Numero Uno Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 49 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: You say that, but maybe it was deliberate ploy as others have posted on this board about. Could be either really,as it took us until about Brentford in December to concede a 2nd half goal at home! A deliberate ploy? More like one of Baldrick's cunning plans!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Aside from being surely the only league manager ever to achieve 8 straight league defeats at TWO clubs in a 12 month period... ...we have also only scored 1 goal from open play in the first half at home all season (Tammy v Reading). That's 18 games = 810 minutes or 13.5 hours of play. Blimey Kid Letting that sink in - That is shocking , damning , inexcusable And your excuses for that Lee ? MA ? SL ? LJ Supporters ? Anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Don't worry he's just warming up, he's trying to find his best formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Blimey Kid Letting that sink in - That is shocking , damning , inexcusable And your excuses for that Lee ? MA ? SL ? LJ Supporters ? Anyone ? They all had "better resources" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 It's all Pembo's fault obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 49 minutes ago, Chris said: HIS team selections? Just a view / suspicion Chris ? or some knowledge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, glynriley said: Perhaps "bomb alley" and the "corridor of uncertainty" don't open until 4pm. I remember that "corridor of uncertainty". Wasn't it when Derek Pringle's bowling left Viv Richards uncertain as to whether to hit him for four or six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellspokenman Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I well remember our lack of first half goals, been a major problem all season as you say. Even including penalties- Ipswich Tomlin pen was our FIRST home goal of the season in the first half- in December which is truly atrocious. Always found it odd that we had to rely on 2nd half rallies at home week in week out and always was worried it would catch up with us in the end. Ah yes, and speaking of Tomlin's penalties, I see that they have moved the goal into Ashton Road to give him a better of chance of hitting it next time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I read this morning that Lincoln have won more games against Championship sides in 2017 than we have. Given that they have only played two games, it is pretty harrowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 And in that sort of form we will easily make the Europa League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 This is another blinding stat for our promising young coach's CV. He's building up quite a body of work for himself. I think my personal favourite is still 2 wins in half a league season though. Not many promising young coaches manage to achieve that kind of consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: I think that last line is true. A strength and weakness of most football managers is an unshakeable self-belief. Of course, in ye olden days when I first started following football, managers didn't have to face the cameras that often. Their mysterious pronouncements would occasionally make the Evening Post, but pre-match and post-match press conferences had yet to be standard. I'm sure Lee isn't the only one who'd love to go back to those halcyon days. But in those days, it was quite normal for fans to travel on the same trains as team and manager, especially on the return home journey. I and other City fans travelled several times with Fred Ford to away games. Most interesting train rides if my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Aside from being surely the only league manager ever to achieve 8 straight league defeats at TWO clubs in a 12 month period... ...we have also only scored 1 goal from open play in the first half at home all season (Tammy v Reading). That's 18 games = 810 minutes or 13.5 hours of play. Hardly surprising the players and supporters have absolutely no confidence of winning games. He really is in a league of his own... I was going to Tweet those facts to SL, JL and the Club, and ask why they can change the Rugby coach when results are shockingly bad, but not LJ . But I think I'm done, I just can't be bothered. I am at as low a place as I've ever been, including '82. At least in 82 an escape wasn't as easy as just sack the manager and get some real experience in. I know there are no guarantees but having an inept coach,panicking and shuffling players and formation by the minute is no way to run a club. If we added an experienced coach, even alongside LJ , we may have been able to get out of this shit storm , but no. We sack an experienced coach, and the one who showed passion, and replaced him with the equivalent of a YTS trainee beggars belief . We are down (baring miracles ) , next year SL's lovely stadium may as well shut the whole of the West stand as crowds will probably fit in the other 3. And Lee will still be there making excuses and telling us that Xxxxxxxx are a big club and difficult opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Xiled said: I would be fairly sure he's offered to resign at least once but it hasn't been accepted, yet. Presumably "offering to resign" (as opposed to resigning) is just the equivalent of fishing for love, much as some people post they are leaving facebook or OTIB but don't. For the record, any offer by LJ to leave OTIB should be accepted immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellspokenman Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Coppello said: I read this morning that Lincoln have won more games against Championship sides in 2017 than we have. Given that they have only played two games, it is pretty harrowing. LJ out. The Cowley Bothers in, has my vote.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: But in those days, it was quite normal for fans to travel on the same trains as team and manager, especially on the return home journey. I and other City fans travelled several times with Fred Ford to away games. Most interesting train rides if my life. Yep. Let's face it everything is more distant and corporate these days. I don't know why people think football clubs would be different. It's a product of money sloshing into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Xiled said: There's been a couple of times in the last two months when his body language and interview replies have given the impression that he's about to walk. It was either after Leeds or Villa when he started talking about factions within the squad and players needing to socialise together, knowing who he could trust etc. I would be fairly sure he's offered to resign at least once but it hasn't been accepted, yet. I wouldn't be at all surprised, Xiled. Remember the long wait before his comments after Fulham? I thought that was going to be a Tinnion moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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woodsy62 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: That is really shocking when we are nearly 11weeks into the new year thank god Lincoln won't be in league 1 with us next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, Wellspokenman said: LJ out. The Cowley Bothers in, has my vote.... Cowley brothers in , Chuckle brothers out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Not sure if appropriate in this particular thread but i, like alot of fellow Reds, don't wish LJ any ill harm or feeling, we speak with passion and incredulity about what is happening with our beloved club. So, when he was at Oldham and Barnsley, he did ok, didn't pull up any trees so to speak (we all know about the terrible losing run at the Tykes..), gets the managerial reins at City and (admittedly) does a grand job in saving us last season. What i don't get is this....he surely can't be THAT stubborn & blinkered to realise that as well as the damage being done to the club by possible/inevitable relegation (or the miracle of a last day escape...who knows!), he's harming himself and his own future managerial opportunities? Particularly a club the size that we are, with the financial backing thats he's had (take any personal feelings for SL out of the equation for a moment..), the catchment fanbase, the home & away suport (particularly in this dire run we're on..), the stadium, the recent history of winning (L1 champions, JPT winners).... With all that, at some point LJ has got to be thinking to himself, how did all this opportunity go so badly wrong? In a similar parallel, David Moyes @ Everton.....many a season with the Toffees over achieving, then the golden seat (poisoned chalice?) to take over from Sir AF, that doesn't work out (unfairly treated i thought....), his stock now falling...then to Spain for Real Sociadad, complete disaster and now taking Sunderland into the Championship. Inevitably, his profile will be at its lowest when he leaves or gets sacked, and he'll be thinking 'how did this all go so terribly wrong?'. Please don't think for a moment that i'm equating LJ to DM, far from it...but surely even in his most stubborn moments, looking into the eyes of the players in the dressing room, surveying the pitch from the touchline during the game, the trudge into the dressing room after the game (either a game thrown away from being in front, or a poor performance generally in one of our many (non) must win games (Rotherham, Burton), LJ has to be thinking at some point 'i've f**ked this up...and badly'. Or do we think he's so thick skinned that he doesn't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: Not sure if appropriate in this particular thread but i, like alot of fellow Reds, don't wish LJ any ill harm or feeling, we speak with passion and incredulity about what is happening with our beloved club. So, when he was at Oldham and Barnsley, he did ok, didn't pull up any trees so to speak (we all know about the terrible losing run at the Tykes..), gets the managerial reins at City and (admittedly) does a grand job in saving us last season. What i don't get is this....he surely can't be THAT stubborn & blinkered to realise that as well as the damage being done to the club by possible/inevitable relegation (or the miracle of a last day escape...who knows!), he's harming himself and his own future managerial opportunities? Particularly a club the size that we are, with the financial backing thats he's had (take any personal feelings for SL out of the equation for a moment..), the catchment fanbase, the home & away suport (particularly in this dire run we're on..), the stadium, the recent history of winning (L1 champions, JPT winners).... With all that, at some point LJ has got to be thinking to himself, how did all this opportunity go so badly wrong? In a similar parallel, David Moyes @ Everton.....many a season with the Toffees over achieving, then the golden seat (poisoned chalice?) to take over from Sir AF, that doesn't work out (unfairly treated i thought....), his stock now falling...then to Spain for Real Sociadad, complete disaster and now taking Sunderland into the Championship. Inevitably, his profile will be at its lowest when he leaves or gets sacked, and he'll be thinking 'how did this all go so terribly wrong?'. Please don't think for a moment that i'm equating LJ to DM, far from it...but surely even in his most stubborn moments, looking into the eyes of the players in the dressing room, surveying the pitch from the touchline during the game, the trudge into the dressing room after the game (either a game thrown away from being in front, or a poor performance generally in one of our many (non) must win games (Rotherham, Burton), LJ has to be thinking at some point 'i've f**ked this up...and badly'. Or do we think he's so thick skinned that he doesn't care? He's winging it like the rest of us. Unfortunately for him the majority of City fans have sussed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: We're usually set up wrong and it takes until the second half to be corrected. I remember when he took over from Cotterill thinking "at least he knows when things aren't working and takes action" but it's now clear he doesn't know how to avoid things not working in the first place. This is bang on RR. And because it happens so often, the players eventually lose faith in anything he tells them and when we go a goal behind they don't believe, deep down, that he's given them the right tools (tactics etc) for the job. He might not have lost the dressing room, I'm sure the players would rathe rnot be relegated, but I suspect they don't believe deep down in what he is getting them to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: This is bang on RR. And because it happens so often, the players eventually lose faith in anything he tells them and when we go a goal behind they don't believe, deep down, that he's given them the right tools (tactics etc) for the job. He might not have lost the dressing room, I'm sure the players would rathe rnot be relegated, but I suspect they don't believe deep down in what he is getting them to do. Indeed. The players are clearly trying their best, but they must sometimes feel like the Tommies sent "over the top" in World War One! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jacki said: This is another blinding stat for our promising young coach's CV I think we should try to get Lee Johnson's CV on the shortlist for this years Booker Prize for Fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Aside from being surely the only league manager ever to achieve 8 straight league defeats at TWO clubs in a 12 month period... ...we have also only scored 1 goal from open play in the first half at home all season (Tammy v Reading). That's 18 games = 810 minutes or 13.5 hours of play. Hardly surprising the players and supporters have absolutely no confidence of winning games. He really is in a league of his own... This stat is horrible, just horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: This stat is horrible, just horrible. Which one? The two lots of 8 game defeats on the trot at two well resourced clubs at their respective levels would be more than enough to put the shitters up any prospective employer, and prove he really does have a demented version of the Midas touch where everything he touches turns to shite instead of gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Which one? The two lots of 8 game defeats on the trot at two well resourced clubs at their respective levels would be more than enough to put the shitters up any prospective employer, and prove he really does have a demented version of the Midas touch where everything he touches turns to shite instead of gold. Sorry mate should have been more specific they are both horrible but the first half home goals stat is a sackable offence in its own right. Proves he has no clue how to set up a team at home and not learnt from his numerous mistakes. He's spent a fortune on attacking talent but is terrified of using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Aside from being surely the only league manager ever to achieve 8 straight league defeats at TWO clubs in a 12 month period... ...we have also only scored 1 goal from open play in the first half at home all season (Tammy v Reading). That's 18 games = 810 minutes or 13.5 hours of play. Hardly surprising the players and supporters have absolutely no confidence of winning games. He really is in a league of his own... He really is in a league of his own!,bit of a stupid comment .................He's in a world of his own,the one with pixies and fairies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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