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Just now, YorkshireSection said:

is this a player, team or federation decision though, if it's the latter I'd be rather worried about the implications of not obeying orders so to speak, probably get their feet chopping off!

If it's a player or team decision then say goodbye to your chance of playing in Europe.

Ihttp://www.news.com.au/sport/football/saudi-arabian-players-fail-to-acknowledge-minutes-silence/news-story/4b854913e4b4be744dafb0041ef51eaa

Read the article in the link above.

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This quote in the article- they should still have acknowledged it however IMO.

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Most of the Saudi Arabian side are Muslim and the custom of pausing for a moments silence to honour the dead is not common under Islam. Instead, it is custom to pray for the dead, give to charity on their behalf and remember.

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It's a strange one.

Why would the Saudis acknowledge a terror attack in the UK, when we (as in the UK) don't have a minutes silence when a car bomb goes off in Syria and scores are killed?

That said, the acknowledgement looks to have been sanctioned so it should have been respected. Surprised they didn't all get booked.

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30 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Do you scour the Internet looking for things to disgusted by ?

You should be in our whatsapp group, Major

Super puts loads in there he's 'stumbled upon' that we're all disgusted by. Quite a knack

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9 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

It's a strange one.

Why would the Saudis acknowledge a terror attack in the UK, when we (as in the UK) don't have a minutes silence when a car bomb goes off in Syria and scores are killed?

That said, the acknowledgement looks to have been sanctioned so it should have been respected. Surprised they didn't all get booked.

Weren't two Australians killed? Prob why they had the silence.

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47 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

I would be banned if I was to comment exactly how I feel about stuff like this.

This forum has an excellent light touch approach to moderation compared to others that I frequent.  This is the football forum so if it strays away from that it will be moved to Non-Football. But it is allowed to stray.

The days of excessive moderation and regular bans on here must be well over five years' ago.  Something changed for the better.

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35 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

It's a strange one.

Why would the Saudis acknowledge a terror attack in the UK, when we (as in the UK) don't have a minutes silence when a car bomb goes off in Syria and scores are killed?

That said, the acknowledgement looks to have been sanctioned so it should have been respected. Surprised they didn't all get booked.

Big difference between not HAVING a minutes silence and choosing to not respectfully observe one that's already been organised. 

Surely the teams were made aware prior to its commencement that it was scheduled?

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Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22?

will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday?

how about one for all though the taliban recently killed?

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Just now, Monkeh said:

Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22?

will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday?

how about one for all though the taliban recently killed?

Why would we?

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Well on the one hand, they probably had no idea about such a custom and were confused by the whole thing. Theres no point getting angry and wound up about it when it almost certainly wasn't intended to be malicious or provocative.

On the other hand, when in Rome..... They should have had the common sense to follow the Aussies lead and line up respectfully. A bit ignorant on their behalf but hardly worth getting all offended about.

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3 hours ago, Monkeh said:

Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22?

will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday?

how about one for all though the taliban recently killed?

no but if we were playing in iran, or Saudi Arabia and they were having a minutes silence im sure our players would respect it .

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3 hours ago, Monkeh said:

Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22?

will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday?

how about one for all though the taliban recently killed?

Missing the point Monkeh - it's the fact that they didn't observe an organised silence, the question isn't about whether there should have been one or not. You would never, ever, see the England team refuse to participate in an organised silence. 

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1 hour ago, Wanderingred said:

Well on the one hand, they probably had no idea about such a custom and were confused by the whole thing. Theres no point getting angry and wound up about it when it almost certainly wasn't intended to be malicious or provocative.

On the other hand, when in Rome..... They should have had the common sense to follow the Aussies lead and line up respectfully. A bit ignorant on their behalf but hardly worth getting all offended about.

They don't organise these things without informing the players/management, surely?

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8 hours ago, Wanderingred said:

Well on the one hand, they probably had no idea about such a custom and were confused by the whole thing. Theres no point getting angry and wound up about it when it almost certainly wasn't intended to be malicious or provocative.

On the other hand, when in Rome..... They should have had the common sense to follow the Aussies lead and line up respectfully. A bit ignorant on their behalf but hardly worth getting all offended about.

My bold: exactly this. One of the players knew what was going on why didn't the others.

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17 hours ago, Super said:

Weren't two Australians killed? Prob why they had the silence.

Yes that was the reason for it. Has been a long line with there national team creating headlines. Not long ago they refused to get onto the team coach as the driver was female. They have also stood to examples on 1 min silence so it not an example of beliefs.   

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I don't care if it's not in their culture it's about respect which is what the Australian players were paying to their dead. They should have stood in silence, or if they really couldn't manage to do this, stayed in the changing rooms until kick off. They weren't being asked to do anything offensive to their culture or religion. 

'When in Rome' as someone else mentions. It's not in many people's culture to have to cover themselves up, wear headscarves etc but people do when visiting their country and similar, it's about respect and intergration, you shouldn't  have it one way and not the other.

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16 hours ago, Monkeh said:

Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22?

will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday?

how about one for all though the taliban recently killed?

Or when 2000 plus people died in the crush at Mecca the same year.

Or 111 people killed by the crane collapse also in Mecca in 2015

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12 hours ago, ciderbeans said:

How rude! Especially after Theresa May sold them 4.1 billion pounds worth of weapons for their terrorist friends...

utterly disgraceful tbf and footballs world governing body should punish them for clear lack of disrespect

I don't think they lack "disrespect" at all!! 

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5 minutes ago, Super said:

Yep no minute silence for them shocking!

My point was that it game the Muslim Saudi team every reason to have just acknowledged to minutes silence, even if it's not in their culture (I fcuking hate that excuse!) to respect the innocent who died. 

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37 minutes ago, RedM said:

I don't care if it's not in their culture it's about respect which is what the Australian players were paying to their dead. They should have stood in silence, or if they really couldn't manage to do this, stayed in the changing rooms until kick off. They weren't being asked to do anything offensive to their culture or religion. 

'When in Rome' as someone else mentions. It's not in many people's culture to have to cover themselves up, wear headscarves etc but people do when visiting their country and similar, it's about respect and intergration, you shouldn't  have it one way and not the other.

In their defense they weren't in Rome.

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Saudis should have just respectfully stood there quietly, even if they didn't agree with it. Why they feel the need to constantly make these big political statements.

Same as James McClean of WBA. You don't agree with the English national anthem, fine, but stand there silently an don't sing. Why he feels the need to turn his back etc.

Unfortunately this act by the Saudis has done nothing to improve the already poor public perception of Muslims right now.

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the Saudis have shown themselves up. Fair play, at least, to the one lad who did observe it. As for the others, shame on them. Dignity, decorum and respect go a long way in the world, qualities that seem sadly lacking in Saudi. 

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16 hours ago, ciderbeans said:

How rude! Especially after Theresa May sold them 4.1 billion pounds worth of weapons for their terrorist friends...

utterly disgraceful tbf and footballs world governing body should punish them for clear lack of disrespect

Could've been an excellent deal for us and the rest of the World though ....

...IF we'd arranged RAF 'special deliveries' of  'em ! 

( :devil:)

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It's completely out of order.

Indicating that they don't do things like that in their own country will, however, prove bloody useful when you want to wear shorts and take your wife out on the piss on a trip to Saudi.  

Imagine things the other way around. Floggings? 

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