ralphindevon Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, TomF said: 2 down when could have been 2 up. Might be cheating ***** but that’s why they’re #1 True, we could be two up. It was easier when we just got thumped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Frustrating result, but another intriguing test match. Just such a shame it’s behind a paywall as it’s such a great advert for the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Smith, player of the match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, TomF said: 2 down when could have been 2 up. Might be cheating ***** but that’s why they’re #1 We should have won the 1st test but despite Stokes heroics it would have been daylight robbery if we'd won this one. While some got out to decent balls 2nd innings there are at least 7 players who have to take a long look at their performance in the 1st innings, and wonder how a man on one leg helps to gain another 15 runs for the Aussies. What are the odds on an Ozwash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Cummins doubling-down. What a *****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Cummins doubling-down. What a *****. I take back what I said about him before. A complete knob he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Cummins doubling-down. What a *****. Yep. They get off on it. He gets painted as a Saint but he’s as much of a * as the best of them. Seen it first hand during the World Cup here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Cummins doubling-down. What a *****. It’s what they do. They think the rules apply to the other sides not them but bleat like **** if you do the same thing. Obnoxious team, always have been, always will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Just hoping that Bairstow is up for it in his role as wicketkeeper in the next 3 tests, Australia will be devastated if they are given out the same way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Headingley Squad ; Ben Stokes (Durham) Captain Moeen Ali (Warwickshire) James Anderson (Lancashire) Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire) Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire) Harry Brook (Yorkshire) Zak Crawley (Kent) Ben Duckett (Nottinghamshire) Dan Lawrence (Essex) Ollie Pope (Surrey) Ollie Robinson (Sussex) Joe Root (Yorkshire) Josh Tongue (Worcestershire) Chris Woakes (Warwickshire) Mark Wood (Durham) I would drop Robinson and bring in Wood. I would like Moheen in (if 100% finger fit) , but if Stokes isn't comfortable doing the full job I'm not sure how unless we drop a batter. Unless Pope is feeling his injury I don't see the batting being messed with. Just needs an injection of common sense. Stokes was smashing 6's, but was happy to leave some and he was timing it reasonably well. Robinson was thrashing at everything with no idea or not ever getting his eye in. His dismissal was one of the most frustrating this Test, and there were a few choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Midred said: Just hoping that Bairstow is up for it in his role as wicketkeeper in the next 3 tests, Australia will be devastated if they are given out the same way! I hope the gloves are taken off him and Foakes comes in, personally. He’s the best keeper in the country and probably the world. To announce an unchanged squad is an insult to be fair. If we’d have batted properly in our first innings and taken the dollies dropped in the first Test, we’d be two up IMO. Plus fitness doubts over Mo and Pope. Edited July 2, 2023 by tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, tin said: I hope the gloves are taken off him and Foakes comes in, personally. If we have to go with 4 seamers it would weaken the batting more than they are willing to, and I know he is decent. I would always play a "real" Keeper, but I don't see them doing it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Just now, 1960maaan said: If we have to go with 4 seamers it would weaken the batting more than they are willing to, and I know he is decent. I would always play a "real" Keeper, but I don't see them doing it now. Keeper is the most important role in Test cricket, IMO. I’ve never seen Foakes even miss a half chance before, let alone make the errors Bairstow has. That would close those fine margins, and he’s a proper bat. My opinion counts for jack shit, but I genuinely think we’d fare better if we looked at the likes of Bohannon, Gubbins and Hain. Assuming Pope isn’t fit, my XI: Duckett, Bairstow/Gubbins, Bohannon, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Ahmed, Wood, Robinson, Broad. I’d be happy to never see Crawley play Test cricket again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Headingley Squad ; Ben Stokes (Durham) Captain Moeen Ali (Warwickshire) James Anderson (Lancashire) Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire) Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire) Harry Brook (Yorkshire) Zak Crawley (Kent) Ben Duckett (Nottinghamshire) Dan Lawrence (Essex) Ollie Pope (Surrey) Ollie Robinson (Sussex) Joe Root (Yorkshire) Josh Tongue (Worcestershire) Chris Woakes (Warwickshire) Mark Wood (Durham) I would drop Robinson and bring in Wood. I would like Moheen in (if 100% finger fit) , but if Stokes isn't comfortable doing the full job I'm not sure how unless we drop a batter. Unless Pope is feeling his injury I don't see the batting being messed with. Just needs an injection of common sense. Stokes was smashing 6's, but was happy to leave some and he was timing it reasonably well. Robinson was thrashing at everything with no idea or not ever getting his eye in. His dismissal was one of the most frustrating this Test, and there were a few choices. Id be tempted to drop Jimmy as well. He has taken 3 wickets in the series so far. Depends on the pitch of course but id be tempted to rest him and bring in Moeen and agree re Robinson/Wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Just now, tin said: Keeper is the most important role in Test cricket, IMO. I’ve never seen Foakes even miss a half chance before, let alone make the errors Bairstow has. That would close those fine margins, and he’s a proper bat. My opinion counts for jack shit, but I genuinely think we’d fare better if we looked at the likes of Bohannon, Gubbins and Hain. Assuming Pope isn’t fit, my XI: Duckett, Bairstow/Gubbins, Bohannon, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Ahmed, Wood, Robinson, Broad. I’d be happy to never see Crawley play Test cricket again. You are dropping Ollie Pope? Bizarre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, tin said: Keeper is the most important role in Test cricket, IMO. I’ve never seen Foakes even miss a half chance before, let alone make the errors Bairstow has. That would close those fine margins, and he’s a proper bat. My opinion counts for jack shit, but I genuinely think we’d fare better if we looked at the likes of Bohannon, Gubbins and Hain. Assuming Pope isn’t fit, my XI: Duckett, Bairstow/Gubbins, Bohannon, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Ahmed, Wood, Robinson, Broad. I’d be happy to never see Crawley play Test cricket again. No way they make all those changes. If Pope is struggling , then you could move Bairstow to 3. If he's that high perhaps then you give the gloves to Foakes. Crawley is a Team fav, playing as they want him to so he's there for the foreseeable . 5 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: You are dropping Ollie Pope? Bizarre TBF he said assuming he isn't fit. Which has to be a consideration . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: You are dropping Ollie Pope? Bizarre He’s bust his shoulder, Tony. I wouldn’t be dropping him if he was 100% fit, but with back-to-back Tests I doubt he’ll be fit in time. It doesn’t matter either way as we’ve bizarrely named an unchanged squad. Edited July 2, 2023 by tin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 No way they`re dropping Bairstow for his home test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, tin said: He’s bust his shoulder, Tony. I wouldn’t be dropping him if he was 100% fit, but with back-to-back Tests I doubt he’ll be fit in time. It doesn’t matter either way as we’ve bizarrely named an unchanged squad. Yeah sorry mate. I misread your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: No way they`re dropping Bairstow for his home test. I don’t think they’ll drop him full stop. Even if he goes on an horrendous run. Look at what they have done with Crawley. Foakes needs to be in this team imho - it’s a travesty he isn’t in, but it seems he’s out unless Bairstow gets injured again. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: No way they`re dropping Bairstow for his home test. If Pope isn't fit you could bat him at 3 and bring in Foakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Super said: If Pope isn't fit you could bat him at 3 and bring in Foakes. That may well be what happens and I wouldn`t be disappointed with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Doubt Jimmy will play. Wood in for him. Only change I expect unless Pope injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 55 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: No way they`re dropping Bairstow for his home test. Would be funny ,though............upset the racists ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Is Bairstow picked because he was in good form last summer and is a favourite partner of Stokes? If so they're not going to move him to no. 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Having made the call on Bairstow keeping they aren't going to change it after 2 games, whether Pope is fit or not. That's why Lawrence is in the squad and Foakes isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Midred said: How long have Sky been deciding what day of the week test matches begin, didn't they always used to start on a Thursday? Yeah, with a rest day on the Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Takes something to wake that lot up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 2, 2023 Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 Completely agree with both these ex pro keepers. The fact he scratched his foot was pivotal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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