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Seems to me only two candidates, possibly 3.

1. Benny Lennartson

2. Tony 'Tiny Penis' Pulis

3. Lee Johnson

4. Other (please specify in a post)

FWIW, it has to be Pulis for the most boring football ever, being a complete see you next Tuesday and all his 'off field' activities such as flogging Akinbiyi for personal gain. The bloke is a stain on our history. 

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2 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

Seems to me only two candidates, possibly 3.

1. Benny Lennartson

2. Tony 'Tiny Penis' Pulis

3. Lee Johnson

 

That vote so far is quite emphatic, almost 67%,  who would have thought that Little Lee would have polled more that Tony Pulis.  Just shows how much our fans want him out.

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1 minute ago, Robin Ashton said:

My vote goes to SOD.

Benny shouldn't be on the list.

 

I only put Benny in because the results under him were woeful. The bloke himself is a nice chap and he really tried his best with what John Ward left behind after he threw his toys out the pram.

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1 minute ago, Super said:

Copout.

Specifically didn't put Coppell in as he lasted 2 minutes so no one knows how it would have been had he lasted longer and he left because SL kept trying to teach him how to suck eggs. 

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Just now, Septic Peg said:

Specifically didn't put Coppell in as he lasted 2 minutes so no one knows how it would have been had he lasted longer and he left because SL kept trying to teach him how to suck eggs. 

Least the other tried and failed. He was just a gutless waste of space.

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Take a look at how many City fans were watching City when Osman started.

Then take a look at how many were left when he was sacked.

Then if you know anybody who still went to the away games and went to Pompey on that Saturday to watch City.

Ask them how many stayed in the ground till half time to watch Osman defensive machine ground out its 0-0.

The Police escorted over half the away support into a nearby pub during a game !!!

Lee Johnson has some way to go to beat that.

Worst is a notion.

 

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I have a bit of sympathy for Osman. The board at the time were in turmoil. This was the era of the 'reform group' and 'European football in 5 years' (ooh er where have we heard that before?). The same board that got caught fiddling the books with the FA grant to build the Atyeo stand.

Osman had virtually no cash to play with over the summer of 94 and if you look at how many young (and rubbish) players we fielded at the time we were always on a hiding to nothing. Joe Jordan had almost 3/4 of a season to keep us up with that squad and didn't even come close. 

Life under Osman wasn't great but it wasn't all his fault and besides, we will always have Anfield.

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It's a hard one- I think SOD should be on the list though, took us to depths not seen since our collapse down the Leagues in the early 80s. Never thought I would see a time when a Bristol City team would take until the end of October to win a League game- in the third Tier!!

Of that list though- Pulis though probably in my time, he was just a terrible fit, terrible football, a string of dismal draws...selling anyone with a bit of flair, bringing in journeymen past their best.

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SOD was a total disaster from start to finish.  He got us relegated without a whimper and would have got us relegated to League 2 if he had stayed.  However bad LJ has been for the last 4 and a half months, he prevented a relegation last season and did well for 2 and a half months this season.  Osman also kept us up 1 season, and what we would give for a manager who could grind out a result these days! So its a SOD from me...

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I think this highlights the recency effect as much as anything.

Although some were against LJ from the start, he delivered good performances and results from January to October last year. It's only recently that things went downhill.

Benny was a nice man who inherited an awful squad in a league he didn't know. That's not his fault, though the results were definitely poor.

Pulis is dishonest, plays awful football, bought terrible, expensive, players and generally sowed division around the place. He might be the best manager of the three in terms of results elsewhere but he was a disaster for City.

However, had the option been there, I would probably have voted for Coppell. His unwillingness to take the job seriously showed utter contempt for the club and its supporters. Johnson may be struggling but he's putting the hours in. Coppell was a Tony Dinning of a manager: he just couldn't be bothered.

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29 minutes ago, Robin Ashton said:

My vote goes to SOD.

Benny shouldn't be on the list.

 

Agree Benny was ace, he was just very very unlucky, and we were playing nice football ahhh the diamond.  Where the hell is Mc'Winless?  At least with LJ/MA the signings have been OK I cant forgive Del for Foster! At least if we get rid of LJ we still have an half decent squad that someone might be able to get to perform to its potential.  

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9 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Ridiculous that SOD isn't on the list. Worst City manager by a distance

I've attended football matches for 45 years. The only time I've ever fallen asleep at a match was during SOD's time here.

The football was as tedious as the didactic football theories he delivered in a grating monotone. 

Add to the fact, he thought he could walk on water and you have by a country mile the worst period of my City supporting life.

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4 minutes ago, New Dazzler said:

SOD was a total disaster from start to finish.  He got us relegated without a whimper and would have got us relegated to League 2 if he had stayed.  However bad LJ has been for the last 4 and a half months, he prevented a relegation last season and did well for 2 and a half months this season.  Osman also kept us up 1 season, and what we would give for a manager who could grind out a result these days! So its a SOD from me...

Me too!!! 

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For me it must be Pulis. Terrible football to watch. Season ticket holder for many seasons, but stopped going after a few games of his type of 'football'. Closely followed by S' OD ( I don't look at league tables). 

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7 minutes ago, New Dazzler said:

SOD was a total disaster from start to finish.  He got us relegated without a whimper and would have got us relegated to League 2 if he had stayed.  However bad LJ has been for the last 4 and a half months, he prevented a relegation last season and did well for 2 and a half months this season.  Osman also kept us up 1 season, and what we would give for a manager who could grind out a result these days! So its a SOD from me...

Some seemed to think he was turning things around!

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26 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

Seems to me only two candidates, possibly 3.

1. Benny Lennartson

2. Tony 'Tiny Penis' Pulis

3. Lee Johnson

4. Other (please specify in a post)

FWIW, it has to be Pulis for the most boring football ever, being a complete see you next Tuesday and all his 'off field' activities such as flogging Akinbiyi for personal gain. The bloke is a stain on our history. 

No contest on your thoughts on Pulis.. But whilst it's definitely time for Lee to go, does he really even deserve to be mentioned in the same post / poll as that ****? For all of his failings, he's tried, he left a reasonably comfortable position to come here and there's no doubt he Is hurting....

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7 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I've attended football matches for 45 years. The only time I've ever fallen asleep at a match was during SOD's time here.

The football was as tedious as the didactic football theories he delivered in a grating monotone. 

Add to the fact, he thought he could walk on water and you have by a country mile the worst period of my City supporting life.

I couldn't have put it better myself!

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7 minutes ago, Bullbag said:

Johnson.

Two reasons, awful football and results and the huge funds he's had available to him.

2nd,  Pulis.

SOD wasn't great either.

 

Not defending Johnson as such, but what is our wage bill at this level? By which I mean how does it compare to the other sides at the level- my hunch is lower midtable so we are still underachieving but not wildly so. Yes I think he needs to go but a comparison of wage bills would be useful and interesting (conversely, Barnsley and Preston are very much overachieving). Burton are also probably doing better than they should.

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14 minutes ago, Red Rag said:

Sod. Its the only city manager that seriously left me questioning is it Worth renewing my season ticket.

Still recall that Sheff United game.

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So about 5 votes for SOD, 2 for Coppell and 1 for Osman in the others I reckon.

Still gobsmacked that LJ is getting a higher poll than Pulis but I suppose younger fans wouldn't have seen him in action. 

I tried to balance results v personalities v style of football when I surmised the options. Perhaps I shouldn't have put Benny on it and put SOD instead after his flippy flappy TV interview...

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32 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said:

 

However, had the option been there, I would probably have voted for Coppell. His unwillingness to take the job seriously showed utter contempt for the club and its supporters. Johnson may be struggling but he's putting the hours in. Coppell was a Tony Dinning of a manager: he just couldn't be bothered.

If rumours are correct he couldn't be bothered because he was undermined by the top man. Unlike everyone else, he had the integrity to walk away from a job that wasn't the one he was apparently promised.

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7 minutes ago, Loon plage said:

If rumours are correct he couldn't be bothered because he was undermined by the top man. Unlike everyone else, he had the integrity to walk away from a job that wasn't the one he was apparently promised.

He got the job in April. He didn't turn up for work until at least June.

As I recall he didn't even bother to come and watch the team in those last 2 months of the season.

He'd have known what he was getting himself into if he'd done his due diligence.

He'd have known within days or at least weeks what things were like at the club. He could have walked away at any point.

Instead he made a half arsed effort at pre-season, spent money on names he already knew (plus Adomah, which was a good signing and I have to give him that) and then "had the integrity to walk away" when it became clear the season was going to be anything but a stately procession towards promotion.

I have zero sympathy for the man. I don't care what he was promised, or what SL allegedly did or did not do. I care about what Steve Coppell did, which was less than nothing, before flouncing off in a huff, leaving Millen to clear up his mess. I find the idea that anyone could describe that as "integrity" somewhat baffling.

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1 minute ago, BCFC_Dan said:

He got the job in April. He didn't turn up for work until at least June.

As I recall he didn't even bother to come and watch the team in those last 2 months of the season.

He'd have known what he was getting himself into if he'd done his due diligence.

He'd have known within days or at least weeks what things were like at the club. He could have walked away at any point.

Instead he made a half arsed effort at pre-season, spent money on names he already knew (plus Adomah, which was a good signing and I have to give him that) and then "had the integrity to walk away" when it became clear the season was going to be anything but a stately procession towards promotion.

I have zero sympathy for the man. I don't care what he was promised, or what SL allegedly did or did not do. I care about what Steve Coppell did, which was less than nothing, before flouncing off in a huff, leaving Millen to clear up his mess. I find the idea that anyone could describe that as "integrity" somewhat baffling.

How do you know all of the above Dan? genuine question.

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1 minute ago, Loon plage said:

How do you know all of the above Dan? genuine question.

Which bit? He was definitely announced as the next manager in April but had "commitments", which prevented him from even watching the team play out the end of the season under Millen. I remember being quite disappointed about that at the time, though I was still excited at having such a high profile name in charge.

The rest is clear just from what happened. I don't know what went on with SL or who signed David James. I don't care. If Coppell was undermined by the signing, why didn't he resign there and then?

I have no insider information or anything, I just know what was reported, and it's not consistent with a man being sold a job on a false premise, it's consistent with a man who took a job and then decided it was too much like hard work.

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1. O'Driscoll has to be up there but bear in mind he had no £ and was asked to undertake a rebuild of the club, which he did. A lot of the nucleus of the double winning side came from SOD.He was also being given the team sheet by all accounts by certain board members and was happy to sing to their tune. Cotterill only came in because he would not work under that structure. Given we were heading to League Two the board had little choice to adhere to his wishes. Plainly this was also the reason he went as it is clear SL wanted to bring in Ashton to run the club and Cotterill was having none of it.....

2. Johnson has to be the leading candidate because unlike all of our other managers, he has been given the resources and has simply not delivered.  When has a Bristol City manager been able to leave million pound players out of the side? Tomlin, Magnusson, Moore, Engvall, O'Dowda... It is really shocking at the resources this guy has had and we are 4th from bottom.... For that reason, he is the worst manager because he can have NO excuses.  

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30 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

At least Osman achieved something which will be remembered forever, LJ has done nothing despite spending more than any of his predicessors, however for me SOD has to be on the list, took us down, awful football.  

Done nothing but keep us up comfortably when we looked doomed last season... May not have worked out this season but at least give the guy some credit for what he did.

 

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2 hours ago, Septic Peg said:

Seems to me only two candidates, possibly 3.

1. Benny Lennartson

2. Tony 'Tiny Penis' Pulis

3. Lee Johnson

4. Other (please specify in a post)

FWIW, it has to be Pulis for the most boring football ever, being a complete see you next Tuesday and all his 'off field' activities such as flogging Akinbiyi for personal gain. The bloke is a stain on our history. 

not sure what number my post was but when you were at school should have done history :-) 

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26 minutes ago, reddoh said:

not sure what number my post was but when you were at school should have done history :-) 

I did. Just my stupid history teachers were more interested in teaching me about the Battle of Hastings or Alexander Fleming's discovery of penicillin.

I think if the history of BCFC had been on the syllabus, half the boys in my class would have paid a lot more attention! Regrettably, the other half were gasheads so would have failed miserably...

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Just looked up the stats and LJ has a 38% win record which is statistically better than Alan Dicks 33%

In fact since GJ left (40%) McInnes (27%) and SOD (25%) are the worst (I have excluded caretaker stints).

In fact LJ ranks 16/41 managers in our history according to the managers statistics site.

 

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10 minutes ago, Septic Peg said:

I did. Just my stupid history teachers were more interested in teaching me about the Battle of Hastings or Alexander Fleming's discovery of penicillin.

I think if the history of BCFC had been on the syllabus, half the boys in my class would have paid a lot more attention! Regrettably, the other half were gasheads so would have failed miserably...

don't worry the gasheads have failed miserably ever since.just too remind you the battle of hastings was actually in battle, Harold lost an eye(careless) defense keep an eye on the ball and Fleming invented the thing for the man who had everything he needs.

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21 minutes ago, CHIPLEY RED said:

Just looked up the stats and LJ has a 38% win record which is statistically better than Alan Dicks 33%

In fact since GJ left (40%) McInnes (27%) and SOD (25%) are the worst (I have excluded caretaker stints).

In fact LJ ranks 16/41 managers in our history according to the managers statistics site.

 

So, better than Alan Dicks and more than one poster has compared his early tenure here to that of Alex Ferguson.

Looks like we could be on to a winner here lads and lasses.......

 

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2 hours ago, Septic Peg said:

I only put Benny in because the results under him were woeful. The bloke himself is a nice chap and he really tried his best with what John Ward left behind after he threw his toys out the pram.

There was slow, gradual improvement under Benny. The opposite is happening under Johnson.

Because Benny took over such a complete mess his improvement wasn't sufficient to keep us up.

Johnson has had sufficient stability, been given sufficient money, players, patience, support - drones! - to keep us up comfortably. The results have been beyond pitiful.  

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Lee Johnson for me is the worst Manager we have had, simple as.

Has had more money to spend than any other Man and yet still has the worst losing run a City team has had. I could not blame SOD, McInnes and Millen entirely for the garbage that was at our club at the time as the players were ban average and couldnt be sold on due to long contracts. 

Thought we had learned our lesson than Johnson Jr comes along and its the same thing all over again.

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2 hours ago, nimrod said:

Russell Osman must be right up there.

His style of football was dreadful but let's not forget - he was given virtually no money to spend - NONE.

Compare that to the unprecendented riches given to the present joker and it's obvious who's the bigger failure, wouldn't you say?

And no-one can take that night at Anfield away from Osman either.

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2 hours ago, New Dazzler said:

SOD was a total disaster from start to finish.  He got us relegated without a whimper and would have got us relegated to League 2 if he had stayed.  However bad LJ has been for the last 4 and a half months, he prevented a relegation last season and did well for 2 and a half months this season.  Osman also kept us up 1 season, and what we would give for a manager who could grind out a result these days! So its a SOD from me...

Total rubbish. Pemberton kept us up and we rode are luck for the first couple of months this year. Anyone with half an idea of football could see our early season position was false and wouldn't last. LJ hasn't a clue what he's doing. Doesn't know his best team, formation, tactics or anything other than how to brown tongue SL

 

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Tiny Penis was the worst manager I can remember.

"Triffic" Tony loved a six footer so we signed Steve "the tan" Jones & Peter Beadle. 

Jonesey looked awkward & hapless but had a wonderful tan. Beads of course was tainted with gas

At the time these signings were so uninspiring that when one of them scored there was only a ripple of polite applause around Ashton Gate. Never witnessed that before.  

Dreadful bloke, sucked the life out of the club. Odious.

 

Russell Osman has to come close simply because he helped to get rid of Jacki in favour of players like the "prolific" Liam Robinson.

 

 

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