Super Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Pretty poor show by them whilst having a minute silence for the London attacks. Doubt many will be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: Pretty poor show by them whilst having a minute silence for the London attacks. Doubt many will be surprised. Do you scour the Internet looking for things to disgusted by ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Super said: Pretty poor show by them whilst having a minute silence for the London attacks. Doubt many will be surprised. I would be banned if I was to comment exactly how I feel about stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 is this a player, team or federation decision though, if it's the latter I'd be rather worried about the implications of not obeying orders so to speak, probably get their feet chopping off! If it's a player or team decision then say goodbye to your chance of playing in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I personally think there's been an understanding. From what I've heard the minutes silence isn't something that happens in their culture. Apparently they did respect the silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, YorkshireSection said: is this a player, team or federation decision though, if it's the latter I'd be rather worried about the implications of not obeying orders so to speak, probably get their feet chopping off! If it's a player or team decision then say goodbye to your chance of playing in Europe. Ihttp://www.news.com.au/sport/football/saudi-arabian-players-fail-to-acknowledge-minutes-silence/news-story/4b854913e4b4be744dafb0041ef51eaa Read the article in the link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Do you scour the Internet looking for things to disgusted by ? Yep. Beats reading your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 This quote in the article- they should still have acknowledged it however IMO. Quote Most of the Saudi Arabian side are Muslim and the custom of pausing for a moments silence to honour the dead is not common under Islam. Instead, it is custom to pray for the dead, give to charity on their behalf and remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 It's a strange one. Why would the Saudis acknowledge a terror attack in the UK, when we (as in the UK) don't have a minutes silence when a car bomb goes off in Syria and scores are killed? That said, the acknowledgement looks to have been sanctioned so it should have been respected. Surprised they didn't all get booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Super said: Yep. Beats reading your posts. You obviously read this one in order to reply . Slow day is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Do you scour the Internet looking for things to disgusted by ? You should be in our whatsapp group, Major Super puts loads in there he's 'stumbled upon' that we're all disgusted by. Quite a knack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: It's a strange one. Why would the Saudis acknowledge a terror attack in the UK, when we (as in the UK) don't have a minutes silence when a car bomb goes off in Syria and scores are killed? That said, the acknowledgement looks to have been sanctioned so it should have been respected. Surprised they didn't all get booked. Weren't two Australians killed? Prob why they had the silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 India and Pakistan, and their fans, managed it in the cricket the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 47 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: I would be banned if I was to comment exactly how I feel about stuff like this. This forum has an excellent light touch approach to moderation compared to others that I frequent. This is the football forum so if it strays away from that it will be moved to Non-Football. But it is allowed to stray. The days of excessive moderation and regular bans on here must be well over five years' ago. Something changed for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: It's a strange one. Why would the Saudis acknowledge a terror attack in the UK, when we (as in the UK) don't have a minutes silence when a car bomb goes off in Syria and scores are killed? That said, the acknowledgement looks to have been sanctioned so it should have been respected. Surprised they didn't all get booked. Big difference between not HAVING a minutes silence and choosing to not respectfully observe one that's already been organised. Surely the teams were made aware prior to its commencement that it was scheduled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22? will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday? how about one for all though the taliban recently killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Monkeh said: Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22? will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday? how about one for all though the taliban recently killed? Why would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Super said: Why would we? Why would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Monkeh said: Why would they? 2 Australians were killed which is why they did it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Well on the one hand, they probably had no idea about such a custom and were confused by the whole thing. Theres no point getting angry and wound up about it when it almost certainly wasn't intended to be malicious or provocative. On the other hand, when in Rome..... They should have had the common sense to follow the Aussies lead and line up respectfully. A bit ignorant on their behalf but hardly worth getting all offended about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Christ, given what the Saudis get up to, disrespecting a minute's silence is the least of your worries. One of the worst human rights abusing countries in the world, and sickening the way our government grovels to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: Why would they? Excellent point. The world only cares when the dead are western people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 You can say yeah this and that, it isn't their way etc etc .. but I reckon it looks piss poor whilst the other team is all stood still. Really poor from the Saudis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 How rude! Especially after Theresa May sold them 4.1 billion pounds worth of weapons for their terrorist friends... utterly disgraceful tbf and footballs world governing body should punish them for clear lack of disrespect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star of a gunner Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Monkeh said: Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22? will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday? how about one for all though the taliban recently killed? no but if we were playing in iran, or Saudi Arabia and they were having a minutes silence im sure our players would respect it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Monkeh said: Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22? will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday? how about one for all though the taliban recently killed? Missing the point Monkeh - it's the fact that they didn't observe an organised silence, the question isn't about whether there should have been one or not. You would never, ever, see the England team refuse to participate in an organised silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Wanderingred said: Well on the one hand, they probably had no idea about such a custom and were confused by the whole thing. Theres no point getting angry and wound up about it when it almost certainly wasn't intended to be malicious or provocative. On the other hand, when in Rome..... They should have had the common sense to follow the Aussies lead and line up respectfully. A bit ignorant on their behalf but hardly worth getting all offended about. They don't organise these things without informing the players/management, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: They don't organise these things without informing the players/management, surely? Their management chose not to join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Wanderingred said: Well on the one hand, they probably had no idea about such a custom and were confused by the whole thing. Theres no point getting angry and wound up about it when it almost certainly wasn't intended to be malicious or provocative. On the other hand, when in Rome..... They should have had the common sense to follow the Aussies lead and line up respectfully. A bit ignorant on their behalf but hardly worth getting all offended about. My bold: exactly this. One of the players knew what was going on why didn't the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirlieBeachRed Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Super said: Weren't two Australians killed? Prob why they had the silence. Yes that was the reason for it. Has been a long line with there national team creating headlines. Not long ago they refused to get onto the team coach as the driver was female. They have also stood to examples on 1 min silence so it not an example of beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I don't care if it's not in their culture it's about respect which is what the Australian players were paying to their dead. They should have stood in silence, or if they really couldn't manage to do this, stayed in the changing rooms until kick off. They weren't being asked to do anything offensive to their culture or religion. 'When in Rome' as someone else mentions. It's not in many people's culture to have to cover themselves up, wear headscarves etc but people do when visiting their country and similar, it's about respect and intergration, you shouldn't have it one way and not the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Super said: Weren't two Australians killed? Prob why they had the silence. Weren't 3 muslims...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 16 hours ago, Monkeh said: Did we have one in August 2015 when an attacker bombed a mosque in Saudi killing 22? will there be one for the Iranians killed yesterday? how about one for all though the taliban recently killed? Or when 2000 plus people died in the crush at Mecca the same year. Or 111 people killed by the crane collapse also in Mecca in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 12 hours ago, ciderbeans said: How rude! Especially after Theresa May sold them 4.1 billion pounds worth of weapons for their terrorist friends... utterly disgraceful tbf and footballs world governing body should punish them for clear lack of disrespect I don't think they lack "disrespect" at all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Weren't 3 muslims...?! Yep no minute silence for them shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Super said: Yep no minute silence for them shocking! My point was that it game the Muslim Saudi team every reason to have just acknowledged to minutes silence, even if it's not in their culture (I fcuking hate that excuse!) to respect the innocent who died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, RedM said: I don't care if it's not in their culture it's about respect which is what the Australian players were paying to their dead. They should have stood in silence, or if they really couldn't manage to do this, stayed in the changing rooms until kick off. They weren't being asked to do anything offensive to their culture or religion. 'When in Rome' as someone else mentions. It's not in many people's culture to have to cover themselves up, wear headscarves etc but people do when visiting their country and similar, it's about respect and intergration, you shouldn't have it one way and not the other. In their defense they weren't in Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARJ Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Saudis should have just respectfully stood there quietly, even if they didn't agree with it. Why they feel the need to constantly make these big political statements. Same as James McClean of WBA. You don't agree with the English national anthem, fine, but stand there silently an don't sing. Why he feels the need to turn his back etc. Unfortunately this act by the Saudis has done nothing to improve the already poor public perception of Muslims right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 the Saudis have shown themselves up. Fair play, at least, to the one lad who did observe it. As for the others, shame on them. Dignity, decorum and respect go a long way in the world, qualities that seem sadly lacking in Saudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 16 hours ago, ciderbeans said: How rude! Especially after Theresa May sold them 4.1 billion pounds worth of weapons for their terrorist friends... utterly disgraceful tbf and footballs world governing body should punish them for clear lack of disrespect Could've been an excellent deal for us and the rest of the World though .... ...IF we'd arranged RAF 'special deliveries' of 'em ! ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 hours ago, SARJ said: Unfortunately this act by the Saudis has done nothing to improve the already poor public perception of Muslims right now. Poor public perception of Muslims? Who has that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 2017-6-8 at 14:50, Major Isewater said: You obviously read this one in order to reply . Slow day is it ? 'ark at she! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 It's completely out of order. Indicating that they don't do things like that in their own country will, however, prove bloody useful when you want to wear shorts and take your wife out on the piss on a trip to Saudi. Imagine things the other way around. Floggings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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