Major Isewater Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 What are your thoughts on clubs fielding weakened sides, Huddersfield were heavily criticised for making ten changes in their match against Brum which seemed unfair on Forest and Blackburn. I can understand the furore but surely over the season it is the club's faults if they don't get enough points and need to rely on other clubs losing to help them out ? I think Huddersfield earned the right to field the players they wanted to and to save others for the playoffs. Tough titties on the losers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 If it was just Fielding it would definitely be a weakened side. I don't see us scoring many Especially if he's had one of his infamous party's the night before..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Disagree Major. Would have been no problem had Huddersfield been playing a mid-table team with nothing riding on the result, but they were not. The Huddersfield decision to swap out 10 players has gifted Birmingham 3 pts, which they probably would not have got so has a potential direct impact on who goes down. This is disrespectful to the other teams battling to avoid the drop, very poor behaviour in my book and I hope they get a very large fine - not that it will be of much compensation to Forest or Blackburn if they end up going down as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 As you said Huddersfield have earned the right over 44 games to play the side they feel gives them the best chance in the play offs. Think someone said Bradford made 9 changes against Rochdale and no punishment. Ipswich made multiple changes for their game with Rotherham and no charge. The Huddersfield side had over 200 appearances between them, hardly players who don't feature. Mourinho has come out and said he will be resting players with 'more mileage' against Arsenal, they're 1 point behind Man City in 4th but view the Europa league as their easier way into the champions league for next season. Surely then resting players against Arsenal hurts the integrity of the league as much as Huddersfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Yeah, let's put the reserves out in front of a full house with the season we've had. ****!!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Huddersfield quite rightly won't give a shit and why should they? Jeopardise their best shot a promotion just to help out Blackburn & Forest. There's only one team Huddersfield should be worrying about. And that's Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Totally agree with The Major! We fielded a weakened side from November to February and many teams benefitted. I don't want us to get a fine! Also if Forest and BRFC suffer they should look at their lack of points over 46 x 3 and ask themselves where their problem is rather than the football authorities. Possibly an owner not as good as ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: What are your thoughts on clubs fielding weakened sides, Huddersfield were heavily criticised for making ten changes in their match against Brum which seemed unfair on Forest and Blackburn. I can understand the furore but surely over the season it is the club's faults if they don't get enough points and need to rely on other clubs losing to help them out ? I think Huddersfield earned the right to field the players they wanted to and to save others for the playoffs. Tough titties on the losers . Only if the game had no baring on any relegation or promotion battles, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Huddersfield quite rightly won't give a shit and why should they? Jeopardise their best shot a promotion just to help out Blackburn & Forest. There's only one team Huddersfield should be worrying about. And that's Huddersfield. Yeah, with their form, I'd be worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Huddersfield quite rightly won't give a shit and why should they? Jeopardise their best shot a promotion just to help out Blackburn & Forest. There's only one team Huddersfield should be worrying about. And that's Huddersfield. In a way they have though, all the momentum before... now fielding weakened sides will kill it plus its all about position and they have dropped from 3rd to 5th. Swindle did the same thing a couple of years back, fielding weakened sides once they were guaranteed a playoff spot... lost of all of their momentum, what happened to them? I wouldn't be putting my money on them to get promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 As we seemed to field a weakened side for a few months, I don't think we can comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 5, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Huddersfield quite rightly won't give a shit and why should they? Jeopardise their best shot a promotion just to help out Blackburn & Forest. There's only one team Huddersfield should be worrying about. And that's Huddersfield. It's not my viewpoint, but can't argue with @Fordy62, personally think they may have helped Birmingham survive but the way Huddersfield have played recently who's to say the result wouldn't have been the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Why didn't Wagner just say to his troops quietly " Don't put it all in today lads" Would have saved the furore that followed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 LJ hinted he might put some youngsters in yet for the last few games his interviews would have been misleading for our opponents since he's said certain players carrying knocks could be 'bench at best' then they've been named in the side, obviously done on purpose. I reckon the only potential change in the starting line-up could be Vyner for Little, the rest will only come off the bench if we're winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 It's the integrity of the competition that Wagner compromised when making his team selection for the Brum game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: Disagree Major. Would have been no problem had Huddersfield been playing a mid-table team with nothing riding on the result, but they were not. The Huddersfield decision to swap out 10 players has gifted Birmingham 3 pts, which they probably would not have got so has a potential direct impact on who goes down. This is disrespectful to the other teams battling to avoid the drop, very poor behaviour in my book and I hope they get a very large fine - not that it will be of much compensation to Forest or Blackburn if they end up going down as a result. But it's only a problem because they were playing Birmingham. Huddersfield aren't concerned with the opposition, that's none of their business. And whoever goes down, it will be because they didn't get enough points in a 46 game season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Huddersfield quite rightly won't give a shit and why should they? Jeopardise their best shot a promotion just to help out Blackburn & Forest. There's only one team Huddersfield should be worrying about. And that's Huddersfield. Yep I'm all right Jack, what a poor comment to make from an unsporting act. Disliked Wagner from the start, couldn't reason as to why, now I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, downendcity said: It's the integrity of the competition that Wagner compromised when making his team selection for the Brum game. Plus the FA are actually looking into the affair, not that I think they can or will do anything, totally disrespectful thing to do in dropping 10 from the previous line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, hodge said: As you said Huddersfield have earned the right over 44 games to play the side they feel gives them the best chance in the play offs. Think someone said Bradford made 9 changes against Rochdale and no punishment. Ipswich made multiple changes for their game with Rotherham and no charge. The Huddersfield side had over 200 appearances between them, hardly players who don't feature. Mourinho has come out and said he will be resting players with 'more mileage' against Arsenal, they're 1 point behind Man City in 4th but view the Europa league as their easier way into the champions league for next season. Surely then resting players against Arsenal hurts the integrity of the league as much as Huddersfield? The rules don't say they have earned the right. The rules say they are obliged to play a full strength side. Whatever that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: In a way they have though, all the momentum before... now fielding weakened sides will kill it plus its all about position and they have dropped from 3rd to 5th. Swindle did the same thing a couple of years back, fielding weakened sides once they were guaranteed a playoff spot... lost of all of their momentum, what happened to them? I wouldn't be putting my money on them to get promoted What goes round .... plus they probably didn't want to play Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, David Brent said: But it's only a problem because they were playing Birmingham. Huddersfield aren't concerned with the opposition, that's none of their business. And whoever goes down, it will be because they didn't get enough points in a 46 game season Disagree. If you go down by a point and you played 46 games with the other team desperate to win while the team that stays up play 45 then the issue is clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, CotswoldRed said: The rules don't say they have earned the right. The rules say they are obliged to play a full strength side. Whatever that means. It's such a BS rule, how do the football league define a teams strongest team? They can't monitor fitness, tactics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, hodge said: It's such a BS rule, how do the football league define a teams strongest team? They can't monitor fitness, tactics etc. Not easy to define exactly what a full strength side is BUT it's easy to define what it isn't, and Huddersfield were definitely the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, reddoh said: As we seemed to field a weakened side for a few months, I don't think we can comment. No, we were fielding a decent side and getting shit results. That was why it was all so puzzling and annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: No, we were fielding a decent side and getting shit results. That was why it was all so puzzling and annoying I think you will find Women puzzling and annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, reddoh said: I think you will find Women puzzling and annoying. Found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, hodge said: It's such a BS rule, how do the football league define a teams strongest team? They can't monitor fitness, tactics etc. For half this season our head coach didn't know our strongest team, so how the heck would the Football League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said: Disagree. If you go down by a point and you played 46 games with the other team desperate to win while the team that stays up play 45 then the issue is clear. Luck of the draw. Huddersfield can field whatever team they want. Why should the position of an opposition mean anything to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said: Not easy to define exactly what a full strength side is BUT it's easy to define what it isn't, and Huddersfield were definitely the latter. Its a side that had a combined 200 appearances between them, it wasn't a team of kids. What's the point of a squad if not to be able to use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 2 hours ago, David Brent said: Luck of the draw. Huddersfield can field whatever team they want. Why should the position of an opposition mean anything to them. That's not what the rules say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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