BobBobSuperBob Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, shelts said: He may well be the most talented footballer in years at the Gate but the guy is totally overweight and unfit st this level . Why was he allowed to be signed in the summer.....did no one see the timber? Not sure if its fitness - or fitness alone - @Davefevs has summed it up for me above - thinks he's too good for us and the players around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Not sure if its fitness - or fitness alone - @Davefevs has summed it up for me above - thinks he's too good for us and the players around him The ultimate big time Charley . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 He seems like a `QPR` sort of player if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Pack MOTM for me. Was he also announced as MOTM too. Adams caused our two CBs no end of problems. Funny old performance. Wound like to put it down to us not at 100% as safe already. But in fairness we've seen performances like that at points all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Let's face it, if Tomlin had the consistency, attitude and work rate to match his undoubted talent, then he wouldn't be playing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 To my mind he strikes me as actually a bit insecure. I suspect he needs lots of love to get the best out of him and the moment he feels he's not the top man he can't produce. Not really sure what the answer is as we're probably a better team (emphasis on team) without him unless he's on top form. Whatever happens I wonder if there's anybody at this level who would pay him what we are at the moment, even if we wanted to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, steveybadger said: To my mind he strikes me as actually a bit insecure. I suspect he needs lots of love to get the best out of him and the moment he feels he's not the top man he can't produce. Not really sure what the answer is as we're probably a better team (emphasis on team) without him unless he's on top form. Whatever happens I wonder if there's anybody at this level who would pay him what we are at the moment, even if we wanted to sell? Agree. Think it is a man management problem, and at that we are poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlborough Red Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Thought he created more in his limited time on the pitch today then anybody else had done previously. Always looking for the ball and trying different and surprising options. Couple today were outstanding cross field balls that released our wide players.Sometime they come off , sometimes they don't. Will be very sad to see him leave , a game changer and a valuable squad plyer for me. Needs firm management and encouragement that perhaps he 's not got from LJ this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, Marlborough Red said: Thought he created more in his limited time on the pitch today then anybody else had done previously. Always looking for the ball and trying different and surprising options. Couple today were outstanding cross field balls that released our wide players.Sometime they come off , sometimes they don't. Will be very sad to see him leave , a game changer and a valuable squad plyer for me. Needs firm management and encouragement that perhaps he 's not got from LJ this season. Agree with first para - though I'd say it's not his passing that's an issue it's his non-passing , classic example on one occasion when he beat his marker, to be confronted by two Birmingham defenders - play a give and go ? ....,.., pass ? ...... no .... let's try and beat both of them and lose the ball ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 37 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Agree. Think it is a man management problem, and at that we are poor Is Eddie Howe a poor man manager as well then? Plus various others? If it was just a one off I'd be inclined to agree with you, but LJ wouldn't be the first manager to struggle to accommodate Tomlin and I'd hazard a guess that he won't be the last either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Is Eddie Howe a poor man manager as well then? Plus various others? If it was just a one off I'd be inclined to agree with you, but LJ wouldn't be the first manager to struggle to accommodate Tomlin and I'd hazard a guess that he won't be the last either In which case it was hubris to sign him, we knew his record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, RumRed said: In which case it was hubris to sign him, we knew his record. Exactly. LJ obviously thought he could handle him, much in the same way that he thought he could take City into Europe in five years, that he only needed three transfer windows, and Bryan is a Premiership left back, etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Ivorguy said: Agree. Think it is a man management problem, and at that we are poor But to be fair, somebody did get the best out if him last year. A tricky one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 It sums it up when we give a donkey Like Pack man of the match, it's always been the same at AG, the fans wouldn't know a big of talent if it smacked them in the eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Slagging off Tomlin for his 25 minute cameo while the hopeless Joe Bryan gets away scot free, the idiocy of City fans never fail to amaze me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartcliffe red Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Its like bryan is uncrtiticisable if that is a word......has been shocking pretty much all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, harrys said: Slagging off Tomlin for his 25 minute cameo while the hopeless Joe Bryan gets away scot free, the idiocy of City fans never fail to amaze me 2 minutes ago, Hartcliffe red said: Its like bryan is uncrtiticisable if that is a word......has been shocking pretty much all season There's a thread on JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Not really relevant to the thread but I see a lot of comments about his weight. If you see him shirtless on other players social media he's actually in good shape. He mentioned in an interview a few months back about his body shape making him look "fat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 22 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: Sums up Bristol City some were singing his name when he come on. he's done nothing the entire year and is probably the worst transfer in the history of the club when you consider wages and the fee not to mention all the fuss to get him here. Selfish and got to be about him. Brilliant last season and I wanted him here but he's shown his true colours and if we can get rid it won't be soon enough. An excellent free-kick v Villa to ensure 3 points. A text-book, inch perfect assist for Marlon v Leeds (looks simple, but how many times do pro players mess the simple up?) A clever, self-less assist for Tammy at Barnsley A brilliant individual run and unselfish put-it-on-a-plate for Luke Freeman (even he couldn't miss) at Fulham. Hit the bar v Derby with a brilliant volley/technique. Plus a (pointless) rabona! v Derby. An outrageous, and high-risk, quickly taken free-kick just outside our box in the 89th minute after 89 minutes of fruitless toil v Blackburn, catching their defence off-balance as they retreated quickly, setting Wilbs away to score late winner with a deflected shot. 19 times out of 20 that would not have come off but this was a 1/20 moment.... A brilliant dribble and (deflected, I think, but anyway) shot to score v Hull. Gave a bored 16k half an hour of something-worth-watching, along with Tammy, when brought on, and a goal to cheer. The penalty at home v Ipswich was important. Won a pen and converted it home v Weds. First goal at home v Huddersfield. So, not quite "done nothing" but certainly, nowhere near enough for a record signing and the wages, etc. Massive disappointment and we can do without anymore disruption (if that's what has gone on) or "preciousness" next season. First and foremost, we need a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Starting the season like he had done nothing but eat pies over the summer didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 23 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: He seems like a `QPR` sort of player if you know what I mean. Steady on , no one's saying he's crap . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 On a par with JET plenty of talent but fails to do it on a regular basis. Yet another move for him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 On 7 May 2017 at 16:16, Simon79 said: Personally thought it was the correct substitution. We were crying out for someone who can make something happen, Tomlin is the obvious answer. Thought he tried to get on the ball as much as he could. It just didn't happen for him. Players like Tomlin do frustrate at times, but you have to accept their inadequacy's as well as their sheer brilliance at times. COYR Agree with this. To be fair to Tomlin, if Brownhill had scored from Tomlin's pass as he should have done, we'd be talking about his assist having relegated Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Tomlin is quality. It should be possible to manage him for the good of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Tomlin played some razor sharp, perfectly weighted passes one minute, then the next gave the ball away easily. Same as all the team, bar Flinty and Korey, just consistently, inconsistent. Going absolutely nowhere with this team/squad unless something major changes with players or management/coaches - or both. Taylor. Struth. Lightweight or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Tomlin is a headache. Put it this way, if we had him on a season long loan and the option to sign him now, how many would take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 On 2017-5-8 at 00:29, BITW said: Not really relevant to the thread but I see a lot of comments about his weight. If you see him shirtless on other players social media he's actually in good shape. He mentioned in an interview a few months back about his body shape making him look "fat". Exactly. He's stocky and barrel-chested rather than flabby. Despite Johnson's famous assertion, he can actually sprint when he wants to. Beat a defender to a 50/50 on Sunday. Like Jet he chooses not to for much of the time. His game is based on watching where the gaps are and trying to exploit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Jack Dawe said: An excellent free-kick v Villa to ensure 3 points. A text-book, inch perfect assist for Marlon v Leeds (looks simple, but how many times do pro players mess the simple up?) A clever, self-less assist for Tammy at Barnsley A brilliant individual run and unselfish put-it-on-a-plate for Luke Freeman (even he couldn't miss) at Fulham. Hit the bar v Derby with a brilliant volley/technique. Plus a (pointless) rabona! v Derby. An outrageous, and high-risk, quickly taken free-kick just outside our box in the 89th minute after 89 minutes of fruitless toil v Blackburn, catching their defence off-balance as they retreated quickly, setting Wilbs away to score late winner with a deflected shot. 19 times out of 20 that would not have come off but this was a 1/20 moment.... A brilliant dribble and (deflected, I think, but anyway) shot to score v Hull. Gave a bored 16k half an hour of something-worth-watching, along with Tammy, when brought on, and a goal to cheer. The penalty at home v Ipswich was important. Won a pen and converted it home v Weds. First goal at home v Huddersfield. So, not quite "done nothing" but certainly, nowhere near enough for a record signing and the wages, etc. Massive disappointment and we can do without anymore disruption (if that's what has gone on) or "preciousness" next season. First and foremost, we need a team. His pass for Tammys goal away at Wolves was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: His pass for Tammys goal away at Wolves was amazing. Another to the list. Really, he and Tammy together, could/should've been amongst our best and most watchable forward pairings we have ever had. What a waste. Whoever is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Just now, Jack Dawe said: Another to the list. Really, he and Tammy together, could/should've been amongst our best and most watchable forward pairings we have ever had. What a waste. Whoever is to blame. Obviously Tomlin? He has under performed big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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