cityred exile Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Last season final table finish ! Reading 17th , Bristol City18th , Huddersfield19th , Fulham 20th , WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT ? Maybe our turn next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 They've all got one thing common apart from us. A decent manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: They've all got one thing common apart from us. A decent manager ....BOO! cheap shot after a season of extremes and understandably high emotions .... BUT .. We go with what we have again next season and we need to start with optimism, to start off on a downer will do no one any good except for helping rival clubs playing against us... Lets not start off doing half of their jobs for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 You never know, right tactics and more importantly in my opinion team spirit - we can do it LJ has a extra year experience now - let's give him a clean slate from the start of next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, cityred exile said: Last season final table finish ! Reading 17th , Bristol City18th , Huddersfield19th , Fulham 20th , WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT ? Maybe our turn next season Will it be the one who might not be the Championship next season..? Then again, all 4 could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I may be wrong, but don't the other three have foreign managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langford Red Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: They've all got one thing common apart from us. A decent manager He is learning Once you lose the changing room It is VERY VERY difficult to regain it He did regain it, and hopefully he has learnt from it COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, Bicester Red said: He is learning Once you lose the changing room It is VERY VERY difficult to regain it He did regain it, and hopefully he has learnt from it COYR Fair play, I've doubted LJ and been really p1ssed off with him He deserves a fresh start - if it's an awful start he should go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, Bicester Red said: He is learning Once you lose the changing room It is VERY VERY difficult to regain it He did regain it, and hopefully he has learnt from it COYR Was there ever any evidence he lost it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, Bicester Red said: He is learning Once you lose the changing room It is VERY VERY difficult to regain it He did regain it, and hopefully he has learnt from it COYR One thing I get fed up of hearing is this 'fake news' he lost the dressing room. What does this mean? A player or two had the hump he's not selected ? He's 'lost the dressing room' it's hollow words. LJ and the club have made mistakes for sure, and I look forward to hearing about what will take place to ensure we are bouncing around the bottom of the table next season, but 'losing dressing rooms' where does this come from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Was there ever any evidence he lost it? A few of the performances I'd say, not least the Preston game in which Johnson himself admitted the players weren't putting in 100% effort. Quite a startling admission when you think about it seeing as though he'd been in charge for over a year by that point. He also stated there were cliques within the squad and obviously was critical of various players throughout the season. I don't know about the term 'losing the dressing room' but I think you'd have to be very naive to think it's been a happy one this season. The fault of that ultimately lies with the head coach whose principle job is to create a winning environment in which players are happy and give their all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: A few of the performances I'd say, not least the Preston game in which Johnson himself admitted the players weren't putting in 100% effort. Quite a startling admission when you think about it seeing as though he'd been in charge for over a year by that point. He also stated there were cliques within the squad and obviously was critical of various players throughout the season. I don't know about the term 'losing the dressing room' but I think you'd have to be very naive to think it's been a happy one this season. The fault of that ultimately lies with the head coach whose principle job is to create a winning environment in which players are happy and give their all. Seemed to do ok over the last 15 games. And the first 15 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 46 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: A few of the performances I'd say, not least the Preston game in which Johnson himself admitted the players weren't putting in 100% effort. Quite a startling admission when you think about it seeing as though he'd been in charge for over a year by that point. He also stated there were cliques within the squad and obviously was critical of various players throughout the season. I don't know about the term 'losing the dressing room' but I think you'd have to be very naive to think it's been a happy one this season. The fault of that ultimately lies with the head coach whose principle job is to create a winning environment in which players are happy and give their all. Whether or not my manager is capable, if I want to be a **** at work, I could be. I wasn't at the PNE game but I've been to 23 at AG and I haven't seen much to suggest a team not playing for the manager. Fulham is the only time that I can recall coming away thinking he might have lost the support of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 5 hours ago, WhistleHappy said: ....BOO! cheap shot after a season of extremes and understandably high emotions .... BUT .. We go with what we have again next season and we need to start with optimism, to start off on a downer will do no one any good except for helping rival clubs playing against us... Lets not start off doing half of their jobs for them. It was a joke mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: It was a joke mate ....forgive me, .. I've not been well .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, WhistleHappy said: ....forgive me, .. I've not been well .. I 've never been well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, steviestevieneville said: I 've never been well Sicko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 9 hours ago, cityred exile said: Last season final table finish ! Reading 17th , Bristol City18th , Huddersfield19th , Fulham 20th , WHO IS THE ODD ONE OUT ? Maybe our turn next season I've got everything crossed as well but without Tammy's goals where are we? I know where we would have been last season and it concerns the hell out of me for the next. We got lucky with him last season and it's unlikely a loan signing will be as successful again. Goals will need to come from elsewhere, so an important transfer window indeed. I hope Taylor can score a few early in the season to get his confidence up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Seemed to do ok over the last 15 games. And the first 15 games. That's ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: That's ok then. Yes, it was in the end. Hopefully there will be more of that and less of the middle third of the season next time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, Bar BS3 said: Yes, it was in the end. Hopefully there will be more of that and less of the middle third of the season next time around. Lets hope so. I wont hold my breath though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, Big Red Rich said: Lets hope so. I wont hold my breath though.... It wouldn't be advisable. It's only May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 29 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: That's ok then. If only it were that good. The reality of course is that in over half of the season (26 games) we managed 3 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Tiree said: When will this Kid ever stop? Last season was Lj's first full one with us, having kept us up the previous year by bonding the dressing room. Don't be absurd. If there's one thing SC can never be criticised for it's the wonderful spirit he engendered in his squad. City were rightly famed for a unified and contented squad under him and it was clear for all to see. Those friendships and a determination to give 100% for their respected manager and mentor remained intact even when the team was struggling badly for results. Many players were devastated when Cotts. left according to the father of one of the squad. Lots of rumours of discontent, fallouts, and cliques under LJ, but whatever the truth of those, it's been obvious on a number of occasions that he has a very long way to go before even starting to compare his ability to bond his squad compared to that of SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Ah well, it was a nice try at some positivity by the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Side thought; two of the three have the same manager as back then, while the other (Stam) was linked with Reading as early as late May due to them not having a full time manager. I'm accepting rather than 'happy' that LJ is still our head coach, but I do acknowledge that he's done what is essentially the bare, bare minimum of keeping us in this league, and the owner backs him completely, so there is no choice but to hope he's learnt and we can actually progress next season, as this year we tred water in terms of what we achieved in my eyes (similar league position/points). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Kingswood Robin said: I've got everything crossed as well but without Tammy's goals where are we? I know where we would have been last season and it concerns the hell out of me for the next. We got lucky with him last season and it's unlikely a loan signing will be as successful again. Goals will need to come from elsewhere, so an important transfer window indeed. I hope Taylor can score a few early in the season to get his confidence up. We said the same a year ago when we thought Kodjia might leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 As far as I am concerned LJ is in credit and has a clean slate in my view. Make no mistake he is going nowhere especially after pulling it around with that end of season run and deserves our full support. I am very much looking forward to this transfer window with much anticipation and recruitment and improvements are paramount given that this league has been made even more competitive with the likes of Sunderland, Middlesbrough & Sheff Utd. I for one am really optimistic for next season. Exciting times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 37 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Don't be absurd. If there's one thing SC can never be criticised for it's the wonderful spirit he engendered in his squad. City were rightly famed for a unified and contented squad under him and it was clear for all to see. Those friendships and a determination to give 100% for their respected manager and mentor remained intact even when the team was struggling badly for results. Many players were devastated when Cotts. left according to the father of one of the squad. Lots of rumours of discontent, fallouts, and cliques under LJ, but whatever the truth of those, it's been obvious on a number of occasions that he has a very long way to go before even starting to compare his ability to bond his squad compared to that of SC. Beat me too it - One thing SCs squad had overflowing was a unique team spirit and bond , of the like that I've only ever seen once before (In 76 promotion side , tho with TCs side not far behind) The usual nonsense from @Tiree 'kept us up. ......by bonding the dressing room' Laughable & deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Beat me too it - One thing SCs squad had overflowing was a unique team spirit and bond , of the like that I've only ever seen once before (In 76 promotion side , tho with TCs side not far behind) The usual nonsense from @Tiree 'kept us up. ......by bonding the dressing room' Laughable & deluded The GJ promotion team had it in spades. How often did we nick a win through sheer determination and teamwork ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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