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QPR will not take part in £25:00p reciprocal ticket deals

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Guest Ashdangate

Guest Ashdangate

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What do you expect vermin manager, vermin club !!

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26 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Are we taking part?

Good point, well made.

 

tfj

P.S. QPR are 'simply beastly', are they not??

extonsred

extonsred

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4 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

I agree with QPR.  Why would you let another club dictate your pricing model.  Get stuffed Ipswich.

Suggest you read the article.

hoxton casual

hoxton casual

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1 hour ago, Ashdangate said:

What do you expect vermin manager, vermin club !!

A bit harsh. Decent club in my view. Does wonderful work with my son's special school.

 

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Just now, Rednwhiterob said:

I have.  I don't want any other club trying to dictate our pricing policy.  Why would QPR be any different?

You are a free spirit, Sir.

:grr:

 

tfj

reddoh

reddoh

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43 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

I agree with QPR.  Why would you let another club dictate your pricing model.  Get stuffed Ipswich.

@Tomarse can we have a bollocks emojo

onlyotib

onlyotib

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This annoys me. Y don't we just over charge there fans when they visit Ashton gate. If every team in the championship did this to qpr then they would have to act on it

Nibor

Nibor

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2 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said:

I agree with QPR.  Why would you let another club dictate your pricing model.  Get stuffed Ipswich.

Umm... because it helps your own fans that make the effort to support their team away from home?  Seems fairly obvious.

I hope Ipswich offer them QPR no hospitality whatsoever, in their shoes I'd charge their non playing staff, directors and the like a grand each.

allyolly

allyolly

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Seems what Ipswich are proposing is a good way forward to me and I hope city support it. 

But the irony is that Ipswich have always charged amongst the highest away admission prices in the league!

Inactive user

Inactive user

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8 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Umm... because it helps your own fans that make the effort to support their team away from home?  Seems fairly obvious.

I hope Ipswich offer them QPR no hospitality whatsoever, in their shoes I'd charge their non playing staff, directors and the like a grand each.

That's not the point.  It's a club trying to get another club to change their pricing policy.  That can ONLY ever be a decision for each club to make in their own right.  Hope we never bend to such demands.

Bailey is Right

Bailey is Right

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1 hour ago, Lord Northski said:

Anyone know what we charge away fans? Never needed to find out, so haven't a clue TBH

I believe its £27, if the article I read is correct. Pretty down the middle to be honest, theres a few who charge around £20, then leeds ect who charge considerably more!

 

JD

Nibor

Nibor

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28 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

That's not the point.  It's a club trying to get another club to change their pricing policy.  That can ONLY ever be a decision for each club to make in their own right.  Hope we never bend to such demands.

Of course it's the point.  It's a club asking if another club would like to do something that mutually benefits both sets of fans, and the other club saying no, screw our fans.  It's not a demand, it's a reasonable and sensible request.  By turning it down they show contempt for their own fans.  Not really a surprise in QPR's case, twas ever thus.  

 

reddoh

reddoh

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42 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

What because I disagree with you?  

No not at all ,you have the right to express your opinion, I have the right to express mine.

the other thousands on here can judge both of us.

Leveller

Leveller

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15 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Of course it's the point.  It's a club asking if another club would like to do something that mutually benefits both sets of fans, and the other club saying no, screw our fans.  It's not a demand, it's a reasonable and sensible request.  By turning it down they show contempt for their own fans.  Not really a surprise in QPR's case, twas ever thus.  

 

Looking at it more objectively, no doubt each club has management accountants who sit down each year and work out a budget, to determine players wages etc. That would be based on all income including projected match income comprising X seats sold at £Y pounds. 

It might benefit fans of both clubs to sell away tickets cheaper, but if they could afford to do that, it would be a better idea to reduce home fans prices, not away fans surely. That would be a direct benefit to the clubs fans instead of an indirect one.

All the reactions so far seem knee jerk. Consider pricing in the bigger picture. If this deal was extended to all matches (as you may favour) it could have a major budgetary impact. Yes of course we'd all like all tickets to be cheaper, but that's a different and bigger argument.

 

LondonBristolian

LondonBristolian

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54 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

What because I disagree with you?  

Probably because you don't really seem to understand what it is you are agreeing or disagreeing with.

My guess is you posted without reading the article, subsequently read it when challenged and - rather than admit you understood - are trying to defend a position you did not mean to take.

If you had read the article and links within it, you would know that Ipswich are not attempting to dictate to any club what they charge for tickets. All they have done is written to clubs with a suggestion. The people pushing QPR to accept it are QPR's supporters club. You MIGHT feel a supporters' club should not be dictating to the club they support what they charge for tickets - and that's your opinion and you are welcome to it - but to suggest a club is dictating to another club just shows you have either not read the article or not understood it.

Nibor

Nibor

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Just now, Leveller said:

Looking at it more objectively, no doubt each club has management accountants who sit down each year and work out a budget, to determine players wages etc. That would be based on all income including projected match income comprising X seats sold at £Y pounds. 

It might benefit fans of both clubs to sell away tickets cheaper, but if they could afford to do that, it would be a better idea to reduce home fans prices, not away fans surely. That would be a direct benefit to the clubs fans instead of an indirect one.

All the reactions so far seem knee jerk. Consider pricing in the bigger picture. If this deal was extended to all matches (as you may favour) it could have a major budgetary impact. Yes of course we'd all like all tickets to be cheaper, but that's a different and bigger argument.

 

Doing it for away fans makes more sense because they have disproportionately high costs and are often the most loyal. It costs less to do because numbers are lower, you reward those most deserving and you get the best bang for your buck in goodwill. It's a tiny cost in comparison to everything else. 

LondonBristolian

LondonBristolian

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4 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

why is it more expensive to run QPR's ground than everyone else's?:dunno:

To be fair, they have a smaller ground than ours (about 18, 000 I think) and presumably pay London prices for policing, wages and other match day costs. I can understand why they are operating under tougher constraints.

That said, the same is true of Brentford and they charge under £25.

Leveller

Leveller

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6 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Doing it for away fans makes more sense because they have disproportionately high costs and are often the most loyal. It costs less to do because numbers are lower, you reward those most deserving and you get the best bang for your buck in goodwill. It's a tiny cost in comparison to everything else. 

Accepted, but it still leads to the situation where home supporters end up paying more than the opposition fans.

Lord Northski

Lord Northski

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Sounds like we've got it about right, unless they can get an agreement with all the teams to have a flat rate of £20 or similar. We've now got 4000 seats to sell and the away supporters have, more often than not, a long way to travel. 

 

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9 hours ago, Nibor said:

Of course it's the point.  It's a club asking if another club would like to do something that mutually benefits both sets of fans, and the other club saying no, screw our fans.  It's not a demand, it's a reasonable and sensible request.  By turning it down they show contempt for their own fans.  Not really a surprise in QPR's case, twas ever thus.  

 

What if a Prem club who don't rely on ticket sales income urged us to charge a tenner for every game.  Should we agree if our supporters club wanted it?

Clubs must be able to set their own pricing without fetter from other clubs.

Nibor

Nibor

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16 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said:

What if a Prem club who don't rely on ticket sales income urged us to charge a tenner for every game.  Should we agree if our supporters club wanted it?

Clubs must be able to set their own pricing without fetter from other clubs.

Your question makes little sense.  For a Prem club to be able to propose a reciprocal tenner deal for away fans to us we'd have to be in the Prem.  In which case I'd say great, the more away fans at both fixtures the better.

I think you might have misunderstood what's being proposed if you think there's any kind of fetter here.  It's a very simple proposition:  Help our away fans out with the substantial burden they already face getting to a game and we'll do exactly the same for yours.  

Eddie Hitler

Eddie Hitler

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19 hours ago, Leveller said:

Looking at it more objectively, no doubt each club has management accountants who sit down each year and work out a budget, to determine players wages etc. That would be based on all income including projected match income comprising X seats sold at £Y pounds. 

It might benefit fans of both clubs to sell away tickets cheaper, but if they could afford to do that, it would be a better idea to reduce home fans prices, not away fans surely. That would be a direct benefit to the clubs fans instead of an indirect one.

All the reactions so far seem knee jerk. Consider pricing in the bigger picture. If this deal was extended to all matches (as you may favour) it could have a major budgetary impact. Yes of course we'd all like all tickets to be cheaper, but that's a different and bigger argument.

 

Adult tickets are £28 or £34 for away fans according to this link

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/championship/loftus-road-stadium-queens-park-rangers.html#aticket-prices

So £25 is a reasonable drop in the central tickets in the School End, say a thousand people (central block is the higher price) paying £9 less or £9k a game; take this to 23 games and you have £207k down on the season; that's if they're selling them all out.  It's a lot of money for any club outside the Prem's trough of TV money.

So I see QPR's point but as someone who has always been to more away games than home games I'm with the traveling fans. You have a long day traveling, train tickets are extortionate, and you as the away fan are providing a huge chunk of the atmosphere in the ground.  To find yourself paying a set £25 at least caps the pain and also will mean more sell-outs.

I think they should reconsider; though I don't regard them as "vermin". I've always liked QPR as a friendly little team like Fulham sat amongst the loadsamoneys in London.

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