Big Red Rich Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The new Bo Anderson. Utter utter garbage. Less like oliver khan more oliver cant. Anyone know german for shit keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Scheisse Torvart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I heard after full time he was distraught and tried to jump under a train at New Street, but sadly the train went under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Big Red Rich said: The new Bo Anderson. Utter utter garbage. Less like oliver khan more oliver cant. Anyone know german for shit keeper? Think it translates as Giefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereks no1 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We've needed a keeper since we stepped in the Championship and I though O'Donnell was the best of the lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Bring back Frankie, certainly no worse than this bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Apparently he had a good game Saturday. Can't see what he done wrong tonight. Not at fault for either goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBibs Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: The new Bo Anderson. Utter utter garbage. Less like oliver khan more oliver cant. Anyone know german for shit keeper? My German isn't great but I think it's 'Fabian Giefer' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 When was the last time we actually paid a decent fee for a keeper? They all seem to be the ones that other clubs don't need. Might explain the performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 But he said when he arrived that he was going to make a difference....he's done that all right and no mistake! .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: Apparently he had a good game Saturday. Can't see what he done wrong tonight. Not at fault for either goal Cant catch & cant kick. Not sure about his shot stooping as he hasnt stopped much yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 After going through Giefer Lucic O'Donnell & Fielding I'd be looking more in the direction of the defence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Who is scouting this garbage this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Thought he done alright last couple of games. Wat about the defence in front of him . I'm not saying he's world class . But hasn't done a lot wrong tonight or Saturday. Or do we need to take the limelight of Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We sold our best keeper.....along with our best striker and right back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I don't think he's been awful. I don't think he's been anywhere near expectation. Saturday I thought may have been a turning point for him. I don't know how he did tonight but now he's 10 or so games in, I'd expect an improvement. Of the last few seasons, O'Donnell was the best we've had. Confidence player though and when he lost it as he did, he was quite poor. Most teams struggle to find a top keeper at this level as I think most are either starting or sitting on a bench at the level above. Look at Darrow at Newcastle. I've watched him two games in a row now and he's as dodgy as they come. Villa have loaned one in from Man U. Come to think of it, I can only really think of maybe 3-4 in the division that would start for any team in it. Westwood and Stockdale are two. Had Lee Camp not been injured, we may well be looking a Rotherham as one who could catch us. Not many others I can think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonG666 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 He was giving it the big one in this interview when he joined the club but has been poor at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 He's the most least dominant 6'5 goalkeeper I've ever seen! Dont get me started about his kicking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, otib118 said: After going through Giefer Lucic O'Donnell & Fielding I'd be looking more in the direction of the defence! I raised this point a few weeks ago, but sometimes if you dare to ask questions of the only stalwart in our defence, Flint, you don't get the discussion the question merits. 2 minutes ago, AshtonG666 said: He was giving it the big one in this interview when he joined the club but has been poor at best Yeah, wasn't there a remark about "destroying our mistakes"? Not that he has made calamitous errors a la David James but neither has he done what he was brought in to do - improve upon our existing number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 David De Gea would look a bit shit with our defence in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Not convinced but had no chance for either goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 No better than what we had along with the rest of our January signings Hegeler, Wright , Geifer , durijic, Taylor all had little to no effect certainly not what you would hope or expect the only positive one has been cotterill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We need a Gerken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Quite agree that has has offered no improvement on previous keepers this season. No reason for him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Thank god he wasn't signed on a two and a half year deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee dog Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Like Frankie, but best keeper we have had this season, although appear suspect at times, although apparently has been out for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, ontariored said: We need a Gerken Don't, you'll give Fordy a headache. But I think he's exactly the sort of keeper we need tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: I raised this point a few weeks ago, but sometimes if you dare to ask questions of the only stalwart in our defence, Flint, you don't get the discussion the question merits. Yeah, wasn't there a remark about "destroying our mistakes"? Not that he has made calamitous errors a la David James but neither has he done what he was brought in to do - improve upon our existing number 1. Very true! Must be only me and you that see him as back up at best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Didnt even try to save the goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I don't understand what people think he's done wrong, I think he looks by far the best keeper we've had in a while. Hasn't been responsible for any of the goals conceded and his kicking against Newcastle was spot on, found Wilbs consistently. In order to keep clean sheets you have to have an organised defence it's not just down to the keeper. How many clean sheets did Heaton keep when he played for us yet he's in the England set-up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hasn't played for two seasons. Not difficult to see why. Another master stroke of a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The problem isn't the goalkeeper, we've had 4 this season yet the defenders in front of them rarely change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, aa_bcfc said: Hasn't played for two seasons. Not difficult to see why. Another master stroke of a signing. Agree, in fact all of the January signings have been magnificent - fantastic work by Des, Mark and LJ. I was getting worried when we were slipping down the table back end of last year, but the players they have brought in have made a huge difference. Cant't wait to see what 'gems' they secure in the summer........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Think that ex-Sutton keeper is now available and he's definitely within our traditional goalkeeping budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 51 minutes ago, yardy said: We sold our best keeper.....along with our best striker and right back! No. No. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Geifer, Geifer, dodgy keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 I dont think he caught a ball tonight plus that pass straight to their player summed him up for me. Probably on £10k a week as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 To answer the question why we signed him, you must look at who is agent is...and if you keep pulling that thread it all starts to become very depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Remember when we thought Tom Heaton was shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, MarcusX said: Remember when we thought Tom Heaton was shit? Nope. I thought Basso was though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 He looks a little rusty - but what did he do wrong tonight ? He looked ok, and not much he could have done for the goals, and he took one for the team completely taking out a player for the penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We should've bought in Bentley from Southend. Been great for Brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I t does make me laugh..... when a players surname is the only thread title, you just know it's NOT going to be full of praise ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Big Red Rich said: Nope. I thought Basso was though. Basso was like the goalkeeping equivalent of Schrödinger's cat. He was both shit and amazing at the same time. Quantum mechanics eh? Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 I posted this in a fit of rage & have now got back (finally!) from villa. Not much has changed in my view, he just looks a week keeper, his kicking is shoddy & he made an awful mistake that nearlycost us. Flint proper lost his rag with him, says a lot i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, 8MenWith1Dream said: Who is his agent, and what other players at the club does he represent? When did Flint lose his rag with him? Giefer did nowt wrong tonight. So he didnt pass it straight to their player? I must have been watching a different game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, 8MenWith1Dream said: Who is his agent, and what other players at the club does he represent? When did Flint lose his rag with him? Giefer did nowt wrong tonight. Flint lost his rag when he refused to play on when Kodjia was pussying around in the floor... he was fuming... haven't seen him that passionate in a while!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: Apparently he had a good game Saturday. Can't see what he done wrong tonight. Not at fault for either goal What about the horrendous penalty he gave away, or the pass straight to the opposition which narrowly didn't end in a goal. He was good Saturday but every other game he's been nothing short of a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I think keeper is one position in particular where the player ideally needs a good run of games in-front of a settled defence in one formation as a bedding in period; especially if, like Giefer, you've not been playing regularly. Logically this would be pre-season. To bring him in mid-season when there's no time for a bedding in period, as well as potential further issues coming into a new country and playing new with teammates speaking his second or third language looks like an error of judgement. With his pedigree i've no doubt he's a good keeper when settled and familiar. Seems a mistake to bring in a foreign keeper, who hasn't been playing that regularly, mid-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Wasn't there, but those who went to Newcastle appeared to be singing his praises. A case of "we lost so let's find a scapegoat" possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintWonderwall Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: What about the horrendous penalty he gave away, or the pass straight to the opposition which narrowly didn't end in a goal. He was good Saturday but every other game he's been nothing short of a disaster. Horrendous penalty? Hardly much he could do he had to commit to the ball. Suspect backpass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, FlintWonderwall said: Horrendous penalty? Hardly much he could do he had to commit to the ball. Suspect backpass It was crap all round but no he didn't have to commit, the ball was going out for a goal kick by the time he wiped out the attacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: What about the horrendous penalty he gave away, or the pass straight to the opposition which narrowly didn't end in a goal. He was good Saturday but every other game he's been nothing short of a disaster. Horrendous penalty. Ye totally his fault. If you're going to criticise him fair enough. But to blame him for the penalty is IMO is bullshit . As for being a disaster. He doesn't look out of place with the majority of the outfield players. Or the head coach or the owner this season. Because the whole ******* thing has been nothing short of a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I refuse to believe that none of the goalkeepers we've ever been through are any good. I lie the blame firmly at the feet of what's in front of him and the coaching thereof. Remember when everyone thought Heaton was crap? We could have had Neuer in goal this season and we wouldn't be any better off. Very harsh to blame a keeper for our issues at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I refuse to believe that none of the goalkeepers we've ever been through are any good. I lie the blame firmly at the feet of what's in front of him and the coaching thereof. Remember when everyone thought Heaton was crap? We could have had Neuer in goal this season and we wouldn't be any better off. Very harsh to blame a keeper for our issues at the moment. Heaton got voted player of the season so that's blatantly not true is it. I remember saying when he joined Burnley that he'd play for England, and he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: Heaton got voted player of the season so that's blatantly not true is it. I remember saying when he joined Burnley that he'd play for England, and he did. Not saying much that season is it! Every time we conceded people were moaning at him even though he couldn't have done much about it with the ineptitude of our defence. Not saying Giefer is brilliant but like I said - we could have Neuer and we'd still be where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 For the record i didnt think the pen was his fault. The ball was underhit so he had to commit and try to get the ball. He tried to play the ball.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Really don't know what he's done to deserve all this. Our best player Saturday, according to the two Sunday papers I read. And didn't do too much wrong last night, that pass aside, and that didn't cost us. Flint lost his rag when he didn't play the ball out quickly when a Villa player was lying injured on the ground. The ref was always going to stop play anyway so really not sure why Flint was getting so wound up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I see where you're coming from Rich, looks a bit of a liability to me. Nowhere near as impressive as I thought he'd be. Still can't work out why he didn't come for the ball for that first Newcastle goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 11 hours ago, ashton_fan said: I don't understand what people think he's done wrong, I think he looks by far the best keeper we've had in a while. Hasn't been responsible for any of the goals conceded and his kicking against Newcastle was spot on, found Wilbs consistently. In order to keep clean sheets you have to have an organised defence it's not just down to the keeper. How many clean sheets did Heaton keep when he played for us yet he's in the England set-up now. Difference is, you could see and tell that Heaton was class. Absolutely brilliant between the sticks. Doesn't mean he can save every single one, that's the defence and midfields fault if they're not closing down. However against Fulham, Wednesday etc, he's looked incredibly dodgy. Couldn't even catch a cold. For someone of his height and experience, he should be so much more commanding of his area, and be able to at least catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Wants to punch EVERYTHING..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: Wants to punch EVERYTHING..... So why at Newcastle, did he catch EVERYTHING? This thread is a joke. Our team is full of errors, all over the park, yet we choose to make Giefer the scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 8 hours ago, FlintWonderwall said: Horrendous penalty? Hardly much he could do he had to commit to the ball. Suspect backpass Awful Backpass from Reid, total hospital ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Kingswoodactor said: So why at Newcastle, did he catch EVERYTHING? This thread is a joke. Our team is full of errors, all over the park, yet we choose to make Giefer the scapegoat. Does our keeper fill you with confidence? If, like most of us, he doesn't, imagine what the shakey back 4 think aswell. I want him to do well, I want him to succeed and be amazing. Just can't see it happening, so regarding your 'this thread is a joke' comment, hardly, when the question has to be asked, who scouted him and brought him in if he's rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Akira said: Does our keeper fill you with confidence? If, like most of us, he doesn't, imagine what the shakey back 4 think aswell. I want him to do well, I want him to succeed and be amazing. Just can't see it happening, so regarding your 'this thread is a joke' comment, hardly, when the question has to be asked, who scouted him and brought him in if he's rubbish? After seeing him in the flesh at Newcastle for the first time, I thought he did pretty damn well, and commanded his box better than I've seen from any City keeper this season. He's got a shower of **** playing in front of him, so I'm just curious as to why he needs to have a thread dedicated to him, when our whole back 4 could have individual threads too. And believe me, there's plenty I'd have to say about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Akira said: Does our keeper fill you with confidence? If, like most of us, he doesn't, imagine what the shakey back 4 think aswell. I want him to do well, I want him to succeed and be amazing. Just can't see it happening, so regarding your 'this thread is a joke' comment, hardly, when the question has to be asked, who scouted him and brought him in if he's rubbish? Do you actually watch the games or just listen to the radio commentary? I actually go to the games and can't find any fault with Giefer other than he can't kick with his left foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 All I'll say about Giefer is, I see no improvement on Fielding. I'll go as far to say, give it back to Fielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityshippers Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Do you actually watch the games or just listen to the radio commentary? I actually go to the games and can't find any fault with Giefer other than he can't kick with his left foot. I think another weakness he has is he stays close to his line or 6 yard box. A few times I've seen both centre backs calling him to come and collect the ball. His starting point giving away the pen last night was an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Big Red Rich said: Wants to punch EVERYTHING..... Be my guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, cityshippers said: I think another weakness he has is he stays close to his line or 6 yard box. A few times I've seen both centre backs calling him to come and collect the ball. His starting point giving away the pen last night was an example. He can't be blamed for the pen, how could have he expected a backpass like that, Reid has to take the blame for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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