddy & he made an awful mistake that nearlycost us.

Flint proper lost his rag with him, says a lot i think.

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1 minute ago, 8MenWith1Dream said:

Who is his agent, and what other players at the club does he represent?

When did Flint lose his rag with him? Giefer did nowt wrong tonight.

So he didnt pass it straight to their player? I must have been watching a different game..

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15 minutes ago, 8MenWith1Dream said:

Who is his agent, and what other players at the club does he represent?

When did Flint lose his rag with him? Giefer did nowt wrong tonight.

Flint lost his rag when he refused to play on when Kodjia was pussying around in the floor... he was fuming... haven't seen him that passionate in a while!!

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4 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

Apparently he had a good game Saturday. Can't see what he done wrong tonight. Not at fault for either goal 

What about the horrendous penalty he gave away, or the pass straight to the opposition which narrowly didn't end in a goal. He was good Saturday but every other game he's been nothing short of a disaster.

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I think keeper is one position in particular where the player ideally needs a good run of games in-front of a settled defence in one formation as a bedding in period; especially if, like Giefer, you've not been playing regularly. Logically this would be pre-season. To bring him in mid-season when there's no time for a bedding in period, as well as potential further issues coming into a new country and playing new with teammates speaking his second or third language looks like an error of judgement. 

With his pedigree i've no doubt he's a good keeper when settled and familiar. Seems a mistake to bring in a foreign keeper, who hasn't been playing that regularly, mid-season.

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9 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said:

What about the horrendous penalty he gave away, or the pass straight to the opposition which narrowly didn't end in a goal. He was good Saturday but every other game he's been nothing short of a disaster.

Horrendous penalty? Hardly much he could do he had to commit to the ball. Suspect backpass

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4 minutes ago, FlintWonderwall said:

Horrendous penalty? Hardly much he could do he had to commit to the ball. Suspect backpass

It was crap all round but no he didn't have to commit, the ball was going out for a goal kick by the time he wiped out the attacker.

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3 hours ago, Aaron-Bcfc said:

What about the horrendous penalty he gave away, or the pass straight to the opposition which narrowly didn't end in a goal. He was good Saturday but every other game he's been nothing short of a disaster.

Horrendous penalty. Ye totally his fault. If you're going to criticise him fair enough. But to blame him for the penalty is IMO is bullshit . As for being a disaster. He doesn't look out of place with the majority of the outfield players. Or the head coach or the owner this season. Because the whole ******* thing has been nothing short of a disaster 

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I refuse to believe that none of the goalkeepers we've ever been through are any good. 

I lie the blame firmly at the feet of what's in front of him and the coaching thereof. 

Remember when everyone thought Heaton was crap? 

We could have had Neuer in goal this season and we wouldn't be any better off.

Very harsh to blame a keeper for our issues at the moment. 

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18 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I refuse to believe that none of the goalkeepers we've ever been through are any good. 

I lie the blame firmly at the feet of what's in front of him and the coaching thereof. 

Remember when everyone thought Heaton was crap? 

We could have had Neuer in goal this season and we wouldn't be any better off.

Very harsh to blame a keeper for our issues at the moment. 

Heaton got voted player of the season so that's blatantly not true is it.

I remember saying when he joined Burnley that he'd play for England, and he did.

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6 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said:

Heaton got voted player of the season so that's blatantly not true is it.

I remember saying when he joined Burnley that he'd play for England, and he did.

Not saying much that season is it! Every time we conceded people were moaning at him even though he couldn't have done much about it with the ineptitude of our defence. 

Not saying Giefer is brilliant but like I said - we could have Neuer and we'd still be where we are. 

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Really don't know what he's done to deserve all this. Our best player Saturday, according to the two Sunday papers I read. And didn't do too much wrong last night, that pass aside, and that didn't cost us. 

Flint lost his rag when he didn't play the ball out quickly when a Villa player was lying injured on the ground. The ref was always going to stop play anyway so really not sure why Flint was getting so wound up.

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11 hours ago, ashton_fan said:

I don't understand what people think he's done wrong, I think he looks by far the best keeper we've had in a while. Hasn't been responsible for any of the goals conceded and his kicking against Newcastle was spot on, found Wilbs consistently. In order to keep clean sheets you have to have an organised defence it's not just down to the keeper. How many clean sheets did Heaton keep when he played for us yet he's in the England set-up now.

Difference is, you could see and tell that Heaton was class. Absolutely brilliant between the sticks. Doesn't mean he can save every single one, that's the defence and midfields fault if they're not closing down. 

However against Fulham, Wednesday etc, he's looked incredibly dodgy. Couldn't even catch a cold. 

 

For someone of his height and experience, he should be so much more commanding of his area, and be able to at least catch! 

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3 hours ago, Kingswoodactor said:

So why at Newcastle, did he catch EVERYTHING? 

This thread is a joke. Our team is full of errors, all over the park, yet we choose to make Giefer the scapegoat. 

 

Does our keeper fill you with confidence? 

If, like most of us, he doesn't, imagine what the shakey back 4 think aswell. 

 

I want him to do well, I want him to succeed and be amazing. Just can't see it happening, so regarding your 'this thread is a joke' comment, hardly, when the question has to be asked, who scouted him and brought him in if he's rubbish? 

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1 hour ago, Akira said:

Does our keeper fill you with confidence? 

If, like most of us, he doesn't, imagine what the shakey back 4 think aswell. 

 

I want him to do well, I want him to succeed and be amazing. Just can't see it happening, so regarding your 'this thread is a joke' comment, hardly, when the question has to be asked, who scouted him and brought him in if he's rubbish? 

After seeing him in the flesh at Newcastle for the first time, I thought he did pretty damn well, and commanded his box better than I've seen from any City keeper this season. 

He's got a shower of **** playing in front of him, so I'm just curious as to why he needs to have a thread dedicated to him, when our whole back 4 could have individual threads too. 

And believe me, there's plenty I'd have to say about them. 

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1 hour ago, Akira said:

Does our keeper fill you with confidence? 

If, like most of us, he doesn't, imagine what the shakey back 4 think aswell. 

 

I want him to do well, I want him to succeed and be amazing. Just can't see it happening, so regarding your 'this thread is a joke' comment, hardly, when the question has to be asked, who scouted him and brought him in if he's rubbish? 

Do you actually watch the games or just listen to the radio commentary? I actually go to the games and can't find any fault with Giefer other than he can't kick with his left foot.

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5 minutes ago, ashton_fan said:

Do you actually watch the games or just listen to the radio commentary? I actually go to the games and can't find any fault with Giefer other than he can't kick with his left foot.

I think another weakness he has is he stays close to his line or 6 yard box. A few times I've seen both centre backs calling him to come and collect the ball. His starting point giving away the pen last night was an example.

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9 minutes ago, cityshippers said:

I think another weakness he has is he stays close to his line or 6 yard box. A few times I've seen both centre backs calling him to come and collect the ball. His starting point giving away the pen last night was an example.

He can't be blamed for the pen, how could have he expected a backpass like that, Reid has to take the blame for that one.

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