B block Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: Thank you I could not give a toss about gt unless he who's Lansdown lining up next To be honest I think he'd do a better job, I'm not joking either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just wish GT was allowed to give a more honest assessment of the City coach and management. Unfortunately, BCFC can't cope with criticism and would veto honest journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B block Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Curr Avon said: I was on with Matt Withers, who writes the City Fans View column in the Bristol Post and Pete Denyard. It was great fun in a cathartic kind of way. Mark Tovey Fair play to you, it's difficult to be coherent and to the point in a situation like that and I thought the show kind of emphasised a lot of what we all see as issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Just wish GT was allowed to give a more honest assessment of the City coach and management. Unfortunately, BCFC can't cope with criticism and would veto honest journalism. He didn't argue against the points though, did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: He didn't argue against the points though, did he? No. But I wish he'd express an opinion, as the ex pro he is. Can't think of a time where he's criticised anyone other than the players. A few generic comments along the lines of "most other managers would probably have lost their job" but nothing terribly insightful about his opinion of LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, CotswoldRed said: No. But I wish he'd express an opinion, as the ex pro he is. Can't think of a time where he's criticised anyone other than the players. A fee generic comments along the lines of "most other managers would probably have lost their job" but nothing terribly insightful about his opinion of LJ. he's trying to be as diplomatic as possible. He is more likely to interview LJ and co than the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said: he's trying to be as diplomatic as possible. He is more likely to interview LJ and co than the players Rather he was a bit more "Alan Green". Why the need for diplomacy? If he's allowed to praise the club, he should be allowed to provide a decent critique of it's shortcomings. He doesn't need to be their friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I remember being at various away games in the past where we've got a win and the local BBC presenters have been scathing about the home team/club . I like GT , he does ask searching questions but on Saturday a caller asked his opinion and he ducked the question. Perhaps he's not allowed to have a public opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Give me twentyman over ed "master interrogator" hadwin anyday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: I remember being at various away games in the past where we've got a win and the local BBC presenters have been scathing about the home team/club . I like GT , he does ask searching questions but on Saturday a caller asked his opinion and he ducked the question. Perhaps he's not allowed to have a public opinion . That isn't his job though, is it? What exactly is the point of someone phoning up a radio programme to give their opinion and then asking the presenter what he thinks? For what it is worth I think the overall standard of sports journalism in Bristol, both written and on the radio is amongst the very worst in the country, far worse even than the football that we have to endure, Geoff Twentyman however is an honourable exception to this rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: That isn't his job though, is it? What exactly is the point of someone phoning up a radio programme to give their opinion and then asking the presenter what he thinks? For what it is worth I think the overall standard of sports journalism in Bristol, both written and on the radio is amongst the very worst in the country, far worse even than the football that we have to endure, Geoff Twentyman however is an honourable exception to this rule. Spot on Graham - he's employed as a presenter not a pundit Real good bloke and excellent presenter, (and interviewer when he's allowed) as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B block Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: That isn't his job though, is it? What exactly is the point of someone phoning up a radio programme to give their opinion and then asking the presenter what he thinks? For what it is worth I think the overall standard of sports journalism in Bristol, both written and on the radio is amongst the very worst in the country, far worse even than the football that we have to endure, Geoff Twentyman however is an honourable exception to this rule. Don't limit it to sports journalism, local journalism in this part of the world is nothing short of woeful, anyone whose not terrible stands out like a sore thumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just now, GrahamC said: That isn't his job though, is it? What exactly is the point of someone phoning up a radio programme to give their opinion and then asking the presenter what he thinks? For what it is worth I think the overall standard of sports journalism in Bristol, both written and on the radio is amongst the very worst in the country, far worse even than the football that we have to endure, Geoff Twentyman however is an honourable exception to this rule. I agree graham he is , I'm just comparing with other local stations I've heard around the country. It's awkward for GT obviously , it's just we're all caught up in it so it would be nice to hear an ex pro's opinion of our situation and as someone who's on the outside looking in as it were . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B block Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Spot on Graham - he's employed as a presenter not a pundit Real good bloke and excellent presenter, (and interviewer when he's allowed) as far as I'm concerned I've held him in high regard even since his dark days playing for the evil empire, simply because of how he's is personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 41 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Rather he was a bit more "Alan Green". Why the need for diplomacy? If he's allowed to praise the club, he should be allowed to provide a decent critique of it's shortcomings. He doesn't need to be their friend. SL & Ashton only want yes men in & around them so a pity Geoff can't upset the apple cart a bit without them probably banning him. If LJ was a donkey he'd have been put out of his misery by now as useless, incoherent in that he is a complete hypocrite- i.e. don't blame the players blame me as I pick them or try to and then slags off individuals etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Most telling thing was that Geoff never had the chance to meet Des Taylor, our now departed lauded Scout. We're not as transparent as we say we are; it's just all PR spin & BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 47 posts of nothing to be perfectly honest. More about GT than City. What was said on the show!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 4 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: 47 posts of nothing to be perfectly honest. More about GT than City. What was said on the show!? Unanimous "think we'll go down" from the guests. LJ has tried everything and makes changes at the wrong time, just when players are proving themselves. Total bemusement at where we are really. And they had snippets with LJ. They were riveting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 10 hours ago, B block said: I've held him in high regard even since his dark days playing for the evil empire, simply because of how he's is personally He is a nice man in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Derek from Nailsea said: Most telling thing was that Geoff never had the chance to meet Des Taylor, our now departed lauded Scout. We're not as transparent as we say we are; it's just all PR spin & BS. What other clubs put their scouts in the media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 51 minutes ago, Loon plage said: He is a nice man in my experience. Enough already. Can we get back on topic please. lorra larfs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 4, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: 47 posts of nothing to be perfectly honest. More about GT than City. What was said on the show!? http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04wxfj4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said: Unanimous "think we'll go down" from the guests. LJ has tried everything and makes changes at the wrong time, just when players are proving themselves. Total bemusement at where we are really. And they had snippets with LJ. They were riveting. As we are back on topic, I have to agree with the guests that we will go down. I was like a lot of others jubilant at the result versus Huddersfield and even more so with the performance. Then we play like we did against Brentford and could have got a real walloping in the first half. I look at our remaining games and difficult to see where we are going to scrape the points from. On the other hand this is the Championship so the only surprises now seem to be that we are still surprised by what happens in the Championship! Bracing myself for more torture tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 4, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, supercidered said: As we are back on topic, I have to agree with the guests that we will go down. I was like a lot of others jubilant at the result versus Huddersfield and even more so with the performance. Then we play like we did against Brentford and could have got a real walloping in the first half. I look at our remaining games and difficult to see where we are going to scrape the points from. On the other hand this is the Championship so the only surprises now seem to be that we are still surprised by what happens in the Championship! Bracing myself for more torture tonight! Sadly - exactly the same thoughts as me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 I said we'll stay up. But its more in the hope that the players show their ability rather than taking inspiration from our leader. In my opinion a number of players don't respect Johnson's game plans and that's distracting them on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I said we'll stay up. But its more in the hope that the players show their ability rather than taking inspiration from our leader. In my opinion a number of players don't respect Johnson's game plans and that's distracting them on the pitch. My mistake. Indeed you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I said we'll stay up. But its more in the hope that the players show their ability rather than taking inspiration from our leader. In my opinion a number of players don't respect Johnson's game plans and that's distracting them on the pitch. I think you've hit the nail on the head with this opinion. I hope common sense prevails and we get enough points to stay up especially considering the fantastic double winning season to get us here in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: My mistake. Indeed you did. The thing is CR, we'd all love to be proved wrong about Lee Johnson. Everyone wants to see the team and head coach succeed and hate the current scenario, regardless of our differing opinions. Lets all just pray we survive. Our fans will carry on providing the wonderful support we see each week whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 18 hours ago, B block said: Don't limit it to sports journalism, local journalism in this part of the world is nothing short of woeful, anyone whose not terrible stands out like a sore thumb The Daily Express used to be My favourite paper when I was living in England. I was truly shocked at how low the quality of that paper is now . There is a general ' dumbing ' down in society and it makes me want to scream out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: The Daily Express used to be My favourite paper when I was living in England. I was truly shocked at how low the quality of that paper is now . There is a general ' dumbing ' down in society and it makes me want to scream out The world is getting dumber no doubt about it.. Look who gets elected in some of these banana republics these days just for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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